[Xitami] Xitami Setup

Sun Jan 15 18:34:32 CET 2006

Dale,
>...and you don't spin your wheels.
Natural state of affairs for me!  I learn by doing, and enjoy the research
and discovery.

	I did discover that the ADSL "modem" is a router and has NAT
capability.  I'm starting to learn this stuff, I think.  I am using an IP
updater, 3DWatch.  It seems to work well so I'll be registering it soon,
unless I find a better one.  I set up a static IP in XP HE and forwarded
ports 80 and 21 in the NAT to this IP.  I had already opened ports 80 and 21
in my firewall, and Xitami seems to work perfectly now. Once I learned what
I needed to learn I found a site, www.portforward.com, that was able to
supply some of the details.  Thank you, and thanks to Johannes, Brian, and
the others as well.  You all got me headed in the right direction.  I know I
am by no means an expert, so more reading is still needed.  I just purchased
a 400+ page book on networking, this may help.

      I also have a few other items I want to work out; currently I am
attempting to set up PERL, get RealVNC working, and set up FTP in the near
future.  I'll keep the site updated on my progress, or lack thereof. 8^)
RealVNC is something I am just checking out, it may have uses for some of us
who deploy for long periods.

	I just downloaded and installed PXPerl (is it an acronym, PERL, or
is Perl correct?), and am going to attempt to set up a guest book using CGI.
Not very high aspirations, to be sure, but a start.

Thanks again for all the help,
Dwayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Unroe [mailto:daleunroe at fuse.net] 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:37 PM
To: 'Xitami Users General Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Xitami] Xitami Setup

Again go read up on the terms so this makes sense and you don't spin your
wheels.  The term "modem" (as in DSL Modem or similarly Cable Modem) is most
likely a router; in fact you might also refer to it as a "bridge" (in a
looser sense but that is off topic).  The modem establishes the connection
to your ISP and then converts it to route into your home environment.  This
device usually will NAT the external IP into an internal IP (like
169.254.xxx.xxx) and it may be programmed to allow you something like four
machines to simultaneously go through it to the internet.  This means it can
assign up to four addresses internally.  The router in this example is a
mini DHCP server or sorts.  If so then it is routing four internal IP
addresses through a single NAT'ed external IP address (it could also be
using port address translation too, PAT).  The point is don't get all in a
bunch over semantics; do your own homework and then ask some knowledgeable
questions.

Good luck,
Dale Unroe 

-----Original Message-----
From: xitami-bounces at lists.xitami.org
[mailto:xitami-bounces at lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of kharzham at earthlink.net
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:24 AM
To: 'Xitami Users General Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Xitami] Xitami Setup

Johannes,
	I am not using a router, it is directly connected to the ADSL.  The
modem is a ZyXel 645 Series.  It looks like I have to do some more research
on this whole topic if IP addresses.

Dwayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Johannes Prost [mailto:xitami at pastryworld.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:06 AM
To: Xitami Users General Discussion
Subject: RE: [Xitami] Xitami Setup

ipconfig is a tool to show your ip# of your computer build in network card.
That has nothing to do with your public ip. A bit more detailed info about
your setup would help to make more clear answers. 1. are you using a router
? 2. is your machine directly connected to the ADSL ( Iam assuming you have
this kind of connection) 

The more detail we get, the easier it is to find the problem.

Johannes

> The desired ports are open, but the IP shown by ShieldsUp! Is totally
> different than the IP as reported by ipconfig.  It appears to be the 
> IP of my ISP?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francis Turner [mailto:francis.turner at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:42 AM
> To: Xitami Users General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Xitami] Xitami Setup
> 
> 
> You ought to be able to check whether it is possible to see if your
> ISP is blocking ports or similar by using the GRC shields up test - 
> https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll
> 
> On 1/11/06, Icosahedron <icosahedron at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's possible that your ISP has a NAT installed, meaning that you 
> > can't host things like web servers on a PC in your home.  It's not 
> > uncommon.
> >
> > I'd look for a cheap hosting plan.  There are plenty available that 
> > will host your website.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > On 1/10/06, kharzham at earthlink.net <kharzham at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > Xitami is the first web server I have ever tried to run.  I have 
> > > just gotten a domain name through DNSexit, and want to run a small 
> > > family web site.  I am using my home computer via an ADSL line.  I 
> > > have set up Xitami, and installed 3Dwatch to update my IP.
> > > Everything works fine on yje localhost, or if I access my domain 
> > > from my computer (www.hopkinsfamily.com), but no one can access it 
> > > from another computer.  I also can not access it via my computer at 
> > > work.  I believe I have opened the proper ports in my firewall.  Can 
> > > anyone suggest a way to test my setup?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dwayne
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