[Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)

Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:43:24 -0400

Just saying that if your domain gets listed on a blacklist it's real hard to
get it off when you are on a dynamic IP. I'm not sure how to get email to
AOL people. If you have a solution for this I'd like to see it?

If you do get blacklisted the way you get off is enter your IP address.
Since you have a dynamic IP address which changes all the time you can't get
it to work. You can try sending them an email but if your domain is
blacklisted they may not receive it unless you can send it from a
non-blacklisted email server.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
[mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Johannes Prost
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:56 PM
To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)

I run the mailserver only for my own company, so I don't have customers to
look for and it's on a dynamic IP.
Regards the behaivior of AOL, I have the same problem, BUT you can deliver
your mail to your ISP's server
which will then relay the message to the receipients address. If you are
interested, I can give you more info
on this. I will do this the off list, because it's not xitami related. Just
post your e-mail.
By the way, you mentioned below you have to de-list my domain. Where ? Why ?

Am 19 Apr 2004 um 17:38 hat Ron Ackerman geschrieben:

> The problem with blacklists is that sometimes legitimate mail servers get
> put on the list. For instance I run 12 domains with Xitami on a dynamic
dns.
> This automatically makes all my domains invalid for sending email to, for
> instance, AOL users. I haven't had any other problems lately but have in
the
> past and just try getting your domain de-listed when you are on a dynamic
> IP. It's we, the General Public, that is suffering because of ISP's
> unwilling to shut down spammers. What happens when you block emails for
your
> customers and someone misses an important message. Are you prepared to
> suffer the legal ramifications? I'm not, so I will leave it to the
customer
> to weed thru the spam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
> [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Johannes Prost
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:07 PM
> To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> Subject: Re: RE: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
>
>
> I would never run a mailserver without pointing to realtime blacklist
> servers. I'm using actually 3
> blacklist's. Here is one of the bigger one's too, Http://ordb.org
>
> Am 18 Apr 2004 um 20:31 hat corwin geschrieben:
>
> > I would like to suggest your get your email servers to looks a 3rd party
> for a db of blocked servers.
> >
> > Last week I turned my email servers to www.spamhaus.org for checking.  I
> can say my smtp traffic is down by almost 80%.  My clients are very happy
> with the results.
> >
> >
> >
> > > There are many different spam stopping software's on the market and
> several
> > > that request you return a coded reply so that your email is accepted
but
> > > more than likely he is able to put in accepted domains so that they
> > > shouldn't happen. I used one for a bit but not on this account and
have
> > > since started using something else. Unfortunately with the amount of
> spam
> > > the flows on the internet people are starting to take desperate
actions
> in
> > > order to stop it. I just returned from being gone for a week and had
> over
> > > 1000 messages with maybe less than 100 actual good messages. The ratio
> of
> > > email to spam is growing at an alarming rate. So don't come done on
> folks
> > > trying to get a handle on their email.
> > >
> > > No need to reply, I get off my soapbox now.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
> > > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Brian {Hamilton
> > > Kelly}
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:01 PM
> > > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone else seen this sort of stupidity when they post articles to
> > > the list?  Quite frankly, I'm not going to play games with idiots who
> > > so badly/sadly misconfigure their anti-spam measures that a post
through
> > > a mailing list becomes a false positive.  Especially, I'm not going to
> > > visit a web-site which might just be a mechanism for harvesting known-
> > > to-be-working e-mail addresses, perhaps even without the knowledge of
> > > this mailing list subscriber.
> > >
> > > If others have had such nonsensical "rejections" then perhaps the list
> > > owner needs to have a quiet little word in the earhole of Erv.
> > >
> > > Forwarded message follows:
> > >
> > > > To: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP
> > > > From: Spam Interceptor <devnull@si20.com>
> > > > Message-Id: <E1BExa3-0004Pc-00@optimus>
> > > > Sender: Spam Interceptor <siweb@solidblue.biz>
> > > > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:42:31 -0400
> > > >
> > > > Dear Brian {Hamilton Kelly},
> > > >
> > > > This is Erv Kosch. I am running Spam Interceptor to block spam email
> and
> > > viruses. Please follow this link to verify that the message you sent
is
> not
> > > spam email.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://si20.com/auth?uid=xxxx&mid=xxx&sid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > [I've obfuscated the details in the above that were personalized to
> > > myself.]
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Your email was intercepted because it got a spam rating of 5.4 and I
> set
> > > Spam Interceptor to ask everyone who sends me a message rated over 2
to
> > > authenticate. When you authenticate I'll receive your email and you'll
> never
> > > have to authenticate for me again, no matter what spam rating your
> emails
> > > get.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Erv Kosch
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > --
> > >    fix (vb.): 1. to paper over, obscure, hide from public view; 2. to
> > >    work around, in a way that produces unintended consequences that
are
> > >    worse than the original problem.  Usage: "Windows ME fixes many of
> the
> > >    shortcomings of Windows 98 SE".
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > Corwin
> > 30+ MAA
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> Johannes
>
>
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