[Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
Johannes Prost
xitami@lists.xitami.org
Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:26:30 -0600
What I have understand so far is, that the reason to get blacklisted is because someone is running a
mailserver as an open relay, or annoys people with his spam and those ones will make a complain to one of the
organisations who run a blacklist server.
You are asking for a solution to send mail to AOL people.
Have a look at http://webmail.arcm.com/kbase/whitelist.html
If it's not working, let me know. You will notice that this is for the Mercury/32 MTA, I run this one here
and it's a great product with a good mailing list.
Regards xitami, I'm just a newbie. I hope to get help if I need some time.
Am 19 Apr 2004 um 22:43 hat Ron Ackerman geschrieben:
> Just saying that if your domain gets listed on a blacklist it's real hard to
> get it off when you are on a dynamic IP. I'm not sure how to get email to
> AOL people. If you have a solution for this I'd like to see it?
>
> If you do get blacklisted the way you get off is enter your IP address.
> Since you have a dynamic IP address which changes all the time you can't get
> it to work. You can try sending them an email but if your domain is
> blacklisted they may not receive it unless you can send it from a
> non-blacklisted email server.
>
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
> [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Johannes Prost
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:56 PM
> To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> Subject: RE: RE: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
>
>
> I run the mailserver only for my own company, so I don't have customers to
> look for and it's on a dynamic IP.
> Regards the behaivior of AOL, I have the same problem, BUT you can deliver
> your mail to your ISP's server
> which will then relay the message to the receipients address. If you are
> interested, I can give you more info
> on this. I will do this the off list, because it's not xitami related. Just
> post your e-mail.
> By the way, you mentioned below you have to de-list my domain. Where ? Why ?
>
>
>
> Am 19 Apr 2004 um 17:38 hat Ron Ackerman geschrieben:
>
> > The problem with blacklists is that sometimes legitimate mail servers get
> > put on the list. For instance I run 12 domains with Xitami on a dynamic
> dns.
> > This automatically makes all my domains invalid for sending email to, for
> > instance, AOL users. I haven't had any other problems lately but have in
> the
> > past and just try getting your domain de-listed when you are on a dynamic
> > IP. It's we, the General Public, that is suffering because of ISP's
> > unwilling to shut down spammers. What happens when you block emails for
> your
> > customers and someone misses an important message. Are you prepared to
> > suffer the legal ramifications? I'm not, so I will leave it to the
> customer
> > to weed thru the spam.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
> > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Johannes Prost
> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:07 PM
> > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
> >
> >
> > I would never run a mailserver without pointing to realtime blacklist
> > servers. I'm using actually 3
> > blacklist's. Here is one of the bigger one's too, Http://ordb.org
> >
> > Am 18 Apr 2004 um 20:31 hat corwin geschrieben:
> >
> > > I would like to suggest your get your email servers to looks a 3rd party
> > for a db of blocked servers.
> > >
> > > Last week I turned my email servers to www.spamhaus.org for checking. I
> > can say my smtp traffic is down by almost 80%. My clients are very happy
> > with the results.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > There are many different spam stopping software's on the market and
> > several
> > > > that request you return a coded reply so that your email is accepted
> but
> > > > more than likely he is able to put in accepted domains so that they
> > > > shouldn't happen. I used one for a bit but not on this account and
> have
> > > > since started using something else. Unfortunately with the amount of
> > spam
> > > > the flows on the internet people are starting to take desperate
> actions
> > in
> > > > order to stop it. I just returned from being gone for a week and had
> > over
> > > > 1000 messages with maybe less than 100 actual good messages. The ratio
> > of
> > > > email to spam is growing at an alarming rate. So don't come done on
> > folks
> > > > trying to get a handle on their email.
> > > >
> > > > No need to reply, I get off my soapbox now.
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
> > > > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Brian {Hamilton
> > > > Kelly}
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:01 PM
> > > > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else seen this sort of stupidity when they post articles to
> > > > the list? Quite frankly, I'm not going to play games with idiots who
> > > > so badly/sadly misconfigure their anti-spam measures that a post
> through
> > > > a mailing list becomes a false positive. Especially, I'm not going to
> > > > visit a web-site which might just be a mechanism for harvesting known-
> > > > to-be-working e-mail addresses, perhaps even without the knowledge of
> > > > this mailing list subscriber.
> > > >
> > > > If others have had such nonsensical "rejections" then perhaps the list
> > > > owner needs to have a quiet little word in the earhole of Erv.
> > > >
> > > > Forwarded message follows:
> > > >
> > > > > To: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP
> > > > > From: Spam Interceptor <devnull@si20.com>
> > > > > Message-Id: <E1BExa3-0004Pc-00@optimus>
> > > > > Sender: Spam Interceptor <siweb@solidblue.biz>
> > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:42:31 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Brian {Hamilton Kelly},
> > > > >
> > > > > This is Erv Kosch. I am running Spam Interceptor to block spam email
> > and
> > > > viruses. Please follow this link to verify that the message you sent
> is
> > not
> > > > spam email.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://si20.com/auth?uid=xxxx&mid=xxx&sid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > [I've obfuscated the details in the above that were personalized to
> > > > myself.]
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your email was intercepted because it got a spam rating of 5.4 and I
> > set
> > > > Spam Interceptor to ask everyone who sends me a message rated over 2
> to
> > > > authenticate. When you authenticate I'll receive your email and you'll
> > never
> > > > have to authenticate for me again, no matter what spam rating your
> > emails
> > > > get.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Erv Kosch
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > fix (vb.): 1. to paper over, obscure, hide from public view; 2. to
> > > > work around, in a way that produces unintended consequences that
> are
> > > > worse than the original problem. Usage: "Windows ME fixes many of
> > the
> > > > shortcomings of Windows 98 SE".
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > Corwin
> > > 30+ MAA
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> > >
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> > Johannes
> >
> >
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> > xitami@pastryworld.ca
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> Johannes
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