[Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)

Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:56:00 -0600

I run the mailserver only for my own company, so I don't have customers to look for and it's on a dynamic IP. 
Regards the behaivior of AOL, I have the same problem, BUT you can deliver your mail to your ISP's server 
which will then relay the message to the receipients address. If you are interested, I can give you more info 
on this. I will do this the off list, because it's not xitami related. Just post your e-mail.
By the way, you mentioned below you have to de-list my domain. Where ? Why ?

Am 19 Apr 2004 um 17:38 hat Ron Ackerman geschrieben:

> The problem with blacklists is that sometimes legitimate mail servers get
> put on the list. For instance I run 12 domains with Xitami on a dynamic dns.
> This automatically makes all my domains invalid for sending email to, for
> instance, AOL users. I haven't had any other problems lately but have in the
> past and just try getting your domain de-listed when you are on a dynamic
> IP. It's we, the General Public, that is suffering because of ISP's
> unwilling to shut down spammers. What happens when you block emails for your
> customers and someone misses an important message. Are you prepared to
> suffer the legal ramifications? I'm not, so I will leave it to the customer
> to weed thru the spam.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
> [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Johannes Prost
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:07 PM
> To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> Subject: Re: RE: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
> 
> 
> I would never run a mailserver without pointing to realtime blacklist
> servers. I'm using actually 3
> blacklist's. Here is one of the bigger one's too, Http://ordb.org
> 
> Am 18 Apr 2004 um 20:31 hat corwin geschrieben:
> 
> > I would like to suggest your get your email servers to looks a 3rd party
> for a db of blocked servers.
> >
> > Last week I turned my email servers to www.spamhaus.org for checking.  I
> can say my smtp traffic is down by almost 80%.  My clients are very happy
> with the results.
> >
> >
> >
> > > There are many different spam stopping software's on the market and
> several
> > > that request you return a coded reply so that your email is accepted but
> > > more than likely he is able to put in accepted domains so that they
> > > shouldn't happen. I used one for a bit but not on this account and have
> > > since started using something else. Unfortunately with the amount of
> spam
> > > the flows on the internet people are starting to take desperate actions
> in
> > > order to stop it. I just returned from being gone for a week and had
> over
> > > 1000 messages with maybe less than 100 actual good messages. The ratio
> of
> > > email to spam is growing at an alarming rate. So don't come done on
> folks
> > > trying to get a handle on their email.
> > >
> > > No need to reply, I get off my soapbox now.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
> > > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Brian {Hamilton
> > > Kelly}
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:01 PM
> > > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone else seen this sort of stupidity when they post articles to
> > > the list?  Quite frankly, I'm not going to play games with idiots who
> > > so badly/sadly misconfigure their anti-spam measures that a post through
> > > a mailing list becomes a false positive.  Especially, I'm not going to
> > > visit a web-site which might just be a mechanism for harvesting known-
> > > to-be-working e-mail addresses, perhaps even without the knowledge of
> > > this mailing list subscriber.
> > >
> > > If others have had such nonsensical "rejections" then perhaps the list
> > > owner needs to have a quiet little word in the earhole of Erv.
> > >
> > > Forwarded message follows:
> > >
> > > > To: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP
> > > > From: Spam Interceptor <devnull@si20.com>
> > > > Message-Id: <E1BExa3-0004Pc-00@optimus>
> > > > Sender: Spam Interceptor <siweb@solidblue.biz>
> > > > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:42:31 -0400
> > > >
> > > > Dear Brian {Hamilton Kelly},
> > > >
> > > > This is Erv Kosch. I am running Spam Interceptor to block spam email
> and
> > > viruses. Please follow this link to verify that the message you sent is
> not
> > > spam email.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://si20.com/auth?uid=xxxx&mid=xxx&sid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > [I've obfuscated the details in the above that were personalized to
> > > myself.]
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Your email was intercepted because it got a spam rating of 5.4 and I
> set
> > > Spam Interceptor to ask everyone who sends me a message rated over 2 to
> > > authenticate. When you authenticate I'll receive your email and you'll
> never
> > > have to authenticate for me again, no matter what spam rating your
> emails
> > > get.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Erv Kosch
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > --
> > >    fix (vb.): 1. to paper over, obscure, hide from public view; 2. to
> > >    work around, in a way that produces unintended consequences that are
> > >    worse than the original problem.  Usage: "Windows ME fixes many of
> the
> > >    shortcomings of Windows 98 SE".
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > Corwin
> > 30+ MAA
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> >
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> Johannes
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