From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 16:39:46 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Stefano Ricci) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:39:46 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 Message-ID: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D4_01C566D0.E6DB2740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 I have a win2000 sp4 box where, when I try to start xitami I get the = following C:\Programme\Xitami>xisrv32 -d Xitami/Open/2.5c2 NOTICE: this program is Open Source Software; please read the file = LICENSE.TXT f or conditions of use and distribution. Xitami is provided in the hope = that it w ill be useful, but without warranty, not even the implied warranty of = merchantab ility or fitness for a particular purpose. xisrv32: starting in console mode 2005/06/01 17:27:48: xilrwp: Could not open LRWP port 7081 2005/06/01 17:27:48: Protocol not known 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: web server binding to address 192.168.7.11 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: web server binding to address 127.0.0.1 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: opening HTTP service on port 7080... 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: could not open port 7080 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: Protocol not known 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: No error of course port 7081 and 7080 are not tied to any service. No firewall software is running on that box. what does it mean the error "smthttp: Protocol not known"? I'm using the default xitami.cfg and a small defaults.cfg to shift the=20 port (portbase=3D7000) and to disable ftp any ideas? thank you very much stefano ------=_NextPart_000_01D4_01C566D0.E6DB2740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi
 
I have a win2000 sp4 box where, = when I try to=20 start xitami I get the following
 
C:\Programme\Xitami>xisrv32=20 -d
Xitami/Open/2.5c2
NOTICE: this program is Open Source Software; = please=20 read the file LICENSE.TXT f
or conditions of use and = distribution. =20 Xitami is provided in the hope that it w
ill be useful, but without = warranty,=20 not even the implied warranty of merchantab
ility or fitness for a = particular=20 purpose.
xisrv32: starting in console mode
2005/06/01 17:27:48: = xilrwp:=20 Could not open LRWP port 7081
2005/06/01 17:27:48: Protocol not=20 known
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: web server binding to address=20 192.168.7.11
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: web server binding to = address=20 127.0.0.1
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: opening HTTP service on port=20 7080...
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: could not open port = 7080
2005/06/01=20 17:27:48: smthttp: Protocol not known
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: = No=20 error
of course port 7081 and 7080 are not = tied to any=20 service.
No firewall software is running on that = box.
 
what does it mean the error "smthttp: = Protocol not=20 known"?
 
I'm using the default xitami.cfg and a = small=20 defaults.cfg to shift the
port (portbase=3D7000) and to disable=20 ftp
 
 
any ideas?
 
thank you very much
 
stefano
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01D4_01C566D0.E6DB2740-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 16:48:51 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Pieter Hintjens) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:48:51 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 In-Reply-To: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> Message-ID: <200506011748.51774.ph@imatix.com> On 01/06/2005 05:39 pm, Stefano Ricci wrote: > what does it mean the error "smthttp: Protocol not known"? Most likely you don't have TCP/IP networking correctly or fully installed. -Pieter Hintjens From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 16:52:28 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Stefano Ricci) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:52:28 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> <200506011748.51774.ph@imatix.com> Message-ID: <01e701c566c1$e9e66940$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> The server is running a mailserver (smtp/pop/imap) and vnc server with no problem. Is there any check I can do on it? thanks stefano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pieter Hintjens" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 > On 01/06/2005 05:39 pm, Stefano Ricci wrote: > > > what does it mean the error "smthttp: Protocol not known"? > > Most likely you don't have TCP/IP networking correctly or fully installed. > > -Pieter Hintjens > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 17:06:49 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Pieter Hintjens) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:06:49 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 In-Reply-To: <01e701c566c1$e9e66940$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> <200506011748.51774.ph@imatix.com> <01e701c566c1$e9e66940$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> Message-ID: <200506011806.49855.ph@imatix.com> On 01/06/2005 05:52 pm, Stefano Ricci wrote: > The server is running a mailserver (smtp/pop/imap) and vnc server with no > problem. > Is there any check I can do on it? Hmm. From a quick look at the source code, the error is being detected on a call to "getprotobyname". This is usually an innocent routine. Strangely, win32 is then reporting "no error". This URL explains the possible errors: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsock/ winsock/getprotobyname_2.asp If other services are running, then TCP/IP is presumably correctly installed. So this looks like a problem with Windows that it's not even detecting correctly itself. My advice would be to (a) reboot :-), (b) try on a different machine, and (c) consider upgrading Windows. -Pieter From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 18:40:31 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Stefano Ricci) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:40:31 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> <200506011748.51774.ph@imatix.com> <01e701c566c1$e9e66940$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> <200506011806.49855.ph@imatix.com> Message-ID: <000d01c566d1$020335d0$1f02a8c0@katatjuta> thanks for your suggestion, I will try to reinstall xitami.... BTW I already rebooted (my customer) computer and also have xitami working very well on others pc. thanks stefano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pieter Hintjens" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 > On 01/06/2005 05:52 pm, Stefano Ricci wrote: > > > The server is running a mailserver (smtp/pop/imap) and vnc server with no > > problem. > > Is there any check I can do on it? > > Hmm. From a quick look at the source code, the error is being detected on a > call to "getprotobyname". This is usually an innocent routine. Strangely, > win32 is then reporting "no error". > > This URL explains the possible errors: > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsock/ > winsock/getprotobyname_2.asp > > If other services are running, then TCP/IP is presumably correctly installed. > So this looks like a problem with Windows that it's not even detecting > correctly itself. My advice would be to (a) reboot :-), (b) try on a > different machine, and (c) consider upgrading Windows. > > -Pieter > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 18:57:45 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Pieter Hintjens) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:57:45 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 In-Reply-To: <000d01c566d1$020335d0$1f02a8c0@katatjuta> References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> <200506011806.49855.ph@imatix.com> <000d01c566d1$020335d0$1f02a8c0@katatjuta> Message-ID: <200506011957.45852.ph@imatix.com> On 01/06/2005 07:40 pm, Stefano Ricci wrote: > thanks for your suggestion, > I will try to reinstall xitami.... This is unlikely to help. I'd suggest that there is something wrong with the Windows installation... try doing ping, ftp, or telnet in a dos prompt. These commands also use normal TCP/IP and should fail in the same way. -Pieter From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 19:03:36 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Stefano Ricci) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:03:36 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> <200506011806.49855.ph@imatix.com> <000d01c566d1$020335d0$1f02a8c0@katatjuta> <200506011957.45852.ph@imatix.com> Message-ID: <002401c566d4$3b73ec80$1f02a8c0@katatjuta> ping and telnet work on the dos prompt. ( I did not test ftp ) stefano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pieter Hintjens" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 > On 01/06/2005 07:40 pm, Stefano Ricci wrote: > > thanks for your suggestion, > > I will try to reinstall xitami.... > > This is unlikely to help. > > I'd suggest that there is something wrong with the Windows installation... try > doing ping, ftp, or telnet in a dos prompt. These commands also use normal > TCP/IP and should fail in the same way. > > -Pieter > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 19:07:42 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Pieter Hintjens) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:07:42 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 In-Reply-To: <002401c566d4$3b73ec80$1f02a8c0@katatjuta> References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> <200506011957.45852.ph@imatix.com> <002401c566d4$3b73ec80$1f02a8c0@katatjuta> Message-ID: <200506012007.42016.ph@imatix.com> On 01/06/2005 08:03 pm, Stefano Ricci wrote: > ping and telnet work on the dos prompt. > ( I did not test ftp ) :-( Possibly the Xitami executable has gotten corrupted. I don't think I've ever seen this particular problem before. -Pieter From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 19:32:59 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Jeff Hamblin) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:32:59 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> <200506011957.45852.ph@imatix.com> <002401c566d4$3b73ec80$1f02a8c0@katatjuta> <200506012007.42016.ph@imatix.com> Message-ID: <009d01c566d8$5828b8c0$a700a8c0@neo64> >> ping and telnet work on the dos prompt. >> ( I did not test ftp ) > > :-( Possibly the Xitami executable has gotten corrupted. I don't think > I've > ever seen this particular problem before. > Maybe he should check the files in: \WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc Maybe the "protocol" file is messed up? From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 22:49:51 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Rick Headly) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:49:51 -0300 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads Message-ID: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_1288_10907378.1117662591215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hello, i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target as" (or other= =20 browser equivalent) when downloading various high-res video files located o= n=20 my server... but they don't pay attention. they continue to left-click the= =20 links, forcing these files to load in their media-players, often with very= =20 poor, choppy performance... as my connection is simply not fast enough to= =20 support their play in real-time. i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives only once=20 (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to the site= =20 every time they want to view the clip. how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their players? rick ------=_Part_1288_10907378.1117662591215 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
hello,
 
i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target a= s" (or other browser equivalent) when downloading various hi= gh-res video files located on my server... but they don't pay attention.&nb= sp; they continue to left-click the links, forcing these files to load in t= heir media-players, often with very poor, choppy performance... as my = connection is simply not fast enough to support their play in real-time.
 
i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives only onc= e (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to the site= every time they want to view the clip.
 
how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their pl= ayers?
 
rick
------=_Part_1288_10907378.1117662591215-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 1 23:00:42 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ron:) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:00:42 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads References: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C566D3.D398B460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable give them a small clip to check out and put the full file in a zipped = folder. A zipped folder can only be downloaded. Just a thought. Ron: ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rick Headly=20 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:49 PM Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads hello, i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target as" (or = other browser equivalent) when downloading various high-res video files = located on my server... but they don't pay attention. they continue to = left-click the links, forcing these files to load in their = media-players, often with very poor, choppy performance... as my = connection is simply not fast enough to support their play in real-time. = i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives only = once (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to = the site every time they want to view the clip. how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their players? rick -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C566D3.D398B460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
give them a small clip to check out and = put the=20 full file in a zipped folder. A zipped folder can only be downloaded. = Just a=20 thought. Ron:
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rick = Headly=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 = 5:49=20 PM
Subject: [Xitami] targeting = file=20 downloads

hello,
 
i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target=20 as" (or other browser equivalent) when downloading various = high-res=20 video files located on my server... but they don't pay = attention.  they=20 continue to left-click the links, forcing these files to load in their = media-players, often with very poor, choppy performance... as my=20 connection is simply not fast enough to support their play in = real-time.=20
 
i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives = only once=20 (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to the = site=20 every time they want to view the clip.
 
how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their = players?
 
rick


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG=20 Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release = Date:=20 5/31/2005
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C566D3.D398B460-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 2 01:51:25 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Rick Headly) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:51:25 -0300 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> References: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> Message-ID: <11689a7005060117514bde6850@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_1417_2227596.1117673485725 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline thank you ron... i have actually zipped a number of different file-types in the past,=20 specifically as a means to prevent them from opening in the users browsers= =20 or other associated programs. in some cases however, doing this has either= =20 confused people, or made them angry that i've zipped items with no latitude= =20 for further compression. some people simply do not understand (for example)= =20 that a 60mb. jpeg file (used for printing large billboard-type signs) will= =20 crash their browser long before it loads, if they attempted to do so. as=20 well, a 300mb. mpeg-video (for example) could wind up consuming a lot of=20 drive-space, time, and resources for the user who's left to extract it from= =20 zip. i've been searching for solutions to this problem for the past two days,= =20 with no luck at all. some items i've browsed in the support forums suggest= =20 the use of php scripts, but this is something i know absolutely nothing=20 about. i wouldn't have the first clue how (or what) to install to xitami to= =20 make php "stuff" function, and would feel rather intimidated to ask in this= =20 forum. i don't quite "talk the talk" ;) your suggestions have been kindly appreciated. thank you :) rick =20 > On 6/1/05, Ron: wrote: . give them a small clip to check out and put the full file in a zipped=20 > folder. A zipped folder can only be downloaded. Just a thought. Ron: >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > *From:* Rick Headly =20 > *To:* xitami@lists.xitami.org=20 > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:49 PM > *Subject:* [Xitami] targeting file downloads >=20 > hello, > i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target as" (or other= =20 > browser equivalent) when downloading various high-res video files located= on=20 > my server... but they don't pay attention. they continue to left-click th= e=20 > links, forcing these files to load in their media-players, often with ver= y=20 > poor, choppy performance... as my connection is simply not fast enough to= =20 > support their play in real-time.=20 > i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives only once= =20 > (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to the site= =20 > every time they want to view the clip. > how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their players? > rick >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > ------=_Part_1417_2227596.1117673485725 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
thank you ron...
 
i have actually zipped a number of different file-types in the past, s= pecifically as a means to prevent them from opening in the users brows= ers or other associated programs.  in some cases however, doing this h= as either confused people, or made them angry that i've zipped items with n= o latitude for further compression.  some people simply do not underst= and (for example) that a 60mb. jpeg file (used for printing large billboard= -type signs) will crash their browser long before it loads, if they attempt= ed to do so.  as well, a 300mb. mpeg-video (for example) could wi= nd up consuming a lot of drive-space, time, and resources for the user who'= s left to extract it from zip.
 
i've been searching for solutions to this problem for the past two day= s, with no luck at all.  some items i've browsed in the support forums= suggest the use of php scripts, but this is something i know absolutely no= thing about.  i wouldn't have the first clue how (or what) to install = to xitami to make php "stuff" function, and would feel rather int= imidated to ask in this forum.  i don't quite "talk the talk"= ; ;)
 
your suggestions have been kindly appreciated.  thank you :)
 
rick
 
 
On 6= /1/05, Ron: < ronaldschronce@charter.net> wrote:
.
give them a small clip to check out an= d put the full file in a zipped folder. A zipped folder can only be downloa= ded. Just a thought. Ron:
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Headly =
To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:49 = PM
Subject: [Xitami] targeting file dow= nloads

 
hello,
 
i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target a= s" (or other browser equivalent) when downloading various hi= gh-res video files located on my server... but they don't pay attention.&nb= sp; they continue to left-click the links, forcing these files to load in t= heir media-players, often with very poor, choppy performance... as my = connection is simply not fast enough to support their play in real-time.=20
 
i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives only onc= e (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to the site= every time they want to view the clip.
 
how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their pl= ayers?
 
rick



------=_Part_1417_2227596.1117673485725-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 2 02:50:57 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (navy nut) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <11689a7005060117514bde6850@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050602015057.81300.qmail@web60823.mail.yahoo.com> --0-360538851-1117677057=:81034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Intimidated to post? This is something I understand, and perhaps the reason why I'm still running Xitami 'out of the box' after nearly four years. This however, along with trial & error, are my only sources of Xitami knowledge, so I wait patiently, and hope that someone else comes along asking questions about things I'd like to learn......then hope to hell that someone replies in a straight forward language that I'm able to understand. Some users tend to become very irritated with others who aren't quite up on all the terminology, others seem to become irritated when topics have been discussed more than once, which IMO, sort of defeats the purpose of discussion.....especially if the previously discussed material did not prove to be useful. I'm still REALLY stuck on a few things that have been discussed here more than once in the past, but I'm not about to ask questions......especially after seeing the frustration cause by some the people whom I've witnessed asking already. If you find an answer to your original question Rick, feel free to contact me off-list. It's something I'd really like to know about myself :-D Cheers! Rod Rick Headly wrote: php scripts, but this is something i know absolutely nothing about. i wouldn't have the first clue how (or what) to install to xitami to make php "stuff" function, and would feel rather intimidated to ask in this forum. i don't quite "talk the talk" ;) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-360538851-1117677057=:81034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Intimidated to post?
This is something I understand, and perhaps the reason why I'm still running Xitami 'out of the box' after nearly four years. This however, along with trial & error, are my only sources of Xitami knowledge, so I wait patiently, and hope that someone else comes along asking questions about things I'd like to learn......then hope to hell that someone replies in a straight forward language that I'm able to understand. Some users tend to become very irritated with others who aren't quite up on all the terminology, others seem to become irritated when topics have been discussed more than once, which IMO, sort of defeats the purpose of discussion.....especially if the previously discussed material did not prove to be useful.
 
