[Xitami] Community
Thomas
xitami@lists.xitami.org
Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:40:10 +0100
IRC channels can easily be logged and viewed on a webpage. Mailinglists
can easily be placed on a webpage also and a forum can easily be tweaked
to correspond with the mailinglist. There could be a special forum where
a weekly or daily digest of the list was posted for everyone to read.
Let people find the information they want where they want and how they
want. That is the key to a healthy and active community. Restricting
information to one format is not.
:o)
Thomas
David Edick wrote:
>the problem with having three seperate channels for people to use is when a
>user has a question on say, the mailing list, and the people who have the
>answer are not checking the mailing list because they are using the web
>forum, then those people are not a community. they don't interact. when you
>enable several different forms of communication, each reach a different
>audience of people. if there were possible to integrate the web forum and
>email list so that you post to the email and it were also posted to the web
>forum and the reverse were also possible, then you would have a better
>option.
>
>an irc chat only involves those people who are online at that moment. unless
>those chats were archived, it only helps the people in the conversation.
>then you have issues with irc chats for people who can't use them due to a
>print disability and need to use reading software to access their computer.
>they cant use irc even if they wanted to because information moves so
>quickly that it is impossible to keep up.
>
>Thanks for taking the time to read this,
>
>/David
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
>[mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Thomas
>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:08 PM
>To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
>Subject: Re: [Xitami] Community
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>This isn't specifically aimed at your post Johannes, but I feel I must
>correct a common misconception: Adding an IRC channel, webforum or
>whatever will NOT remove the mailinglist. It will still be here, it will
>still be used. The other tools are there to improve on the Xitami
>community, not degrade it.
>
>The more methods we have available for communication, the better. A lot
>of people hate mailinglists, a lot of people can't stand forums and
>quite a lot believe IRC to be the work of the devil. It is impossible to
>satisfy everybody, so why not enable Xitami users to use whatever form
>they personally feel best?
>
>Of course it would be best if the people behind Xitami just took care of
>all this and made the best information hub ever, but seeing as that
>probably wont happen, I believe it is up to us users to take the helm
>and move the community forward.
>
>Here's my opinion:
>
>IRC chat > Great!
>Webforum > Great!
>Mailinglist > Great!
>
>Why this reluctance to try something new? If it fails, we can always
>fall back to the current system. It's not the end of the world. :o)
>
>Sincerely,
>Thomas
>
>
>Johannes Prost wrote:
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>>Hello Members,
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>>here my opinion to this discussion
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>>IRC chat > absolute not
>>webforum > ok, accepted
>>mailinglist > preferred
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>>I had a look at the archives and the only thing which is missing for
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>convenience sake is, to make
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>>it easier to search.
>>I'm with this list now for a bit over a year, and i can't get rid of the
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>assumption that, as Ted
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>>pointed out, there are a lot people subscribed and lurking this list, but
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>they are not "active"
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>>members. Why should the behavior change with a IRC or webforum ? Would
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>those people more willing to
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>>help and give answers because we would have now a forum or IRC ?
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>>I'm not familiar with php, perl, cgi, to be able to answer the questions as
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>I would like to, but
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>>the ones I can, I try to. And with a mailinglist I can stay in the same way
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>tuned as with a
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>>webforum. I can only read the mail (answer) as soon as it is sent, not
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>earlier !
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>>Those 30/ 60 seconds difference, hey come on, that's even nonsense to argue
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>about.
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>>And in regards to IRC; what's about timezones ???? Is everyone really
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>sitting 24/7 in front of the
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>>computer to make sure to catch every message which arrives ? What is then
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>about the not so active
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>>members i mentioned earlier ? What is the one sitting 24/7 waiting for ??
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>>I'm in no way upset or disappointed, but those are only some objective
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>views/thoughts I want to
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>>through into this discussion. The "newest and fanciest" stuff is not every
>>
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>time the best what it
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>>looks in the first place.
>>
>>Johannes
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