[Xitami] Strange "notification" received; from a list member?

[E. Egberts]

Hi,

I have received 2 of those emails today (july, 1)

Egbert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian {Hamilton Kelly}" <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
To: <xitami@lists.xitami.org>
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:32 PM
Subject: [Xitami] Strange "notification" received; from a list member?


> I've just received the following strange e-mail, claiming that a message
> of mine was deleted (by the recipient) without reading.  So I checked
> back on the message of mine referenced therein, and found that it was
> something I posted to this list exactly two months ago, on the 1st May.
>
> Has anyone else been receiving similar strange "notifications"?  Can the
> list owner confirm, or otherwise, that the purported sender of this mail
> is a subscriber to the list?
>
> Incidentally I don't, as a matter of routine, include a Return-Receipt-To
> header in my mails, and am pretty sure that the list exploder doesn't
> (because otherwise everyone would be being inundated with these sorts of
> notifications all the time.
>
> [All headers retained, for obvious reasons]
>
> Hmm, exactly two months: could it be that Russell is so far behind on
> collecting traffic from his ISP that the latter has deleted it?  (I know
> that my ISP does something similar; if mail is neither delivered by SMTP
> [for those of us that run our own smtpd] nor collected by POP3, then it
> will be bounced back to the originator [as required by RFC-[2]821] after
> 30 days.  But surely this notification is insufficient to comply with
> that sort of bounce mandated by the RFC?)
>
> Forwarded message follows:
>
> > From Russell.Bowden@fiserv.com Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:26:13 +0100 (BST)
> > Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.34] by
dsl.demon.co.uk
> > with Rexx SMTP daemon v0.40 by B{HK}. (2002-06-27 00:32:34) ;
> > Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:26:13 +0100 (BST)
> > Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for bhk@dsl.co.uk
> >           id 1025543112:10:05302:31; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 17:05:12 GMT
> > Received: from [12.2.10.245] ([12.2.10.245]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net
> >            id aa1005377; 1 Jul 2002 17:05 GMT
> > Received: from fiserv.com (root@localhost)
> > by missive-n0.fiserv.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10924
> > for <bhk@dsl.co.uk>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:07:03 -0500 (CDT)
> > Received: by Fiserv.US ; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 12:04:05 -0500
> > Hop-Count: 1
> > Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 12:04:09 -0500
> > To: "bhk@dsl.co.uk" <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
> > From: "Bowden, Russell" <Russell.Bowden@fiserv.com>
> > Subject: Non-Receipt Notification
> > Message-ID: <4302485@fiserv-missive1.fiserv.net>
> > References: <48412@dsl.co.uk>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > was not read because it was deleted before reading at time
> >
> >
>
> --
> Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
bhk@dsl.co.uk
>     "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of
>     distributed ignorance.  And we know and understand less while being
incr-
>     easingly capable."              Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT
Labs
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