I'm still REALLY stuck on a few things that have been discussed here more than once in the past, but I'm not about to ask questions......especially after seeing the frustration cause by some the people whom I've witnessed asking already.
 
If you find an answer to your original question Rick, feel free to contact me off-list. It's something I'd really like to know about myself :-D
 
Cheers!
Rod 
 

Rick Headly <rickhead@gmail.com> wrote:
php scripts, but this is something i know absolutely nothing about.  i wouldn't have the first clue how (or what) to install to xitami to make php "stuff" function, and would feel rather intimidated to ask in this forum.  i don't quite "talk the talk" ;)
 

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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-360538851-1117677057=:81034-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 2 07:43:37 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Marc Doigny) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:43:37 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <11689a7005060117514bde6850@mail.gmail.com> References: <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050602083658.01f65ec0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Hello ! The only way you could force the browser not trying to display the file is to change the MIME type of the file. Change the association from "video/mpeg" to "application/octet-stream" The visitor will be prompted to "run from current location" or "save". Since the extension is still mpg, when the user opens the file, it plays from the local storage. I'm not sure if it will work, but it's the only possibility. marc ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 2 14:59:59 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Alex Barna) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:59:59 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> References: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <429F10DF.7080503@mn.rr.com> Rick Headly wrote: > hello, > > i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target as" (or > other browser equivalent) when downloading various high-res video > files located on my server... but they don't pay attention. they > continue to left-click the links, forcing these files to load in > their media-players, often with very poor, choppy performance... as > my connection is simply not fast enough to support their play in > real-time. > > i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives only > once (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to > the site every time they want to view the clip. > > how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their players? > > rick That is just what download sites like tucows.com & download.com do. What you need is some java script code for auto download on the page. Then clicking on the file in a list brings up a page with the java code. Do a search for free java scripts. Alex, From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 2 18:30:03 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Jeff McDonald) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:30:03 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> References: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> Message-ID: <429F421B.5090901@bellsouth.net> Why not use a fpt link insted of a http link to the file. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 2 10:08:20 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Martin Bleisteiner) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:08:20 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> References: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <429ECC84.8000206@bleisteiner.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090407000308070109060209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about simply renaming the file? Instead "this.mpg" name "this.xxx" so the browser asks for download and the user simply can rename. Rick Headly schrieb: > hello, > > i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target > as" (or other browser equivalent) when downloading various high-res > video files located on my server... but they don't pay attention. > they continue to left-click the links, forcing these files to load in > their media-players, often with very poor, choppy performance... as my > connection is simply not fast enough to support their play in real-time. > > i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives only > once (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to > the site every time they want to view the clip. > > how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their players? > > rick --------------090407000308070109060209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What about simply renaming the file? Instead "this.mpg" name "this.xxx" so the browser asks for download and the user simply can rename.

Rick Headly schrieb:

hello,
 
i keep telling my visitors to right-click and "save target as" (or other browser equivalent) when downloading various high-res video files located on my server... but they don't pay attention.  they continue to left-click the links, forcing these files to load in their media-players, often with very poor, choppy performance... as my connection is simply not fast enough to support their play in real-time.
 
i want these files to be downloaded to the user's hard-drives only once (take the file and go away)... rather than having them return to the site every time they want to view the clip.
 
how can i force a "file-download" without waking up their players?
 
rick
--------------090407000308070109060209-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 2 10:11:03 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Martin Bleisteiner) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:11:03 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami not starting on win2000 In-Reply-To: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> References: <01d701c566c0$23756fa0$c964a8c0@PAPEROGA> Message-ID: <429ECD27.2090805@bleisteiner.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010203040202080101080708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stefano, You could try the following: - Configure Xitami (for testing) to portbase 0 / port 80. - Try another simple webserver for testing, e.g. minihttp if this can open port 7080. Martin Stefano Ricci schrieb: > Hi > > I have a win2000 sp4 box where, when I try to start xitami I get the > following > > C:\Programme\Xitami>xisrv32 -d > Xitami/Open/2.5c2 > NOTICE: this program is Open Source Software; please read the file > LICENSE.TXT f > or conditions of use and distribution. Xitami is provided in the hope > that it w > ill be useful, but without warranty, not even the implied warranty of > merchantab > ility or fitness for a particular purpose. > xisrv32: starting in console mode > 2005/06/01 17:27:48: xilrwp: Could not open LRWP port 7081 > 2005/06/01 17:27:48: Protocol not known > 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: web server binding to address 192.168.7.11 > 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: web server binding to address 127.0.0.1 > 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: opening HTTP service on port 7080... > 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: could not open port 7080 > 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: Protocol not known > 2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: No error > of course port 7081 and 7080 are not tied to any service. > No firewall software is running on that box. > > what does it mean the error "smthttp: Protocol not known"? > > I'm using the default xitami.cfg and a small defaults.cfg to shift the > port (portbase=7000) and to disable ftp > > > any ideas? > > thank you very much > > stefano > > --------------010203040202080101080708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stefano,

You could try the following:

- Configure Xitami (for testing) to portbase 0 / port 80.
- Try another simple webserver for testing, e.g. minihttp if this can open port 7080.

Martin

Stefano Ricci schrieb:
Hi
 
I have a win2000 sp4 box where, when I try to start xitami I get the following
 
C:\Programme\Xitami>xisrv32 -d
Xitami/Open/2.5c2
NOTICE: this program is Open Source Software; please read the file LICENSE.TXT f
or conditions of use and distribution.  Xitami is provided in the hope that it w
ill be useful, but without warranty, not even the implied warranty of merchantab
ility or fitness for a particular purpose.
xisrv32: starting in console mode
2005/06/01 17:27:48: xilrwp: Could not open LRWP port 7081
2005/06/01 17:27:48: Protocol not known
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: web server binding to address 192.168.7.11
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: web server binding to address 127.0.0.1
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: opening HTTP service on port 7080...
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: could not open port 7080
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: Protocol not known
2005/06/01 17:27:48: smthttp: No error
of course port 7081 and 7080 are not tied to any service.
No firewall software is running on that box.
 
what does it mean the error "smthttp: Protocol not known"?
 
I'm using the default xitami.cfg and a small defaults.cfg to shift the
port (portbase=7000) and to disable ftp
 
 
any ideas?
 
thank you very much
 
stefano
 
 
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Looks like I approved one too many of the messages when letting in some "not subscribed" posts this afternoon. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, System Administrator, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 7 07:51:43 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael diLorenzo) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 02:51:43 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <429F421B.5090901@bellsouth.net> References: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> <429F421B.5090901@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:30:03 -0500, Jeff McDonald wrote: An ftp link will open the file the same way an http link will. > Why not use a fpt link insted of a http link to the file. > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 7 18:47:50 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:47:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads Message-ID: <60129@dsl.co.uk> In message "Michael diLorenzo" writes: > On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:30:03 -0500, Jeff McDonald > wrote: > > > Why not use a fpt link insted of a http link to the file. > > An ftp link will open the file the same way an http link will. What a strange browser your visitors must be using; an FTP server has no capability of sending a Content-Type header, so it's purely a binary (or text) stream to the client end. A browser has absolutely no right to invent its own concept of a Content-Type, *especially* when acting as an FTP client. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte." Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/, 1657 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 03:12:12 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Rick Headly) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:12:12 -0300 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050602083658.01f65ec0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> References: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> <11689a7005060117514bde6850@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050602083658.01f65ec0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Message-ID: <11689a7005060719124a31dd14@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_94_4018284.1118196732225 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline >=20 > Martin Bleisteiner - said: >=20 > What about simply renaming the file? Instead "this.mpg" name "this.xxx" s= o=20 > the browser asks for download and the user simply can rename. thank you kindly for your input martin! this is certainly an option i will= =20 consider, if all else fails. my main objective however, is to keep this as= =20 simple as possible for the end user. we all know how most people (average= =20 folks) fail to read instructions, and shun things which they so carelessly= =20 perceive as "geek-talk" or "technical detail". complete 'click and go'=20 automation is my goal, it keeps average folks content ;) > "Marc Doigny" - said: > > The only way you could force the browser not trying to display the file i= s > to change the MIME type of the file. > > Change the association from "video/mpeg" to "application/octet-stream" > The visitor will be prompted to "run from current location" or "save". thank you for your interesting suggestion marc! by this, i assume that you= =20 are talking about editing the individual headers of each of my files in=20 question. this is not something i've ever experimented with before, but=20 something i plan to look into more deeply in the near future. if it works,= =20 it has the potential to fuel my imagination for other projects which are=20 currently on my back-burners :) > "Alex Barna" - said: > > That is just what download sites like tucows.com &=20 download.com do. > What you need is some java script code for auto download on the page. > Then clicking on the file in a list brings up a page with the java code. > Do a search for free java scripts. interesting that you mention java-script alex, as it's originally where i= =20 first assumed i'd find a solution. it seems logical to me, that some very= =20 simple java-script should be able to deal with such a thing rather=20 efficiently. a search of all my favourite java-script sites however, turns= =20 up nothing of the sort whatsoever. i'm able to google-up numerous support forums though, only to read posts= =20 from so many others, who are trying to achieve similar results. most of=20 these threads start out discussing the availability of such pre-written=20 java-script... but then after much confusion and failed tests, they=20 eventually focus their attention around php. this particular php script=20 seems most popular for the purpose: http://elouai.com/force-download.php=20 on a side note to all of this, i often use a rather nifty little service= =20 for sending extremely large e-mail attachments (up to 1gb. in size): http://s5.yousendit.com/ - when downloading files through this service, they never attempt to load= =20 into an associated program, regardless of their type. for an example of=20 exactly what i'm talking about, please click this direct file-link to a=20 windows-media-video file, and watch how it prompts your download dialog,=20 rather than your file-player: http://d50.yousendit.com/C/0LJ97YT1TG4M0QY8UE1AT47UL/Use_seat.wmv because "this particular example" completely eliminates the use of=20 web-pages, it also eliminates the possible use of java-script. this is what= =20 first gave me the idea that something must be tweaked on their web-server..= .=20 and my main reason for bringing such a question into the xitami forum. i'd like to be able to copy whatever it is they're doing. =20 > "Jeff McDonald" - said: > > Why not use a fpt link insted of a http link to the file. thank you jeff! i assumed this might work as well... 'my' tests however,= =20 have concluded that left-clicking a direct ftp-link to a media-file 'still'= =20 makes a call to the file-player (on all 3 of my work-stations). to run thes= e=20 tests, i've been accessing media-files (via ftp link) which are located on = a=20 friend's ms-iis server (if that makes any difference). very bad things happen when i attempt to access my own xitami ftp service= =20 from within the local network. it's always been this way. i've learned to= =20 live with it ;) =20 > "Michael diLorenzo" - said: > > An ftp link will open the file the same way an http link will. i agree 100% michael. thank you for your input :) >"Brian {Hamilton Kelly}" - said: > > What a strange browser your visitors must be using; an FTP server has no > capability of sending a Content-Type header, so it's purely a binary (or > text) stream to the client end. > > A browser has absolutely no right to invent its own concept of a > Content-Type, *especially* when acting as an FTP client. are you suggesting brian, that an ftp link should 'not' call up the=20 file-player? ... they most certainly do, at my location. have yourselves a pleasant day, and please keep me in mind if anyone=20 happens to discover a fool-proof work-around for this particular quirk. all= =20 of your comments have been greatly appreciated, thanks again :) rick ------=_Part_94_4018284.1118196732225 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Martin Bleisteiner - said:
What about simply renaming the file? Instead "this.mpg" name &q= uot; this.xxx" so the browser asks for download and the user simply can ren= ame.

thank you kindly for your input martin!  this is = certainly an option i will consider, if all else fails. my main objective h= owever, is to keep this as simple as possible for the end user.  we al= l know how most people (average folks) fail to read instructions, and shun = things which they so carelessly perceive as "geek-talk" or "= technical detail".  complete 'click and go' automation is my goal= , it keeps average folks content ;)


> "Marc Doigny" - said:
>
> The only w= ay you could force the browser not trying to display the file is
> to= change the MIME type of the file.
>
> Change the association f= rom "video/mpeg" to "application/octet-stream"
> The visitor will be prompted to "run from current location&qu= ot; or "save".

thank you for your interesting suggestion m= arc!  by this, i assume that you are talking about editing the individ= ual headers of each of my files in question.  this is not something i'= ve ever experimented with before, but something i plan to look into more de= eply in the near future. if it works, it has the potential to fuel my imagi= nation for other projects which are currently on my back-burners :)


> "Alex Barna" - said:
>
> That is jus= t what download sites like tucows.com &am= p; download.com do.
> What you ne= ed is some java script code for auto download on the page.
> Then clicking on the file in a list brings up a page with the java= code.
> Do a search for free java scripts.

interesting that y= ou mention java-script alex, as it's originally where i first assumed i'd f= ind a solution.  it seems logical to me, that some very simple java-sc= ript should be able to deal with such a thing rather efficiently.  a s= earch of all my favourite java-script sites however, turns up nothing of th= e sort whatsoever.
 
i'm able to google-up numerous support forums though, only t= o read posts from so many others, who are trying to achieve similar re= sults.  most of these threads start out discussing the availability of= such pre-written java-script... but then after much confusion and fai= led tests, they eventually focus their attention around php.  this par= ticular php script seems most popular for the purpose:
 
on a side note to all of this, i often use a rather nifty little servi= ce for sending extremely large e-mail attachments (up to 1gb. in size):
 
- when downloading files through this service, they never attempt to l= oad into an associated program, regardless of their type.  for an exam= ple of exactly what i'm talking about, please click this direct file-link t= o a windows-media-video file, and watch how it prompts your download dialog= , rather than your file-player:
 
because "this particular example" completely eliminates the = use of web-pages, it also eliminates the possible use of java-script. = this is what first gave me the idea that something must be tweaked on thei= r web-server... and my main reason for bringing such a question into the xi= tami forum.
 
i'd like to be able to copy whatever it is they're doing.
 

> "Jeff McDonald" - said:
>
> Why not use= a fpt link insted of a http link to the file.
 
thank you jeff!  i assumed this might work as well... 'my' tests = however, have concluded that left-clicking a direct ftp-link to a medi= a-file 'still' makes a call to the file-player (on all 3 of my work-station= s).  to run these tests, i've been accessing media-files (via ftp link= ) which are located on a friend's ms-iis server (if that makes any differen= ce).
 
very bad things happen when i attempt to access my own xitami ftp serv= ice from within the local network.  it's always been this way.&nb= sp; i've learned to live with it ;)
 

> "Michael diLorenzo" - said:
>
> An ftp = link will open the file the same way an http link will.
 
i agree 100% michael.  thank you for your input :)


>= ;"Brian {Hamilton Kelly}" - said:
>
> What a strange = browser your visitors must be using; an FTP server has no
> capabilit= y of sending a Content-Type header, so it's purely a binary (or
> text) stream to the client end.
>
> A browser has abso= lutely no right to invent its own concept of a
> Content-Type, *espec= ially* when acting as an FTP client.
 
are you suggesting brian, that an ftp link should 'not' call up the fi= le-player?
 
... they most certainly do, at my location.
 
 
have yourselves a pleasant day, and please keep me in mind if anyone h= appens to discover a fool-proof work-around for this particular quirk.=   all of your comments have been greatly appreciated, thanks again :)<= /div>
 
rick
 
 
------=_Part_94_4018284.1118196732225-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 04:02:01 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (RPO) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:02:01 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C56B9B.C4A9C350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am running W2K Server (NTFS) and I have done some research concerning = directory limitations within the W2K environment and now I am looking = for potential limitations with Xitami. My server will host potentially = 10s of thousands of users. Each user will have the ability to create = their own photo albums and then have photo books within each album. = >From a storage standpoint each user will have their own user directory, = that user directory will hold from 1 to 15 sub directories that will = represent the photo albums. Then each photo album directory will have = from 1 to 15 photo book albums. Sorry for the extensive path below put = I wanted to give an accurate representation of what I am looking to do. = The directory tree will look like this (each numbered directory, ie: = 1000, 2000 - will hold up to 1000 user directories each). The things I = am considering are sub-directory limitations per parent directory and = performance issues for Windows considering the directory structure and = then ultimately Xitami's performance handling the directory structure. = Comments?! This is the only info I found pertaining to NTFS limitations: = http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en= -us/Default.asp?url=3D/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-u= s/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp but I am uncertain if I fully understand its = implications. xitami - webpages - albums - 1000 - user1 - photoAlbum1 -photoAlbum1_book1 -photoAlbum1_book2 - photoAlbum2 -photoAlbum2_book1 -photoAlbum2_book2 - user2 - photoAlbum1 -photoAlbum1_book1 -photoAlbum1_book2 - photoAlbum2 -photoAlbum2_book1 -photoAlbum2_book2 - user3 ... - user1000 - 2000 - user1001 - photoAlbum1 -photoAlbum1_book1 -photoAlbum1_book2 - photoAlbum2 -photoAlbum2_book1 -photoAlbum2_book2 - user1002 - photoAlbum1 -photoAlbum1_book1 -photoAlbum1_book2 - photoAlbum2 -photoAlbum2_book1 -photoAlbum2_book2 - user1003 ... - user2000 - 3000 - 4000 - 5000 (5,000 users) ... ... - 100000 (100,000 users) ... ... - 1000000 (1 million users) ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C56B9B.C4A9C350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am running W2K Server (NTFS) and I = have done some=20 research concerning directory limitations within the W2K environment and = now I=20 am looking for potential limitations with Xitami.  My server will = host=20 potentially 10s of thousands  of users.  Each user will have = the=20 ability to create their own photo albums and then have photo books = within each=20 album.  From a storage standpoint each user will have their own = user=20 directory, that user directory will hold from 1 to 15 sub directories = that will=20 represent the photo albums.  Then each photo album directory will = have from=20 1 to 15 photo book albums.  Sorry for the extensive path below put = I wanted=20 to give an accurate representation of what I am looking to do.  The = directory tree will look like this (each numbered directory, ie: 1000, = 2000 -=20 will hold up to 1000 user directories each).  The things I am = considering=20 are sub-directory limitations per parent directory and performance = issues for=20 Windows considering the directory structure and then ultimately Xitami's = performance handling the directory structure.  = Comments?!
 
This is the only info I found = pertaining to NTFS=20 limitations: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documenta= tion/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=3D/resources/documentati= on/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp but=20 I am uncertain if I fully understand its implications.
 
xitami
     - = webpages
          -=20 albums
          &nbs= p;   =20 - 1000
          &nbs= p;        =20 - user1
          &nbs= p;            = ; =20 - photoAlbum1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum1_book1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum1_book2
          &nbs= p;            = ; =20 - photoAlbum2
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum2_book1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum2_book2
          &nbs= p;        =20 - user2
          &nbs= p;            = ; =20 - photoAlbum1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum1_book1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum1_book2
          &nbs= p;            = ; =20 - photoAlbum2
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum2_book1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum2_book2
          &nbs= p;        =20 - user3
            =    =20     ...
          &nbs= p;        =20 - user1000
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          &nbs= p;        =20 - user1001
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          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum1_book2
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          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum2_book1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum2_book2
          &nbs= p;        =20 - user1002
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          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum1_book1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum1_book2
          &nbs= p;            = ; =20 - photoAlbum2
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum2_book1
          &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 -photoAlbum2_book2
          &nbs= p;        =20 - user1003
            =    =20     ...
          &nbs= p;        =20 -=20 user2000
          &nbs= p;   =20 - 3000
          &nbs= p;   =20 - 4000
          &nbs= p;   =20 - 5000 (5,000 users)
          &nbs= p;   =20 ..
           &n= bsp;  =20 ..
           &n= bsp;  =20 - 100000 (100,000 users)
           &n= bsp;  =20 ..
           &n= bsp;  =20 ..
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------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C56B9B.C4A9C350-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 04:46:46 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Rick Headly) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:46:46 -0300 Subject: [Xitami] log analysis Message-ID: <11689a700506072046174feadf@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_133_15189772.1118202406380 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_134_12389708.1118202406381" ------=_Part_134_12389708.1118202406381 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline while i'm at it, i'm currently trying to investigate some rather strange activity, and woul= d=20 appreciate someone taking a quick look at a clip from an access log, which= =20 i've attached to this message. i've never seen anything quite like this. was i hacked, or has someone=20 attempted to hack? they gained access by use of ip-address alone... no=20 domain name was used. my connection speed has been reduced to a crawl. thank you rick ------=_Part_134_12389708.1118202406381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
while i'm at it,
 
i'm currently trying to investigate some rather strange activity, and = would appreciate someone taking a quick look at a clip from an access log, = which i've attached to this message.
 
i've never seen anything quite like this.  was i hacked, or has s= omeone attempted to hack?  they gained access by use of ip-address alo= ne... no domain name was used.  my connection speed has been reduced t= o a crawl.
 
thank you
 
rick
 
 
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<42A5F7E9.3020608@bleisteiner.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040404030403020608080404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Why not use a ftp link insted of a http link to the file. >>> >>> >>An ftp link will open the file the same way an http link will. >> >> >What a strange browser your visitors must be using; an FTP server has no >capability of sending a Content-Type header, so it's purely a binary (or >text) stream to the client end. >A browser has absolutely no right to invent its own concept of a >Content-Type, *especially* when acting as an FTP client. > > Every browser gets to know the file name from the server, including the file ending. The browser may decide what to do with the downloaded file, dependent on the user settings. Maybe the settings are to open the file immediately using the default application according to the file ending. Opera and MSIE do so. Martin --------------040404030403020608080404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Why not use a ftp link insted of a http link to the file.
      
An ftp link will open the file the same way an http link will.
    
What a strange browser your visitors must be using; an FTP server has no
capability of sending a Content-Type header, so it's purely a binary (or
text) stream to the client end.
A browser has absolutely no right to invent its own concept of a
Content-Type, *especially* when acting as an FTP client.
  
Every browser gets to know the file name from the server, including the file ending. The browser may decide what to do with the downloaded file, dependent on the user settings. Maybe the settings are to open the file immediately using the default application according to the file ending. Opera and MSIE do so.

Martin
--------------040404030403020608080404-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 07:00:16 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Magnus Wedberg) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:00:16 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] log analysis In-Reply-To: <11689a700506072046174feadf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42A6A590.22792.14A43D@localhost> > i've never seen anything quite like this. was i hacked, or has > someone attempted to hack? If you haven't seen this before, you haven't been operating a server for long ;-) It's automated ("script kiddie") scanning for vulnerabilities (mostly old IIS flaws, probably). Just ignore it. -- Magnus Wedberg http://www.magnuswedberg.com/ mw AT 9000.org Warning! Objects in viewfinder may be closer than they appear. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 07:34:13 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Marc Doigny) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:34:13 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <11689a7005060719124a31dd14@mail.gmail.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050602083658.01f65ec0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> <11689a7005060117514bde6850@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050602083658.01f65ec0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050608082618.025e2b90@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> At 04:12 8/06/05, you wrote: > > "Marc Doigny" - said: > > > > The only way you could force the browser not trying to display the file is > > to change the MIME type of the file. > > > > Change the association from "video/mpeg" to "application/octet-stream" > > The visitor will be prompted to "run from current location" or "save". > >thank you for your interesting suggestion marc! by this, i assume that >you are talking about editing the individual headers of each of my files >in question. this is not something i've ever experimented with before, >but something i plan to look into more deeply in the near future. if it >works, it has the potential to fuel my imagination for other projects >which are currently on my back-burners :) > No, you don't have to edit each file. The http server adds these headers automatically, using a table located in your configuration file (xitami.cfg) Example of your xitami.cfg file: [Mime] default=*/* # Default MIME type # Text MIME types etx=text/x-setext htm=text/html htp=text/html html=text/html rtx=text/richtext tsv=text/tab-separated-values txt=text/plain .=text/plain # Files with no extension # Image MIME types gif=image/gif (and so on) Of course, you could add individual headers to each file (that can be done for cgi applications, so you can send the file in "chunked" mode, or gzip the file or whatever that request non-standard headers) but it's easier with one single configuration file. Don't modify the xitami.cfg file, but create (or modify) default.cfg marc ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 07:44:03 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael diLorenzo) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:44:03 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050608082618.025e2b90@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050602083658.01f65ec0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> <11689a7005060117514bde6850@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050602083658.01f65ec0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> <5.1.0.14.2.20050608082618.025e2b90@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Message-ID: The challenge here is that after making these changes, no video/mpeg will stream in the visitor's browser. Of course, this may be exactly what you're looking for, but it's something to be aware of. Also, as you mentioned in your first post, I believe, there are several ways to do this in php. PHP is a free application, installs very easily, and adds quite a bit of power to your web pages, imo. I use it very extensively on my sites, and it really adds some great content. It's something you might want to look in to. :-) Michael On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:34:13 +0200, Marc Doigny wrote: > At 04:12 8/06/05, you wrote: > >> > "Marc Doigny" - said: >> > >> > The only way you could force the browser not trying to display the >> file is >> > to change the MIME type of the file. >> > >> > Change the association from "video/mpeg" to "application/octet-stream" >> > The visitor will be prompted to "run from current location" or "save". >> >> thank you for your interesting suggestion marc! by this, i assume that >> you are talking about editing the individual headers of each of my >> files in question. this is not something i've ever experimented with >> before, but something i plan to look into more deeply in the near >> future. if it works, it has the potential to fuel my imagination for >> other projects which are currently on my back-burners :) >> > > No, you don't have to edit each file. > The http server adds these headers automatically, using a table located > in your configuration file (xitami.cfg) > > Example of your xitami.cfg file: > [Mime] > default=*/* # Default MIME type > > # Text MIME types > etx=text/x-setext > htm=text/html > htp=text/html > html=text/html > rtx=text/richtext > tsv=text/tab-separated-values > txt=text/plain > .=text/plain # Files with no extension > > # Image MIME types > gif=image/gif > (and so on) > > > Of course, you could add individual headers to each file (that can be > done for cgi applications, so you can send the file in "chunked" mode, > or gzip the file or whatever that request non-standard headers) but it's > easier with one single configuration file. > Don't modify the xitami.cfg file, but create (or modify) default.cfg > > > marc > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com > Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast > ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com > ----------------------- > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 07:47:08 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael diLorenzo) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:47:08 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <42A5F7E9.3020608@bleisteiner.net> References: <60129@dsl.co.uk> <42A5F7E9.3020608@bleisteiner.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:39:21 +0200, Martin Bleisteiner wrote: > >>>> Why not use a ftp link insted of a http link to the file. >>>> >>>> >>> An ftp link will open the file the same way an http link will. >>> >>> >> What a strange browser your visitors must be using; an FTP server has no >> capability of sending a Content-Type header, so it's purely a binary (or >> text) stream to the client end. >> A browser has absolutely no right to invent its own concept of a >> Content-Type, *especially* when acting as an FTP client. >> I hadn't actually considered whether or not a browser has rights. Nevertheless, I'm running xitami as a web and file server, and an http link and ftp link to the same image produce exactly the same results on the two browsers I use. I dare say that these two browsers constitute a majority of visitors to my sites. -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 08:06:50 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael diLorenzo) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 03:06:50 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads In-Reply-To: <11689a7005060719124a31dd14@mail.gmail.com> References: <11689a7005060114497b66025f@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c566f5$5b61e490$6900a8c0@ronsxppro> <11689a7005060117514bde6850@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050602083658.01f65ec0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> <11689a7005060719124a31dd14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Rick, this just came to me when I went to bed, and I thought I'd get up and test it and type it out real quick: Changing the MIME filetype in the xitami configuration file (preferably defaults.cfs) is probably your best bet. However, this will hose the ability of the server to provide streaming type media or images when you do want them. A workaround for this would be to install two copies of xitami on the same computer in different directories. In the second installation, make the changes to the MIME types that Marc suggested, and change the portbase from 0 to, say, 1000. That will cause the second server to listen on port 1080 for web traffic. Then, on your home page, create links to the media files that include the reference to port 1080, such as http://www.mydomain.com:1080/mymedia.wmv. This will cause the visitor to hit your computer on port 1080, and the second xitami server will respond. Since the second server is programmed to confuse browsers as to the type of file, they'll get the download prompt. In this way, you can have your server handle file types normally, but point visitors to the second server when you want to force the download prompt. You'll have to do the obvious shuffling of your media files to a place that the second server can see, but I just tested this, and it works fine on my system. Now...what are you doing to do when the visitor clicks "Open" instead of "Save?" :-D Michael From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 10:28:02 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Marc Doigny) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:28:02 +0200 Subject: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050608105819.01fbb360@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Hello ! There are no limitations on the number of files a directory can hold. Windows is very fast at accessing files. I've done some testing with directories containing 20.000 files, any file can always be retrieved in less than 500 ms (PIII 600MHz with windows 2000 server) The problem will not be the amount of files but the expected traffic (photos are typically very large). It's important that the drive is defragmented every week or so. Begin with a clean, formatted disk (best NOT to use the windows system disk). Check that the MFT (master file table) is not fragmented (this can only be archieved by using a newly formatted disk or partition). The MFT contains all the links to the files, and it's important that this file does not become fragmented, as a defragmenter is not able to defragment it. Use a second disk and not a partition, this will ensure fast access. And use at least 512 MB of ram (windows will use part of it to store the file list). If you have more than 10.000 effective users (with some 100 users online at any moment), you should consider professional solutions like load balancing, cluster systems, fail over, .... Xitami on itself is as good as the underlying OS. Don't use the included FTP server with high volume transfers as it is not very stable under heavy load (it's fine for small files). Xitami itself is very stable, typically running for months and not needing any reboot. For such a demanding application, don't install anything else on the server, and stop most windows services. Don't use the indexing service, switch the 8.3 naming off, don't use compression, ... Dynamic disks are not better than basic disks when it comes to speed (You only should use dynamic disks if you plan to use partitions spanning multiples disk, that's the only reason for using dd) A raid 01 is a good thing too for your data disk. marc At 05:02 8/06/05, you wrote: >I am running W2K Server (NTFS) and I have done some research concerning >directory limitations within the W2K environment and now I am looking for >potential limitations with Xitami. My server will host potentially 10s of >thousands of users. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 17:08:19 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (John Jonas) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:08:19 -0500 Subject: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures Message-ID: <953JFHqiT5792S12.1118246899@cmsweb12.cms.usa.net> One proviso on this. My experience with XP is that it is extremly slow i= n dealing with large numbers of image files on a NTFS formatted volume. = Converting the volume to FAT-32 gets a really dramatic performance improvement. No numbers on this, only observation of the way Windows Explorer displays= the volume. = ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 04:26:18 AM CDT From: Marc Doigny To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: Re: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory = structures Hello ! There are no limitations on the number of files a directory can hold. Windows is very fast at accessing files. I've done some testing with directories containing 20.000 files, any file= = can always be retrieved in less than 500 ms (PIII 600MHz with windows 200= 0 = server) =2E..... From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 17:32:59 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ron Ackerman) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:32:59 -0400 Subject: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050608105819.01fbb360@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Message-ID: If you switch the 8.3 naming off aren't you limited to 128 characters in the path string and wouldn't you have to limit the file and directory names to 8 characters? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Marc Doigny Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:28 AM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: Re: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures Hello ! There are no limitations on the number of files a directory can hold. Windows is very fast at accessing files. I've done some testing with directories containing 20.000 files, any file can always be retrieved in less than 500 ms (PIII 600MHz with windows 2000 server) The problem will not be the amount of files but the expected traffic (photos are typically very large). It's important that the drive is defragmented every week or so. Begin with a clean, formatted disk (best NOT to use the windows system disk). Check that the MFT (master file table) is not fragmented (this can only be archieved by using a newly formatted disk or partition). The MFT contains all the links to the files, and it's important that this file does not become fragmented, as a defragmenter is not able to defragment it. Use a second disk and not a partition, this will ensure fast access. And use at least 512 MB of ram (windows will use part of it to store the file list). If you have more than 10.000 effective users (with some 100 users online at any moment), you should consider professional solutions like load balancing, cluster systems, fail over, .... Xitami on itself is as good as the underlying OS. Don't use the included FTP server with high volume transfers as it is not very stable under heavy load (it's fine for small files). Xitami itself is very stable, typically running for months and not needing any reboot. For such a demanding application, don't install anything else on the server, and stop most windows services. Don't use the indexing service, switch the 8.3 naming off, don't use compression, ... Dynamic disks are not better than basic disks when it comes to speed (You only should use dynamic disks if you plan to use partitions spanning multiples disk, that's the only reason for using dd) A raid 01 is a good thing too for your data disk. marc At 05:02 8/06/05, you wrote: >I am running W2K Server (NTFS) and I have done some research concerning >directory limitations within the W2K environment and now I am looking for >potential limitations with Xitami. My server will host potentially 10s of >thousands of users. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 06/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 06/07/2005 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 17:51:28 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Marc Doigny) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:51:28 +0200 Subject: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: <953JFHqiT5792S12.1118246899@cmsweb12.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050608184435.01f5ed10@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> At 18:08 8/06/05, you wrote: >One proviso on this. My experience with XP is that it is extremly slow in >dealing with large numbers of image files on a NTFS formatted volume. >Converting the volume to FAT-32 gets a really dramatic performance >improvement. > >No numbers on this, only observation of the way Windows Explorer displays the >volume. XP does a lot more than just displaying the files. For instance, it creates an alternate stream for each image file, containing a thumbnail of the image. FAT-32 files don't have streams, so there is less processing involved. FAT-32 is a leaner file system, but it's less robust, and slower for directories with lots of files. NTFS suffer less performance degradation when files are getting fragmented. Besides, don't use windows explorer to time directory access. To display my 20000 files, it takes nearly 5 seconds. Probably the files are read and sorted before being displayed. Take also into account that for each file an icon must be displayed. marc ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 17:59:40 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Marc Doigny) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:59:40 +0200 Subject: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050608105819.01fbb360@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050608185147.01f5fc30@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> At 18:32 8/06/05, you wrote: >If you switch the 8.3 naming off aren't you limited to 128 characters in the >path string and wouldn't you have to limit the file and directory names to 8 >characters? > >Ron No, when switching the 8.3 naming convention OFF, you switch compatibility with legacy applications off. The 8.3 sheme has a 8 character limit, the LFN not. By switching 8.3 support off, you switch off the possibility to display file names using the 8.3 naming convention for applications needing it. Not having to bother to create unique 8.3 filenames based on the LFN can speed up the system. Whenever a file is created, a 8.3 filename must be created too, and in most cases this mean that the directory must be searched to look for an unique name, and create a new one if the name is already in use. With large directories, this process must be repeated over and over. From Microsoft: "Every time you create a file with a long file name, NTFS creates a second file entry that has a similar 8.3 short file name. A file with an 8.3 short file name has a file name containing 1 to 8 characters and a file name extension containing 1 to 3 characters. The file name and file name extension are separated by a period. If you have a large number of files (300,000 or more) in a folder, and the files have long file names with the same initial characters, the time required to create the files increases. The increase occurs because NTFS bases the short file name on the first six characters of the long file name. In folders with more than 300,000 files, the short file names start to conflict after NTFS uses all of the 8.3 names that are similar to the long file names. Repeated conflicts between a generated short file name and existing short file names cause NTFS to regenerate the short file name from 6 to 8 times. To reduce the time required to create files, you can use the fsutil behavior set disable8dot3 command to disable the creation of 8.3 short file names. (You must restart your computer for this setting to take effect.) For more information about disabling 8.3 short file names, see "MS-DOS-Readable File Names on NTFS Volumes" later in this chapter." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 8 23:36:55 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:36:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Xitami] targeting file downloads Message-ID: <60144@dsl.co.uk> In message <42A5F7E9.3020608@bleisteiner.net> Martin Bleisteiner writes: [Quoting myself, but failing to provide an attribution] > >What a strange browser your visitors must be using; an FTP server has no > >capability of sending a Content-Type header, so it's purely a binary (or > >text) stream to the client end. > >A browser has absolutely no right to invent its own concept of a > >Content-Type, *especially* when acting as an FTP client. > > > Every browser gets to know the file name from the server, including the > file ending. The browser may decide what to do with the downloaded file, > dependent on the user settings. Maybe the settings are to open the file > immediately using the default application according to the file ending. > Opera and MSIE do so. It surprises me not one iota that MSIE is "helpful" enough to mislead its users through imagining that the last few characters of a file name might have some particular significance (after all, many viruses and worms rely upon such broken behaviour). However, I am a little surprised that Opera should have joined the great unwashed. Perhaps the OP should tell his/her visitors to cut'n'paste the relevant parts of an ftp:-schema URI into a proper FTP client, and avoid browsers altogether :-( > --------------040404030403020608080404 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Please do not waste everyon'e time and storage by retransmitting identical information in a more prolix format: HTML belongs ONLY on web servers, and not in messages sent to mailing lists or newsgroups. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte." Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/, 1657 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 9 04:26:26 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Gene Angel) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 23:26:26 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42A7B6E2.1040901@whiteshepherd.net> RPO wrote: > I am running W2K Server (NTFS) and I have done some research > concerning directory limitations within the W2K environment and now I > am looking for potential limitations with Xitami. My server will host > potentially 10s of thousands of users. Each user will have the > ability to create their own photo albums and then have photo books > within each album. From a storage standpoint each user will have > their own user directory, that user directory will hold from 1 to 15 > sub directories that will represent the photo albums. Then each photo > album directory will have from 1 to 15 photo book albums. Sorry for > the extensive path below put I wanted to give an accurate > representation of what I am looking to do. The directory tree will > look like this (each numbered directory, ie: 1000, 2000 - will hold up > to 1000 user directories each). The things I am considering are > sub-directory limitations per parent directory and performance issues > for Windows considering the directory structure and then ultimately > Xitami's performance handling the directory structure. Comments?! > > This is the only info I found pertaining to NTFS limitations: > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp but > I am uncertain if I fully understand its implications. > > xitami > - webpages > - albums > - 1000 > - user1 > - photoAlbum1 > -photoAlbum1_book1 > -photoAlbum1_book2 > - photoAlbum2 > -photoAlbum2_book1 > -photoAlbum2_book2 > - user2 > - photoAlbum1 > -photoAlbum1_book1 > -photoAlbum1_book2 > - photoAlbum2 > -photoAlbum2_book1 > -photoAlbum2_book2 > - user3 > ... > - user1000 > - 2000 > - user1001 > - photoAlbum1 > -photoAlbum1_book1 > -photoAlbum1_book2 > - photoAlbum2 > -photoAlbum2_book1 > -photoAlbum2_book2 > - user1002 > - photoAlbum1 > -photoAlbum1_book1 > -photoAlbum1_book2 > - photoAlbum2 > -photoAlbum2_book1 > -photoAlbum2_book2 > - user1003 > ... > - user2000 > - 3000 > - 4000 > - 5000 (5,000 users) > .. > .. > - 100000 (100,000 users) > .. > .. > - 1000000 (1 million users) I hold alot of users/folders under Win2k3 NTFS. NTFS uses a btree (I believe) so it's pretty good on bulky directories. You can increase performance two ways through windows. Use a directory tree index scheme to limit your folder/files per directory or (and I think the bigest performance gain for you) would be windows disk Cache. Windows disk cache comes from "unused" memory so the more free memory you got the more file/directory tables will be able to be held in memory. This lets the system bypass hard drive tables and access directly from RAM which is much faster. My main server has 1 gig of ram and I will upgrade it to 2 before long. Win2k3 also has faster file access then win2k. Gene From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 9 06:59:03 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael diLorenzo) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 01:59:03 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: <42A7B6E2.1040901@whiteshepherd.net> References: <42A7B6E2.1040901@whiteshepherd.net> Message-ID: To second what Gene said, NTFS can handle massive numbers of files per directory. In fact, I'm not sure that there is a limit to the number of files per folder. Technically, the maximum number of files on a single NTFS volume is over 16 billion billion, although WindowsXP imposes a limit of just over 4 billion. I think your issue is going to be performance of NTFS rather than quantity of files. Microsoft recommends disabling short-file name generation if you're going to have more than 300,000 files per folder on an NTFS volume. They provide some information and instruction for this at http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp I would venture to say that your Xitami performance is only going to be limited by the performance of NTFS. Michael On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 23:26:26 -0400, Gene Angel wrote: > RPO wrote: > >> I am running W2K Server (NTFS) and I have done some research concerning >> directory limitations within the W2K environment and now I am looking >> for potential limitations with Xitami. My server will host potentially >> 10s of thousands of users. Each user will have the ability to create >> their own photo albums and then have photo books within each album. >> From a storage standpoint each user will have their own user directory, >> that user directory will hold from 1 to 15 sub directories that will >> represent the photo albums. Then each photo album directory will have >> from 1 to 15 photo book albums. Sorry for the extensive path below put >> I wanted to give an accurate representation of what I am looking to >> do. The directory tree will look like this (each numbered directory, >> ie: 1000, 2000 - will hold up to 1000 user directories each). The >> things I am considering are sub-directory limitations per parent >> directory and performance issues for Windows considering the directory >> structure and then ultimately Xitami's performance handling the >> directory structure. Comments?! >> This is the only info I found pertaining to NTFS limitations: >> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp >> but I am uncertain if I fully understand its implications. >> xitami >> - webpages >> - albums >> - 1000 >> - user1 >> - photoAlbum1 >> -photoAlbum1_book1 >> -photoAlbum1_book2 >> - photoAlbum2 >> -photoAlbum2_book1 >> -photoAlbum2_book2 >> - user2 >> - photoAlbum1 >> -photoAlbum1_book1 >> -photoAlbum1_book2 >> - photoAlbum2 >> -photoAlbum2_book1 >> -photoAlbum2_book2 >> - user3 >> ... >> - user1000 >> - 2000 >> - user1001 >> - photoAlbum1 >> -photoAlbum1_book1 >> -photoAlbum1_book2 >> - photoAlbum2 >> -photoAlbum2_book1 >> -photoAlbum2_book2 >> - user1002 >> - photoAlbum1 >> -photoAlbum1_book1 >> -photoAlbum1_book2 >> - photoAlbum2 >> -photoAlbum2_book1 >> -photoAlbum2_book2 >> - user1003 >> ... >> - user2000 >> - 3000 >> - 4000 >> - 5000 (5,000 users) >> .. >> .. >> - 100000 (100,000 users) >> .. >> .. >> - 1000000 (1 million users) > > > I hold alot of users/folders under Win2k3 NTFS. NTFS uses a btree (I > believe) so it's pretty good on bulky directories. You can increase > performance two ways through windows. Use a directory tree index scheme > to limit your folder/files per directory or (and I think the bigest > performance gain for you) would be windows disk Cache. Windows disk > cache comes from "unused" memory so the more free memory you got the > more file/directory tables will be able to be held in memory. This lets > the system bypass hard drive tables and access directly from RAM which > is much faster. My main server has 1 gig of ram and I will upgrade it > to 2 before long. Win2k3 also has faster file access then win2k. > > Gene > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 9 08:59:32 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:59:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures Message-ID: <60151@dsl.co.uk> In message <5.1.0.14.2.20050608184435.01f5ed10@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Marc Doigny writes: > XP does a lot more than just displaying the files. > For instance, it creates an alternate stream for each image file, > containing a thumbnail of the image. FAT-32 files don't have streams, so > there is less processing involved. Do Microsoft really use the name "stream" for this? It seems an unfortunate (and misleading) ambiguity, given that "streams" already gets used for multi-processing activity [within an application] and also for "the contents of a file in the file system". Surely what you describe here is akin to Mac's "resource fork"? OS/2 (and eComStation) use EAs (extended attributes) for the same functionality. (NTFS still includes support for OS/2 EAs.) > FAT-32 is a leaner file system, but it's less robust, and slower for > directories with lots of files. NTFS suffer less performance degradation > when files are getting fragmented. If Microsoft had stuck with HPFS (to which they still own source rights) instead of inventing the inferior NTFS for their OS/3, there wouldn't be any question of fragmentation, since HPFS avoids it entirely. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte." Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/, 1657 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 9 09:55:49 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Marc Doigny) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:55:49 +0200 Subject: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: <60151@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050609104532.01f6ad20@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> At 09:59 9/06/05, you wrote: >In message <5.1.0.14.2.20050608184435.01f5ed10@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> > Marc Doigny writes: > >Do Microsoft really use the name "stream" for this? It seems an >unfortunate (and misleading) ambiguity, given that "streams" already gets >used for multi-processing activity [within an application] and also for >"the contents of a file in the file system". We (programmers in a windows environment) use the word 'thread' for multiple processing. http://www.powerbasic.com/support/technote/multithreading1.asp Streams on NTFS volumes are something else than extended attributes, they are just an alternate file content. The main file content (the one you see when you open the file in a word processor) is the unnamed stream. http://www.powerbasic.com/support/forums/Forum4/HTML/003677.html Both links contain very intersting info! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 9 11:00:41 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Andris Kluga) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:00:41 +0300 Subject: /Spam/ [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: <953JFHqiT5792S12.1118246899@cmsweb12.cms.usa.net> References: <953JFHqiT5792S12.1118246899@cmsweb12.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <42A81349.7060203@saftehnika.com> John Jonas wrote: > One proviso on this. My experience with XP is that it is extremly slow in > dealing with large numbers of image files on a NTFS formatted volume. > Converting the volume to FAT-32 gets a really dramatic performance > improvement. Hope this helps. http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/50/ When Windows accesses a directory on an NTFS volume, it updates the LastAccess time stamp on each directory it detects. Therefore, if there are a large number of directories, this can affect performance. Andris From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 9 16:42:53 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (RPO) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:42:53 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures References: <42A7B6E2.1040901@whiteshepherd.net> Message-ID: To sum everyone's comments up: 1. NTFS has no limits to the amount of folders and files any given directory can have. - ??? Does XP have the 4 billion issue or is that NTFS? If NTFS than W2K Server will have the problem too, correct? 2. I need to worry about performance . 3. I will have better performance with 8.3 formatting turned off - ??? how/where do I turn 8.3 off 4. Performance will still be an issue, - ??? how else can I optimize performance? more RAM? constant NTFS deframentation? constant HD/Volume defragmentation? 5. Am I to assume that Xitami will only suffer if Windows suffers? There aren't any issues for Xitami handling this kind of directory structure? I will probably have a few more questions. Thanks for all the comments folks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael diLorenzo" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures > To second what Gene said, NTFS can handle massive numbers of files per > directory. In fact, I'm not sure that there is a limit to the number of > files per folder. Technically, the maximum number of files on a single > NTFS volume is over 16 billion billion, although WindowsXP imposes a limit > of just over 4 billion. > > I think your issue is going to be performance of NTFS rather than quantity > of files. Microsoft recommends disabling short-file name generation if > you're going to have more than 300,000 files per folder on an NTFS > volume. They provide some information and instruction for this at > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp > > I would venture to say that your Xitami performance is only going to be > limited by the performance of NTFS. > > Michael > > On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 23:26:26 -0400, Gene Angel > wrote: > > > RPO wrote: > > > >> I am running W2K Server (NTFS) and I have done some research concerning > >> directory limitations within the W2K environment and now I am looking > >> for potential limitations with Xitami. My server will host potentially > >> 10s of thousands of users. Each user will have the ability to create > >> their own photo albums and then have photo books within each album. > >> From a storage standpoint each user will have their own user directory, > >> that user directory will hold from 1 to 15 sub directories that will > >> represent the photo albums. Then each photo album directory will have > >> from 1 to 15 photo book albums. Sorry for the extensive path below put > >> I wanted to give an accurate representation of what I am looking to > >> do. The directory tree will look like this (each numbered directory, > >> ie: 1000, 2000 - will hold up to 1000 user directories each). The > >> things I am considering are sub-directory limitations per parent > >> directory and performance issues for Windows considering the directory > >> structure and then ultimately Xitami's performance handling the > >> directory structure. Comments?! > >> This is the only info I found pertaining to NTFS limitations: > >> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp > >> but I am uncertain if I fully understand its implications. > >> xitami > >> - webpages > >> - albums > >> - 1000 > >> - user1 > >> - photoAlbum1 > >> -photoAlbum1_book1 > >> -photoAlbum1_book2 > >> - photoAlbum2 > >> -photoAlbum2_book1 > >> -photoAlbum2_book2 > >> - user2 > >> - photoAlbum1 > >> -photoAlbum1_book1 > >> -photoAlbum1_book2 > >> - photoAlbum2 > >> -photoAlbum2_book1 > >> -photoAlbum2_book2 > >> - user3 > >> ... > >> - user1000 > >> - 2000 > >> - user1001 > >> - photoAlbum1 > >> -photoAlbum1_book1 > >> -photoAlbum1_book2 > >> - photoAlbum2 > >> -photoAlbum2_book1 > >> -photoAlbum2_book2 > >> - user1002 > >> - photoAlbum1 > >> -photoAlbum1_book1 > >> -photoAlbum1_book2 > >> - photoAlbum2 > >> -photoAlbum2_book1 > >> -photoAlbum2_book2 > >> - user1003 > >> ... > >> - user2000 > >> - 3000 > >> - 4000 > >> - 5000 (5,000 users) > >> .. > >> .. > >> - 100000 (100,000 users) > >> .. > >> .. > >> - 1000000 (1 million users) > > > > > > I hold alot of users/folders under Win2k3 NTFS. NTFS uses a btree (I > > believe) so it's pretty good on bulky directories. You can increase > > performance two ways through windows. Use a directory tree index scheme > > to limit your folder/files per directory or (and I think the bigest > > performance gain for you) would be windows disk Cache. Windows disk > > cache comes from "unused" memory so the more free memory you got the > > more file/directory tables will be able to be held in memory. This lets > > the system bypass hard drive tables and access directly from RAM which > > is much faster. My main server has 1 gig of ram and I will upgrade it > > to 2 before long. Win2k3 also has faster file access then win2k. > > > > Gene > > > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > > -- > Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 9 11:55:22 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:55:22 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] A followup help from lists.xitami.org Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 003BDEB48025701B_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, Could you please let me know how to set this up with the solaris 2.8 platform. Thanks, Bhuvan. On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:42:34 -0500, Dmitry Isakbayev wrote: > >wild guess: the dead sockets aren't recycled by Solaris or not deleted > >fast enough. > > >i had similar problems under OS/2 times ago. > > Do you remember how the problem was resolved on OS/2? socket reuse = off, keepalive < 60 seconds bernd --=_alternative 003BDEB48025701B_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Hello,

Could you please let me know how to set this up with the solaris 2.8 platform.

Thanks,
Bhuvan.

On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:42:34 -0500, Dmitry Isakbayev wrote:

> >wild guess: the dead sockets aren't recycled by Solaris or not deleted
> >fast enough.
>
> >i had similar problems under OS/2 times ago.
>
> Do you remember how the problem was resolved on OS/2?

socket reuse = off, keepalive < 60 seconds

bernd


--=_alternative 003BDEB48025701B_=-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 07:25:29 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Marc Doigny) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:25:29 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami performance regarding directory structures In-Reply-To: References: <42A7B6E2.1040901@whiteshepherd.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050610081119.01f607b0@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> At 17:42 9/06/05, you wrote: >To sum everyone's comments up: > 1. NTFS has no limits to the amount of folders and files any given >directory can have. > - ??? Does XP have the 4 billion issue or is that NTFS? If >NTFS than W2K Server will have the problem too, correct? If you plan to put 4 billion files on one drive, you should first check it's capacity ;) Besides, if you want to provide services to such a huge number of customers, you should use other systems. Some questions that needs adressing: How will the user registration be done? Directing one user to it's directory? Checking it's used disk space? You need a very good scripting language, at least ISAPI or fastCGI What is the purpose of the whole thing? Some sort of file repository (unfrequent access) of picture sharing (bursty activity after return from vacation) ??? Suppose you have 10.000 users, with maximum 100 users online at any moment (the maximal load to ensure fast response). Each user has 10 directories containing 100 files, total 1000 files/user Each file is 250.000 bytes in size (my camera creates 2MB images) Each user will need 250.000.000 bytes, or 250MB. Your 10.000 users will need 2.500GB of storage. You are in need of a very professional package with clustered servers, NAS, redundancy, load balancing, ... Xitami (and to a lesser extend Windows) is not able to provide this. marc ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 09:43:52 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (David Edick) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:43:52 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami Message-ID: I have xitami set up for one domain, I want to add a second domain to be hosted by xitami with different content. how do I need to configure xitami? /David From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 10:43:28 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Marc Doigny) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:43:28 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050610114309.01f57e30@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> At 10:43 10/06/05, you wrote: >I have xitami set up for one domain, I want to add a second domain to be >hosted by xitami with different content. how do I need to configure xitami? RTFM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com ----------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 12:43:38 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (navy nut) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050610114309.01f57e30@verfaillie4.verfaillie.local> Message-ID: <20050610114338.11428.qmail@web60815.mail.yahoo.com> --0-859265399-1118403818=:10611 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It may perhaps, be a greater educational experience, if we informed this gentleman that such a thing is known as a "Virtual Host" or V-Host... Maybe then, he'll know exactly what part of "TFM" he should "R". This is a prime example of what I described in my last post. If he's unable to obtain such basic information HERE, where is he to turn? Rod PS. My advice David, once you've read the Xitami documentation pertaining to V-Hosts, log into your WBC, and use the V-Host Wizard. There's a lot to be learned by observing what it does. Marc Doigny wrote: At 10:43 10/06/05, you wrote: >I have xitami set up for one domain, I want to add a second domain to be >hosted by xitami with different content. how do I need to configure xitami? RTFM __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-859265399-1118403818=:10611 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
It may perhaps,
 
be a greater educational experience, if we informed this gentleman that such a thing is known as a "Virtual Host" or V-Host...
 
Maybe then, he'll know exactly what part of "TFM" he should "R".
 
This is a prime example of what I described in my last post.  If he's unable to obtain such basic information HERE, where is he to turn?
 
Rod
 
PS.  My advice David, once you've read the Xitami documentation pertaining to V-Hosts, log into your WBC, and use the V-Host Wizard.  There's a lot to be learned by observing what it does.
 

Marc Doigny <marc@verfaillie.com> wrote:
At 10:43 10/06/05, you wrote:
>I have xitami set up for one domain, I want to add a second domain to be
>hosted by xitami with different content. how do I need to configure xitami?


RTFM

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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-859265399-1118403818=:10611-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 14:07:05 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ricketts, Layne) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:07:05 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami Message-ID: <118E64323675BE408C22470D8013D06B0694C73B@fangorn.cc.vt.edu> Not very helpful, and that is what support lists are for. What seems simple to those who have done it may not be so obvious to others. Here a few lines from a sample defaults.cfg file. Host1.htm is the default web page and host1 the default folder. [Server] Default1 =3D "host1.htm" Priority =3D "1" Recover =3D "1" Webpages =3D "host1" [Virtual-hosts] Www.host2.com =3D "host2.cfg" The [Server] section of the host2.cfg will contain the info for the second host, the default web page and folder. Put in the appropriate listings for your situation and you should get it going without too much trouble. [Server] Default1 =3D "host2.htm" Priority =3D "1" Recover =3D "1" Webpages =3D "host2" Layne Ricketts -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Marc Doigny Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:43 AM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: Re: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami At 10:43 10/06/05, you wrote: >I have xitami set up for one domain, I want to add a second domain to=20 >be hosted by xitami with different content. how do I need to configure xitami? RTFM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --::Mailserver Verfaillie Bauwens::-- contact : postmaster@verfaillie.com Alle mails gecontroleerd op virussen. Virusdefinities dagelijks aangepast ----------------------- http://www.verfaillie.com -----------------------=20 -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 14:50:13 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ghirlandaio) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:50:13 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] "No input file specified" Message-ID: <42A99A95.9010501@cheapnet.it> I've a problem with Xitami aliases. For example, I have dreated an Alias named "pippo" for a directory "C:\Server\Pippo" e.g. [Alias] pippo=C:\Server\pippo The alias work, because when I navigate "http://localhost/pippo" the browser list the directory, but... For experimental, I put in a simple php file named "index.php": Well, when i navigate ""http://localhost/pippo/index.php" nothing appear, but the error message "No input file specified" What's the solution? Help please! From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 16:20:27 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (navy nut) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050610152027.25680.qmail@web60814.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1521779037-1118416827=:23333 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ME again, Please take a look at this page David: http://tinyurl.com/94u4l Without it, I may never have learned to configure a V-Host. I would never have asked in this forum, for fear of getting the same reply that you did. As I mentioned in my previous post, one of the FIRST most important things to know about setting up multiple domains, is knowing what it's called. If you don't know the actual name of the topic, finding pertinent information is almost impossible. I would love to see someone compile a dictionary of commonly used words and phrases that so often get tossed around in here.....because things don't always need to be as complicated as they are made to sound. Rod David Edick wrote: I have xitami set up for one domain, I want to add a second domain to be hosted by xitami with different content. how do I need to configure xitami? /David __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1521779037-1118416827=:23333 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

ME again,
 
Please take a look at this page David:  http://tinyurl.com/94u4l
 
Without it, I may never have learned to configure a V-Host.  I would never have asked in this forum, for fear of getting the same reply that you did.
 
As I mentioned in my previous post, one of the FIRST most important things to know about setting up multiple domains, is knowing what it's called.  If you don't know the actual name of the topic, finding pertinent information is almost impossible.
 
I would love to see someone compile a dictionary of commonly used words and phrases that so often get tossed around in here.....because things don't always need to be as complicated as they are made to sound.
 
Rod
 

David Edick <mdedick@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have xitami set up for one domain, I want to add a second domain to be
hosted by xitami with different content. how do I need to configure xitami?

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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1521779037-1118416827=:23333-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 19:09:45 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Charles Schmidling) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:09:45 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] "No input file specified" (ALIAS) References: <42A99A95.9010501@cheapnet.it> Message-ID: <001d01c56de7$952aa4c0$6401a80a@comcast.net> Okay, here's a shot in the dark: I've been able to get alias to work. My configuration: (Defaults.cfg) [Alias] photos="D:\Photos" *D: is a mapped network drive, not the server. (reference) src="photos/skyline/album/index.html" You've referenced the info.php file as a foreign file, not as a virtual local file. I've seen where the reference for something "file:/something.ext" for local stuff but never can remember when to use what. All I recall is that using the "http" sent me nowhere. Hope this will can helps your problem a bit. My only problem with the Alias call is while reviewing these photo files (lots) on two different computers (looking on one, moving on another), I appear to have blown out the NetBios connect on the "D" computer. Was viewing a lot of pictures back and forth thru a browser, and moving files directly from another unit. Both wireless, that that shouldn't matter. Got a "no more connections available error" on the viewing computer along with these console errors: 2005/06/04 21:36:43: smttran: cannot open 'D:Photos\skyline\album\Discard\slides\100_0142.JPG' for 'i' 2005/06/04 21:36:43: Invalid argument Re-booting the "D" computer fixed the connection. So, anyone know a fix for what appears to be a NetBios flaw (real, no editorials please). Thanks, Charles Usual suspects: Xitami Server and "D" computer are Win98SEs. Viewer is an iMac Orange (OS X 10.2.8), and manipulator is an old Toshiba laptop with a recent Win98SE install. Running NetBios under TCP/IP. Pulled NetBEUI and found I can talk to the Orange. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ghirlandaio" To: Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:50 AM Subject: [Xitami] "No input file specified" > I've a problem with Xitami aliases. > For example, I have dreated an Alias named "pippo" for a directory > "C:\Server\Pippo" > e.g. > > [Alias] > pippo=C:\Server\pippo > > The alias work, because when I navigate > "http://localhost/pippo" > the browser list the directory, but... > For experimental, I put in a simple php file > named "index.php": > > phpinfo(); > ?> > > Well, when i navigate ""http://localhost/pippo/index.php" > nothing appear, but the error message > "No input file specified" > What's the solution? > Help please! > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 19:34:43 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:34:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami Message-ID: <60170@dsl.co.uk> In message <20050610152027.25680.qmail@web60814.mail.yahoo.com> navy nut writes: > As I mentioned in my previous post, one of the FIRST most important > things to know about setting up multiple domains, is knowing what it's > called. If you don't know the actual name of the topic, finding > pertinent information is almost impossible. Indeed; however, the original exhortation to RTFM can still apply. Sadly, hardly anyone these days bothers to read more than a smidgeon of any documentation before launching into activity (perhaps the correct verb is "floundering") on the grounds that /everything/ in computing is meant to be intuitive. It ain't. When I first start using a new product, I read the /entirety/ of the manual before doing anything with it (and, yes, when I got a VAX back in 1982, I /did/ read all 22 shelf-feet of manuals). By reading a manual (or collection thereof), even if one does not understand all the concepts at first, many bits of jargon are introduced, and better enable one to understand the rest. [Also, I'm blessed with an eidetic memory, so will know after one reading that "the bit about virtual hosts" starts half-way down the right-hand page about one-third of the way through the book.] Reading manuals on the screen don't really help one to understand (although fine for "command reference" type reminders once one is familiar with all the principles), so print out all 400+ pages or whatever and settle down for an evening's reading. Of course, in this day and age we're lucky if there IS a manual with any software product. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte." Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/, 1657 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 23:34:21 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael diLorenzo) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:34:21 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In your xitami directory, create a file called defaults.cfg that contains the following: (If you already have a defaults.cfg, just add this text to it) [Virtual-hosts] www.mydomain1.com = "mydomain1.cfg" www.mydomain2.com = "mydomain2.cfg" www.mydomain3.com = "mydomain3.cfg" Add as many domains as you'd like here. Now, create each of the cfg files for the domains. In each cfg file, you should have (as a minimum): [Server] webpages = "path/to/your/web/pages" Save each of these files, and restart your server. Michael From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 10 14:54:05 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ron Ackerman) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:54:05 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <20050610114338.11428.qmail@web60815.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c56dc3$dddb6340$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> I just rebuilt my server and have this problem. When I run xigui32.exe it runs fine, however when I try to start it as a service using xiwinnt.exe it doesn't load any configuration files. I installed the service via manual install using xiwinnt -i as per the documentation. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 12 00:21:41 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael diLorenzo) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:21:41 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami In-Reply-To: <60170@dsl.co.uk> References: <60170@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:34:43 +0100 (BST), Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > Indeed; however, the original exhortation to RTFM can still apply. > Sadly, hardly anyone these days bothers to read more than a smidgeon of > any documentation before launching into activity (perhaps the correct > verb is "floundering") on the grounds that /everything/ in computing is > meant to be intuitive. It ain't. > > When I first start using a new product, I read the /entirety/ of the > manual before doing anything with it (and, yes, when I got a VAX back in > 1982, I /did/ read all 22 shelf-feet of manuals). By reading a manual > (or collection thereof), even if one does not understand all the concepts > at first, many bits of jargon are introduced, and better enable one to > understand the rest. [Also, I'm blessed with an eidetic memory, so will > know after one reading that "the bit about virtual hosts" starts half-way > down the right-hand page about one-third of the way through the book.] > > Reading manuals on the screen don't really help one to understand > (although fine for "command reference" type reminders once one is > familiar with all the principles), so print out all 400+ pages or > whatever and settle down for an evening's reading. > > Of course, in this day and age we're lucky if there IS a manual with any > software product. > Hey David, you can either spend your time reading this exhortation about an exhortation which doesn't help you accomplish your task, or you can just go and configure your server for multiple hosts following the directions from other posts. :-) Good luck. -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 12 11:40:15 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ghirlandaio) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:40:15 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] "No input file specified" (ALIAS) In-Reply-To: <001d01c56de7$952aa4c0$6401a80a@comcast.net> References: <42A99A95.9010501@cheapnet.it> <001d01c56de7$952aa4c0$6401a80a@comcast.net> Message-ID: <42AC110F.9060405@cheapnet.it> Charles Schmidling wrote:

Okay, here's a shot in the dark:

I've been able to get alias to work.  My configuration:

(Defaults.cfg)
[Alias]
photos="D:\Photos"

*D: is a mapped network drive, not the server.

(reference)
src="photos/skyline/album/index.html"

You've referenced the info.php file as a foreign file, not as a virtual
local file.  I've seen where the reference for something
"file:/something.ext" for local stuff but never can remember when to use
what.  All I recall is that using the "http" sent me nowhere.

Hope this will can helps your problem a bit.

My only problem with the Alias call is while reviewing these photo files
(lots) on two different computers (looking on one, moving on another), I
appear to have blown out the NetBios connect on the "D" computer.  Was
viewing a lot of pictures back and forth thru a browser, and moving files
directly from another unit.  Both wireless, that that shouldn't matter.

Got a "no more connections available error" on the viewing computer along
with these console errors:

2005/06/04 21:36:43: smttran: cannot open
'D:Photos\skyline\album\Discard\slides\100_0142.JPG' for 'i'
2005/06/04 21:36:43: Invalid argument

Re-booting the "D" computer fixed the connection.  So, anyone know a fix for
what appears to be a NetBios flaw (real, no editorials please).

Thanks,
Charles

Usual suspects:
Xitami Server and "D" computer are Win98SEs.  Viewer is an iMac Orange (OS X
10.2.8), and manipulator is an old Toshiba laptop with a recent Win98SE
install.  Running NetBios under TCP/IP.  Pulled NetBEUI and found I can talk
to the Orange.
  
Dear Charles,
I do not understand what's the solutions.
I tried to do exactly like you:

(Defaults.cfg)
[Alias]
phpmyadmin="C:\phpmyadmin"

but ....always "no file input received" !

what is the line below you writed?

(reference)
src="photos/skyline/album/index.html"

And where I have to out it?
 In my php.ini I configured so:

cgi.force_redirect = 0
cgi.fix_pathinfo = 1
register_globals = On

and I also tried to change these values alternatively, but... nothing!

What  do you mean when you say ?
"You've referenced the info.php file as a foreign file, not as a virtual
local file. "
Thanks if you will help me to solve this problem....
Ghirlandaio
From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 12 09:39:25 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Pieter Hintjens) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:39:25 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami In-Reply-To: References: <60170@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <5821ea24050612013955d13db9@mail.gmail.com> All, To configure virtual hosts, you have to know two things. First, what this means and how it works technically. For that, the Xitami manual is pretty detailed and I'd say, yes, RTFM. It's the authoratitive explanation. Second, how to set the server config files to actually make a new vhost. Since there are several options, the advice of others may help. Here is what we do for virtual hosts. 1. create a directory, "vhost", and a subdirectory for each virtual host's home page. 2. create a .cfg file for the virtual host with the name of the domain, defining: [Accesslog] Filename =3D "mydomain.log" [Security] Filename =3D "mydomain.aut" [Server] Webpages =3D "vhosts/mydomain.com" [Wsx] Admin =3D "" Setup =3D "" 3.disable all WBA access for this domain, in mydomain.aut: [/Admin] admin=3D- [/Setup] admin=3D- 4. create an FTP user for the domain to allow uploading of web pages, in ftpusers.aut: [mydomain-] access=3DGPDMR password=3D root=3D/vhosts/mydomain.com 5. define the virtual host in defaults.cfg: [Virtual-Hosts[ mydomain.com =3D "mydomain.cfg" www.mydomain.com =3D "mydomain.cfg" The virtual host wizard does most of this but does not collect virtual hosts under a single directory, which keeps things tidy. After defining a new virtual host, stop and restart Xitami. Make sure the permissions on the vhost directory are correct and upload your pages. -Pieter Hintjens From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 12 09:40:51 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Pieter Hintjens) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:40:51 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <000f01c56dc3$dddb6340$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> References: <20050610114338.11428.qmail@web60815.mail.yahoo.com> <000f01c56dc3$dddb6340$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> Message-ID: <5821ea2405061201404f15bbe2@mail.gmail.com> On 6/10/05, Ron Ackerman wrote: > I just rebuilt my server and have this problem. When I run xigui32.exe > it runs fine, however when I try to start it as a service using > xiwinnt.exe it doesn't load any configuration files. I installed the > service via manual install using xiwinnt -i as per the documentation. It's probably starting in the wrong directory. =20 -Pieter Hintjens From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 13 09:17:09 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Charles Schmidling) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:17:09 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] "No input file specified" (ALIAS) References: <42A99A95.9010501@cheapnet.it> <001d01c56de7$952aa4c0$6401a80a@comcast.net> <42AC110F.9060405@cheapnet.it> Message-ID: <001401c56ff0$4c273800$6401a80a@comcast.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C56FB5.9F282860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry about the confusion, Your settings: (Defaults.cfg) [Alias] phpmyadmin=3D"C:\phpmyadmin" Your previous reference (where c:\pippo was the alias): ...when i navigate ""http://localhost/pippo/index.php" =20 Your statement, in your web page, should have been simply = "pippo/index.php", a simple file reference that allows the original = alias to substitute for "pippo". As an example: refers to a local file = (in your system) without having to resolve an HTTP reference to = wherever. I'm not certain whether an http reference will even use the = alias substituition so you'll be looking for index.php in the pippo = folder of your default directory. SO, your current alias example would be simply referenced as = "phpmyadmin/index.php", without no HTTP. This, I believe, is the common = shorthand reference for a local file. The long way would be something = like file://phpmyadmin/index.php. =20 BTW, > In my php.ini I configured so: >cgi.force_redirect =3D 0 >cgi.fix_pathinfo =3D 1 >register_globals =3D On These settings only deal with php and have nothing to do with the alias. = It could interfere with the viewing of the index.php page, if the = brower sees it. The cgi.force_redirect=3D0 setting was the only = required I had to make for my php application work. Hope that was a little clearer, Charles ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ghirlandaio=20 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org ; dscontroller@comcast.net=20 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [Xitami] "No input file specified" (ALIAS) Charles Schmidling wrote: Okay, here's a shot in the dark: I've been able to get alias to work. My configuration: (Defaults.cfg) [Alias] photos=3D"D:\Photos" *D: is a mapped network drive, not the server. (reference) src=3D"photos/skyline/album/index.html" You've referenced the info.php file as a foreign file, not as a virtual local file. I've seen where the reference for something "file:/something.ext" for local stuff but never can remember when to use what. All I recall is that using the "http" sent me nowhere. Hope this will can helps your problem a bit. [snip]Dear Charles, I do not understand what's the solutions.I tried to = do exactly like you:but ....always "no file input received" !what is the = line below you = writed?(reference)src=3D"photos/skyline/album/index.html"And where I = have to out it? In my php.ini I configured so:cgi.force_redirect =3D = 0cgi.fix_pathinfo =3D 1register_globals =3D Onand I also tried to change = these values alternatively, but... nothing!What do you mean when you = say ?"You've referenced the info.php file as a foreign file, not as a = virtual local file. "Thanks if you will help me to solve this problem.... Ghirlandaio -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: = http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C56FB5.9F282860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry about the confusion,
 
 
Your settings:
(Defaults.cfg)
[Alias]
phpmyadmin=3D"C:\phpmyadmin"
Your previous reference (where c:\pippo was the alias):
Your statement, in your web page, should have been simply=20 "pippo/index.php", a simple file reference that allows the original = alias to=20 substitute for "pippo".
 
     As an example: <a=20 href=3D"pippo/index.php"> refers to a local file (in your system) = without=20 having to resolve an HTTP reference to wherever.  I'm not certain = whether=20 an http reference will even use the alias substituition so you'll = be=20 looking for index.php in the pippo folder of your default = directory.
 
SO, your current alias example would be simply referenced as=20 "phpmyadmin/index.php", without no HTTP.  This, I = believe, is=20 the common shorthand reference for a local file.  = The long way=20 would be something like file://phpmyadmin/index.php.&nbs= p;
 
BTW,
> In my php.ini I configured so:
>cgi.force_redirect = =3D=20 0
>cgi.fix_pathinfo =3D 1
>register_globals =3D On
These settings only deal with php and have nothing to do with the=20 alias.  It could interfere with the viewing of the index.php page, = if the=20 brower sees it.  The cgi.force_redirect=3D0 setting was the only = required I=20 had to make for my php application work.
 
Hope that was a little clearer,
Charles
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ghirlandaio
To: xitami@lists.xitami.org ; = dscontroller@comcast.net =
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 = 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Xitami] "No input = file=20 specified" (ALIAS)

Charles Schmidling wrote:
Okay, here's a shot in the dark:

I've been able to get alias to work.  My configuration:

(Defaults.cfg)
[Alias]
photos=3D"D:\Photos"

*D: is a mapped network drive, not the server.

(reference)
src=3D"photos/skyline/album/index.html"

You've referenced the info.php file as a foreign file, not as a virtual
local file.  I've seen where the reference for something
"file:/something.ext" for local stuff =
but never can remember when to use
what.  All I recall is that using the "http" sent me nowhere.

Hope this will can helps your problem a bit.

[snip]
Dear Charles, 
I do not understand what's = the solutions.
I tried to do exactly like you:

but ....always = "no file input received" !

what is the line below you = writed?

(reference)
src=3D"photos/skyline/album/index.html"
=
And where I have to out it?
 In my php.ini I configured = so:

cgi.force_redirect =3D 0
cgi.fix_pathinfo =3D = 1
register_globals =3D On

and I also tried to change these = values alternatively, but... nothing!

What  do you mean when = you say ?
"You've referenced the =
info.php file as a foreign file, not as a virtual
local file. "
Thanks if = you will=20 help me to solve this problem....
Ghirlandaio
-- Xitami = Users=20 Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe:=20 http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami = ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C56FB5.9F282860-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 13 09:46:23 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Charles Schmidling) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:46:23 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami References: <60170@dsl.co.uk> <5821ea24050612013955d13db9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002001c56ff4$623b8b60$6401a80a@comcast.net> Now that I've gotten good at virtual hosting, to look back at the manual is to see a lot of "oh that's what they were talking abouts." Prior to that, the instructions were confusing in rather subtle ways. Each part may seem simple, but as a whole, it took me a year to get the courage to go for it. The Vhost Wizard actually did the work. I just went in to clean it up and add associated domains. The process is not as self-evident from the front end as it is hind sight and I would suggest a little tolerance and restraint for the newbies. That's what mentors do. And they may help you someday. And yes, I did read the manual. Several times. Even printed the appropriate pages (to print more would be a waste of trees). Took notes. They are called reference manuals for a reason. And I remember those huge green binders that DEC put out for VAX. Neglected reading them but opted for the IBM 360 Error Messages and Codes as my nightstand fare. Put me out faster and didn't weigh as much. Smile folks, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pieter Hintjens" To: Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [Xitami] Secondary domains hosted with xitami All, To configure virtual hosts, you have to know two things. First, what this means and how it works technically. For that, the Xitami manual is pretty detailed and I'd say, yes, RTFM. It's the authoratitive explanation. Second, how to set the server config files to actually make a new vhost. Since there are several options, the advice of others may help. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 13 17:00:51 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:00:51 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <5821ea2405061201404f15bbe2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c57031$12a74e30$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> I might just keep the GUI version running. Before on Win2k it had problems and would crash but now that I am on XP it seems to be stable. -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Pieter Hintjens Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 4:41 AM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: Re: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt On 6/10/05, Ron Ackerman wrote: > I just rebuilt my server and have this problem. When I run xigui32.exe > it runs fine, however when I try to start it as a service using > xiwinnt.exe it doesn't load any configuration files. I installed the > service via manual install using xiwinnt -i as per the documentation. It's probably starting in the wrong directory. -Pieter Hintjens -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 13 22:26:51 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Alex Barna) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:26:51 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <000001c57031$12a74e30$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> References: <000001c57031$12a74e30$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> Message-ID: <42ADFA1B.90902@mn.rr.com> ron@miplanet.net wrote: > I might just keep the GUI version running. Before on Win2k it had > problems and would crash but now that I am on XP it seems to be > stable. What version of xitami are you using? I'm running Version 2.5b4 & get Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Errors often on XP. Alex, -- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 13 23:15:56 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:15:56 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <42ADFA1B.90902@mn.rr.com> Message-ID: <000001c57065$788a1410$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> I have the latest version. -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barna Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:27 PM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: Re: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt ron@miplanet.net wrote: > I might just keep the GUI version running. Before on Win2k it had > problems and would crash but now that I am on XP it seems to be > stable. What version of xitami are you using? I'm running Version 2.5b4 & get Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Errors often on XP. Alex, -- -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 14 08:21:50 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (A.Drent) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:21:50 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <000001c57065$788a1410$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> References: <42ADFA1B.90902@mn.rr.com> Message-ID: <42AEA1A8.13380.19B8C48C@localhost> I have runtime error problems on XP Pro SP2 very often, once every two-three days. The crashes are not reported in the crashlog and automatic recovery fails. I have tried several xitami versions. I didn't know this was a known isue on XP? albert On 13 Jun 2005, at 18:15, ron@miplanet.net wrote: > I have the latest version. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barna > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:27 PM > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org > Subject: Re: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt > > ron@miplanet.net wrote: > > > I might just keep the GUI version running. Before on Win2k it had > > problems and would crash but now that I am on XP it seems to be > > stable. > > What version of xitami are you using? I'm running Version 2.5b4 & get > > Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Errors often on XP. > > Alex, > > -- > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami ----------------------------------------------------------------- Albert Drent Projectleider Rijksuniversiteit Groningen afd. BIV - Bestuurlijke Informatievoorziening Postbus 72, 9700 AB Groningen tel. (+31) 50 363 5377 / Fax (+31) 50 363 2424 Email A.DRENT@bureau.rug.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 14 14:36:53 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:36:53 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <42AEA1A8.13380.19B8C48C@localhost> Message-ID: <000201c570e6$1ffd2540$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> Albert, Haven't had a crash since I rebuilt the PC. Describe your crash, what happens when it crashes, what else is running at the time of the crash? Any idea how many people are on at the time? How many domains do you have running on it? Are you running the FTP portion? Ron -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of A.Drent Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:22 AM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org; xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: RE: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt I have runtime error problems on XP Pro SP2 very often, once every two-three days. The crashes are not reported in the crashlog and automatic recovery fails. I have tried several xitami versions. I didn't know this was a known isue on XP? albert On 13 Jun 2005, at 18:15, ron@miplanet.net wrote: > I have the latest version. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barna > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:27 PM > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org > Subject: Re: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt > > ron@miplanet.net wrote: > > > I might just keep the GUI version running. Before on Win2k it had > > problems and would crash but now that I am on XP it seems to be > > stable. > > What version of xitami are you using? I'm running Version 2.5b4 & get > > Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Errors often on XP. > > Alex, > > -- > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami ----------------------------------------------------------------- Albert Drent Projectleider Rijksuniversiteit Groningen afd. BIV - Bestuurlijke Informatievoorziening Postbus 72, 9700 AB Groningen tel. (+31) 50 363 5377 / Fax (+31) 50 363 2424 Email A.DRENT@bureau.rug.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 14 14:56:32 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (A.Drent) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:56:32 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <000201c570e6$1ffd2540$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> References: <42AEA1A8.13380.19B8C48C@localhost> Message-ID: <42AEFE2A.29393.1B222005@localhost> Hi Ron, Currently I'm running 2.4d11. Xitami pops up with a VC runtime error leaving nothing in the crash log. Although the crash-recovery is on, it simply stops. Haven't been able to intercept the exact error number, but I expect it soon to appear again. I'm not running FTP with Xitami. It simply wasn't stable enough. It caused Xitami to crash too. Below is a small snippet of the crash log conceirning this (I now use ServU which is stable as a rock so far): 08/May/2005:21:03:41 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smttime:Generate-Response-Events:ES6 (Expect-Event, Timer-Event) 10/May/2005:14:42:35 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smtsock:Signal-Read-Complete: (After-Reading, Finished- Event) 23/May/2005:06:25:52 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smttime:Generate-Response-Events:expire old requests (Expect-Event, Timer-Event) 30/May/2005:02:07:30 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smtsock:Send-Timeout-Event-To-Self:ES6 (Getting-Event, No-Activity-Event) 08/Jun/2005:14:16:15 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smthttp:Parse-Http-Request: (Have-Client-Request, Finished-Event) 08/Jun/2005:15:36:36 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smtsock:Send-Timeout-Event-To-Self:ES1 (Getting-Event, No-Activity-Event) the files to be ftp't are aprox. 1mb of size I'm using Xitami in a combined soap/web environment. The soap clients are communicating with a soap cgi through Xitami. The webapplication is running agains an application server. The latest crash occurred during a soap session. At the moment there were no webclients in the system, only one soap user. It occurred after a connection got timed-out and a reconnect was established. I haven't been able to reproduce the problem on our development system. There are no warnings in the applications running below Xitami, nor the client. Xitami just quits with the above message, as it's been doing several times now. The webapplication and soap stuff is written in Borland Delphi 6 sp 3. I know it's a little bit vague. As soon I have more info I get back here. It's just that I like to know if there are know isues with Xitami on XP. I'm using it for years now without any trouble. I have a feeling that it has to do with some lingering connections, but I cannot prove it. Best regards, Albert On 14 Jun 2005, at 9:36, ron@miplanet.net wrote: > Albert, > Haven't had a crash since I rebuilt the PC. Describe your crash, what > happens when it crashes, what else is running at the time of the > crash? Any idea how many people are on at the time? How many domains > do you have running on it? Are you running the FTP portion? > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of A.Drent > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:22 AM > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org; xitami@lists.xitami.org > Subject: RE: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt > > I have runtime error problems on XP Pro SP2 very often, once every > two-three days. The crashes are not reported in the crashlog and > automatic recovery fails. I have tried several xitami versions. I > didn't > > know this was a known isue on XP? > > albert > > On 13 Jun 2005, at 18:15, ron@miplanet.net wrote: > > > I have the latest version. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barna > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:27 PM > > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org > > Subject: Re: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt > > > > ron@miplanet.net wrote: > > > > > I might just keep the GUI version running. Before on Win2k it had > > > problems and would crash but now that I am on XP it seems to be > > > stable. > > > > What version of xitami are you using? I'm running Version 2.5b4 & > > get > > > > Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Errors often on XP. > > > > Alex, > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Albert Drent Projectleider Rijksuniversiteit Groningen afd. BIV - > Bestuurlijke Informatievoorziening Postbus 72, 9700 AB Groningen tel. > (+31) 50 363 5377 / Fax (+31) 50 363 2424 Email A.DRENT@bureau.rug.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 > > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami ----------------------------------------------------------------- Albert Drent Projectleider Rijksuniversiteit Groningen afd. BIV - Bestuurlijke Informatievoorziening Postbus 72, 9700 AB Groningen tel. (+31) 50 363 5377 / Fax (+31) 50 363 2424 Email A.DRENT@bureau.rug.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 14 14:59:36 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (A.Drent) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:59:36 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <000201c570e6$1ffd2540$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> References: <42AEA1A8.13380.19B8C48C@localhost> Message-ID: <42AEFEE1.2704.1B24ED2F@localhost> Just some additional info from the XP logs: Vastgelopen toepassing: xigui32.exe, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen module: xigui32.exe, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00007ac9. Zie Help en ondersteuning op http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp voor meer informatie. best regards, Albert On 14 Jun 2005, at 9:36, ron@miplanet.net wrote: > Albert, > Haven't had a crash since I rebuilt the PC. Describe your crash, what > happens when it crashes, what else is running at the time of the > crash? Any idea how many people are on at the time? How many domains > do you have running on it? Are you running the FTP portion? > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of A.Drent > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:22 AM > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org; xitami@lists.xitami.org > Subject: RE: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt > > I have runtime error problems on XP Pro SP2 very often, once every > two-three days. The crashes are not reported in the crashlog and > automatic recovery fails. I have tried several xitami versions. I > didn't > > know this was a known isue on XP? > > albert > > On 13 Jun 2005, at 18:15, ron@miplanet.net wrote: > > > I have the latest version. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barna > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:27 PM > > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org > > Subject: Re: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt > > > > ron@miplanet.net wrote: > > > > > I might just keep the GUI version running. Before on Win2k it had > > > problems and would crash but now that I am on XP it seems to be > > > stable. > > > > What version of xitami are you using? I'm running Version 2.5b4 & > > get > > > > Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Errors often on XP. > > > > Alex, > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Albert Drent Projectleider Rijksuniversiteit Groningen afd. BIV - > Bestuurlijke Informatievoorziening Postbus 72, 9700 AB Groningen tel. > (+31) 50 363 5377 / Fax (+31) 50 363 2424 Email A.DRENT@bureau.rug.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 > > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami ----------------------------------------------------------------- Albert Drent Projectleider Rijksuniversiteit Groningen afd. BIV - Bestuurlijke Informatievoorziening Postbus 72, 9700 AB Groningen tel. (+31) 50 363 5377 / Fax (+31) 50 363 2424 Email A.DRENT@bureau.rug.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 14 15:21:21 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:21:21 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt In-Reply-To: <42AEFE2A.29393.1B222005@localhost> Message-ID: <000301c570ec$56911a70$0201a8c0@ronscomputer> I would try the latest version if I were you. -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of A.Drent Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:57 AM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org; xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: RE: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt Hi Ron, Currently I'm running 2.4d11. Xitami pops up with a VC runtime error leaving nothing in the crash log. Although the crash-recovery is on, it simply stops. Haven't been able to intercept the exact error number, but I expect it soon to appear again. I'm not running FTP with Xitami. It simply wasn't stable enough. It caused Xitami to crash too. Below is a small snippet of the crash log conceirning this (I now use ServU which is stable as a rock so far): 08/May/2005:21:03:41 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smttime:Generate-Response-Events:ES6 (Expect-Event, Timer-Event) 10/May/2005:14:42:35 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smtsock:Signal-Read-Complete: (After-Reading, Finished- Event) 23/May/2005:06:25:52 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smttime:Generate-Response-Events:expire old requests (Expect-Event, Timer-Event) 30/May/2005:02:07:30 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smtsock:Send-Timeout-Event-To-Self:ES6 (Getting-Event, No-Activity-Event) 08/Jun/2005:14:16:15 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smthttp:Parse-Http-Request: (Have-Client-Request, Finished-Event) 08/Jun/2005:15:36:36 +0100 Xitami/2.4d11 Abort at smtsock:Send-Timeout-Event-To-Self:ES1 (Getting-Event, No-Activity-Event) the files to be ftp't are aprox. 1mb of size I'm using Xitami in a combined soap/web environment. The soap clients are communicating with a soap cgi through Xitami. The webapplication is running agains an application server. The latest crash occurred during a soap session. At the moment there were no webclients in the system, only one soap user. It occurred after a connection got timed-out and a reconnect was established. I haven't been able to reproduce the problem on our development system. There are no warnings in the applications running below Xitami, nor the client. Xitami just quits with the above message, as it's been doing several times now. The webapplication and soap stuff is written in Borland Delphi 6 sp 3. I know it's a little bit vague. As soon I have more info I get back here. It's just that I like to know if there are know isues with Xitami on XP. I'm using it for years now without any trouble. I have a feeling that it has to do with some lingering connections, but I cannot prove it. Best regards, Albert On 14 Jun 2005, at 9:36, ron@miplanet.net wrote: > Albert, > Haven't had a crash since I rebuilt the PC. Describe your crash, what > happens when it crashes, what else is running at the time of the > crash? Any idea how many people are on at the time? How many domains > do you have running on it? Are you running the FTP portion? > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of A.Drent > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:22 AM > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org; xitami@lists.xitami.org > Subject: RE: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt > > I have runtime error problems on XP Pro SP2 very often, once every > two-three days. The crashes are not reported in the crashlog and > automatic recovery fails. I have tried several xitami versions. I > didn't > > know this was a known isue on XP? > > albert > > On 13 Jun 2005, at 18:15, ron@miplanet.net wrote: > > > I have the latest version. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Alex Barna > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:27 PM > > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org > > Subject: Re: [Xitami] xiqui32 vs xiwinnt > > > > ron@miplanet.net wrote: > > > > > I might just keep the GUI version running. Before on Win2k it had > > > problems and would crash but now that I am on XP it seems to be > > > stable. > > > > What version of xitami are you using? I'm running Version 2.5b4 & > > get > > > > Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Errors often on XP. > > > > Alex, > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Albert Drent Projectleider Rijksuniversiteit Groningen afd. BIV - > Bestuurlijke Informatievoorziening Postbus 72, 9700 AB Groningen tel. > (+31) 50 363 5377 / Fax (+31) 50 363 2424 Email A.DRENT@bureau.rug.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 > > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami ----------------------------------------------------------------- Albert Drent Projectleider Rijksuniversiteit Groningen afd. BIV - Bestuurlijke Informatievoorziening Postbus 72, 9700 AB Groningen tel. (+31) 50 363 5377 / Fax (+31) 50 363 2424 Email A.DRENT@bureau.rug.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.1 - Release Date: 6/13/2005 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 15 19:54:37 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Hunter Carroll) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:54:37 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] how do i set up perl support on xitami? Message-ID: <37d671fb050615115460098970@mail.gmail.com> same as the subject: how do i set up perl support on xitami? --=20 Hunter Charles Joseph Carroll huntercjcarroll@gmail.com http://home.nc.rr.com/huntercarroll=20 111111111*111111111=3D12345678987654321=20 ;) ;) ;) From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 15 20:54:00 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Alex Barna) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:54:00 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] how do i set up perl support on xitami? In-Reply-To: <37d671fb050615115460098970@mail.gmail.com> References: <37d671fb050615115460098970@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42B08758.1010009@mn.rr.com> Hunter Carroll wrote: > same as the subject: how do i set up perl support on xitami? From theXitami Help Docs, "Xitami supports CGI programs in Perl, C, or any other language that your system supports. In general, CGI program written for web servers such as Apache and NCSA httpd will run unchanged with Xitami." So you just goto http://www.perl.com/ & download & install the version of Perl that runs on your system. Alex, From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 15 21:04:40 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Hunter Carroll) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:04:40 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] how do i set up perl support on xitami? In-Reply-To: <42B08758.1010009@mn.rr.com> References: <37d671fb050615115460098970@mail.gmail.com> <42B08758.1010009@mn.rr.com> Message-ID: <37d671fb05061513046da6b165@mail.gmail.com> i have perl and i set-up the cgi thing on xitami, but it still doesn't work. i use windows xp home edition On 6/15/05, Alex Barna wrote: > Hunter Carroll wrote: >=20 > > same as the subject: how do i set up perl support on xitami? >=20 > From theXitami Help Docs, "Xitami supports CGI programs in Perl, C, or > any other language that your system supports. In general, CGI program > written for web servers such as Apache and NCSA httpd will run unchanged > with Xitami." >=20 > So you just goto http://www.perl.com/ & download & install the version > of Perl that runs on your system. >=20 > Alex, >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami >=20 --=20 Hunter Charles Joseph Carroll huntercjcarroll@gmail.com http://home.nc.rr.com/huntercarroll=20 111111111*111111111=3D12345678987654321=20 ;) ;) ;) From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 15 21:46:15 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Alex Barna) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:46:15 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] how do i set up perl support on xitami? In-Reply-To: <37d671fb05061513046da6b165@mail.gmail.com> References: <37d671fb050615115460098970@mail.gmail.com> <42B08758.1010009@mn.rr.com> <37d671fb05061513046da6b165@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42B09397.7020704@mn.rr.com> Hunter Carroll wrote: > i have perl and i set-up the cgi thing on xitami, but it still > doesn't work. i use windows xp home edition So do I with Xitami 2.5c1. Run the default htm file that came with xitami & then look at the cgierr.log. If you can't figure what it is telling you post it & someone should be able to figure out what is wrong. The usual problem is file paths so be sure they are correct. Xitami & Perl have problems with the spaces that XP allows in folder names. Alex, > On 6/15/05, Alex Barna wrote: > > > Hunter Carroll wrote: > > > >> same as the subject: how do i set up perl support on xitami? > > > > From theXitami Help Docs, "Xitami supports CGI programs in Perl, C, > > or any other language that your system supports. In general, CGI > > program written for web servers such as Apache and NCSA httpd will > > run unchanged with Xitami." > > > > So you just goto http://www.perl.com/ & download & install the > > version of Perl that runs on your system. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 21 00:44:34 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Magoozi) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:44:34 +1000 Subject: [Xitami] Fw: Help - Xitami problem.. Message-ID: <003b01c575f2$060eb610$80faa4cb@jerome> subscribe xitami Dear Sir/Madam, I use windows XP and I am trying to send an e-mail via a form (CGI). I am testing on a local server using Xitami 2.5c2. All information that is I require is being saved but the e-mail notification (built in to my CGI code), keeps getting the following error. Error 404 Not found -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Server Xitami Version 2.5c2 Name jerome Full URL http://jerome/ HTTP port 80 Protocol HTTP/1.1 Your IP 203.164.250.128 Your browser Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) I am relatively confident that this is beacuse I have the wrong http: or url setting somewhere. I was hoping expert eyes may shorten the problem solving cycle. Please advise what the URL/http setting should be to fix this. I am not sure if this is the problem or that as a local server I do not have a "sendmail" script. I hope I haved provided enough/correct information. Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 21 11:01:29 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ayhan Tuncer) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:01:29 +0300 Subject: [Xitami] Fw: Help - Xitami problem.. Message-ID: Where is this error displayed? Ayhan -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] On Behalf Of Magoozi Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:45 AM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: [Xitami] Fw: Help - Xitami problem.. subscribe xitami Dear Sir/Madam, I use windows XP and I am trying to send an e-mail via a form (CGI). I am=20 testing on a local server using Xitami 2.5c2. All information that is I require is being saved but the e-mail notification=20 (built in to my CGI code), keeps getting the following error. Error 404 Not found ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Server Xitami Version 2.5c2 Name jerome Full URL http://jerome/ HTTP port 80 Protocol HTTP/1.1 Your IP 203.164.250.128 Your browser Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) I am relatively confident that this is beacuse I have the wrong http: or url=20 setting somewhere. I was hoping expert eyes may shorten the problem solving=20 cycle. Please advise what the URL/http setting should be to fix this. I am=20 not sure if this is the problem or that as a local server I do not have a "sendmail" script. I hope I haved provided enough/correct information. Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 21 18:36:13 2005 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian McQueen) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:36:13 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Linux Install Prob Message-ID: <5b3fa8f050621103631b351ec@mail.gmail.com> I've downloaded and attempted to install xitami on my Linux and the build scripts all fail because they seem to be looking for a compiler named "c". Am I missing something here, because the compiler is normally "cc", or a few others, but I've never seen "c" as a compiler name. So what is this "c" thing, and should xitami really be looking for it? Most importantly though is how do I make this install work as intended? Thanks Brian McQueen