[Xitami] Strange "notification" received; from a list member?

Brian {Hamilton Kelly} xitami@lists.xitami.org
Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:32:37 +0100


I've just received the following strange e-mail, claiming that a message
of mine was deleted (by the recipient) without reading.  So I checked
back on the message of mine referenced therein, and found that it was
something I posted to this list exactly two months ago, on the 1st May.

Has anyone else been receiving similar strange "notifications"?  Can the
list owner confirm, or otherwise, that the purported sender of this mail
is a subscriber to the list?

Incidentally I don't, as a matter of routine, include a Return-Receipt-To
header in my mails, and am pretty sure that the list exploder doesn't
(because otherwise everyone would be being inundated with these sorts of
notifications all the time.

[All headers retained, for obvious reasons]

Hmm, exactly two months: could it be that Russell is so far behind on
collecting traffic from his ISP that the latter has deleted it?  (I know
that my ISP does something similar; if mail is neither delivered by SMTP
[for those of us that run our own smtpd] nor collected by POP3, then it
will be bounced back to the originator [as required by RFC-[2]821] after
30 days.  But surely this notification is insufficient to comply with
that sort of bounce mandated by the RFC?)

Forwarded message follows:

> From Russell.Bowden@fiserv.com Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:26:13 +0100 (BST)
> Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.34] by dsl.demon.co.uk
> 	 with Rexx SMTP daemon v0.40 by B{HK}. (2002-06-27 00:32:34) ;
> 	 Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:26:13 +0100 (BST)
> Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for bhk@dsl.co.uk
>           id 1025543112:10:05302:31; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 17:05:12 GMT
> Received: from [12.2.10.245] ([12.2.10.245]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net
>            id aa1005377; 1 Jul 2002 17:05 GMT
> Received: from fiserv.com (root@localhost)
> 	by missive-n0.fiserv.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10924
> 	for <bhk@dsl.co.uk>; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:07:03 -0500 (CDT)
> Received: by Fiserv.US ; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 12:04:05 -0500
> Hop-Count: 1
> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 12:04:09 -0500
> To: "bhk@dsl.co.uk" <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
> From: "Bowden, Russell" <Russell.Bowden@fiserv.com>
> Subject: Non-Receipt Notification
> Message-ID: <4302485@fiserv-missive1.fiserv.net>
> References: <48412@dsl.co.uk>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> was not read because it was deleted before reading at time
> 
> 

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                          bhk@dsl.co.uk
    "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of
    distributed ignorance.  And we know and understand less while being incr-
    easingly capable."              Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs