[Xitami] Community

David Edick xitami@lists.xitami.org
Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:28:32 -0800


the problem with having three seperate channels for people to use is when a
user has a question on say, the mailing list, and the people who have the
answer are not checking the mailing list because they are using the web
forum, then those people are not a community. they don't interact. when you
enable several different forms of communication, each reach a different
audience of people. if there were possible to integrate the web forum and
email list so that you post to the email and it were also posted to the web
forum and the reverse were also possible, then you would have a better
option.

an irc chat only involves those people who are online at that moment. unless
those chats were archived, it only helps the people in the conversation.
then you have issues with irc chats for people who can't use them due to a
print disability and need to use reading software to access their computer.
they cant use irc even if they wanted to because information moves so
quickly that it is impossible to keep up.

Thanks for taking the time to read this,

/David

-----Original Message-----
From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
[mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:08 PM
To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
Subject: Re: [Xitami] Community


This isn't specifically aimed at your post Johannes, but I feel I must
correct a common misconception: Adding an IRC channel, webforum or
whatever will NOT remove the mailinglist. It will still be here, it will
still be used. The other tools are there to improve on the Xitami
community, not degrade it.

The more methods we have available for communication, the better. A lot
of people hate mailinglists, a lot of people can't stand forums and
quite a lot believe IRC to be the work of the devil. It is impossible to
satisfy everybody, so why not enable Xitami users to use whatever form
they personally feel best?

Of course it would be best if the people behind Xitami just took care of
all this and made the best information hub ever, but seeing as that
probably wont happen, I believe it is up to us users to take the helm
and move the community forward.

Here's my opinion:

IRC chat > Great!
Webforum > Great!
Mailinglist > Great!

Why this reluctance to try something new? If it fails, we can always
fall back to the current system. It's not the end of the world.  :o)

Sincerely,
Thomas


Johannes Prost wrote:

>Hello Members,
>
>here my opinion to this discussion
>
>IRC chat > absolute not
>webforum > ok, accepted
>mailinglist > preferred
>
>I had a look at the archives and the only thing which is missing for
convenience sake is, to make
>it easier to search.
>I'm with this list now for a bit over a year, and i can't get rid  of the
assumption that, as Ted
>pointed out, there are a lot people subscribed and lurking this list, but
they are not "active"
>members. Why should the behavior change with a IRC or webforum ? Would
those people more willing to
>help and give answers because we would have now a forum or IRC ?
>
>I'm not familiar with php, perl, cgi, to be able to answer the questions as
I would like to, but
>the ones I can, I try to. And with a mailinglist I can stay in the same way
tuned as with a
>webforum. I can only read the mail (answer) as soon as it is sent, not
earlier !
>Those 30/ 60 seconds difference, hey come on, that's even nonsense to argue
about.
>And in regards to IRC; what's about timezones ???? Is everyone really
sitting 24/7 in front of the
>computer to make sure to catch every message which arrives ? What is then
about the not so active
>members i mentioned earlier ? What is the one sitting 24/7 waiting for ??
>
>I'm in no way upset or disappointed, but those are only some objective
views/thoughts I want to
>through into this discussion. The "newest and fanciest" stuff is not every
time the best what it
>looks in the first place.
>
>Johannes
>
>
>
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