[Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)

Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:38:09 -0400

The problem with blacklists is that sometimes legitimate mail servers get
put on the list. For instance I run 12 domains with Xitami on a dynamic dns.
This automatically makes all my domains invalid for sending email to, for
instance, AOL users. I haven't had any other problems lately but have in the
past and just try getting your domain de-listed when you are on a dynamic
IP. It's we, the General Public, that is suffering because of ISP's
unwilling to shut down spammers. What happens when you block emails for your
customers and someone misses an important message. Are you prepared to
suffer the legal ramifications? I'm not, so I will leave it to the customer
to weed thru the spam.

-----Original Message-----
From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
[mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Johannes Prost
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:07 PM
To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
Subject: Re: RE: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)

I would never run a mailserver without pointing to realtime blacklist
servers. I'm using actually 3
blacklist's. Here is one of the bigger one's too, Http://ordb.org

Am 18 Apr 2004 um 20:31 hat corwin geschrieben:

> I would like to suggest your get your email servers to looks a 3rd party
for a db of blocked servers.
>
> Last week I turned my email servers to www.spamhaus.org for checking.  I
can say my smtp traffic is down by almost 80%.  My clients are very happy
with the results.
>
>
>
> > There are many different spam stopping software's on the market and
several
> > that request you return a coded reply so that your email is accepted but
> > more than likely he is able to put in accepted domains so that they
> > shouldn't happen. I used one for a bit but not on this account and have
> > since started using something else. Unfortunately with the amount of
spam
> > the flows on the internet people are starting to take desperate actions
in
> > order to stop it. I just returned from being gone for a week and had
over
> > 1000 messages with maybe less than 100 actual good messages. The ratio
of
> > email to spam is growing at an alarming rate. So don't come done on
folks
> > trying to get a handle on their email.
> >
> > No need to reply, I get off my soapbox now.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
> > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Brian {Hamilton
> > Kelly}
> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:01 PM
> > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> > Subject: Re: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP (fwd)
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this sort of stupidity when they post articles to
> > the list?  Quite frankly, I'm not going to play games with idiots who
> > so badly/sadly misconfigure their anti-spam measures that a post through
> > a mailing list becomes a false positive.  Especially, I'm not going to
> > visit a web-site which might just be a mechanism for harvesting known-
> > to-be-working e-mail addresses, perhaps even without the knowledge of
> > this mailing list subscriber.
> >
> > If others have had such nonsensical "rejections" then perhaps the list
> > owner needs to have a quiet little word in the earhole of Erv.
> >
> > Forwarded message follows:
> >
> > > To: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [Xitami] Xitami and PHP
> > > From: Spam Interceptor <devnull@si20.com>
> > > Message-Id: <E1BExa3-0004Pc-00@optimus>
> > > Sender: Spam Interceptor <siweb@solidblue.biz>
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:42:31 -0400
> > >
> > > Dear Brian {Hamilton Kelly},
> > >
> > > This is Erv Kosch. I am running Spam Interceptor to block spam email
and
> > viruses. Please follow this link to verify that the message you sent is
not
> > spam email.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://si20.com/auth?uid=xxxx&mid=xxx&sid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > [I've obfuscated the details in the above that were personalized to
> > myself.]
> >
> > >
> > > Your email was intercepted because it got a spam rating of 5.4 and I
set
> > Spam Interceptor to ask everyone who sends me a message rated over 2 to
> > authenticate. When you authenticate I'll receive your email and you'll
never
> > have to authenticate for me again, no matter what spam rating your
emails
> > get.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Erv Kosch
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > --
> >    fix (vb.): 1. to paper over, obscure, hide from public view; 2. to
> >    work around, in a way that produces unintended consequences that are
> >    worse than the original problem.  Usage: "Windows ME fixes many of
the
> >    shortcomings of Windows 98 SE".
> >
> >
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>
> Corwin
> 30+ MAA
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>
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