[Xitami] xitami and domain name
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Hello Tom,,,, :) :)
OK,,,,GREAT INFORMATION and a lot has gone on since CIRCA 1975,,,,,ARPANET to INTERNET and all those PROTOCOLS, plus how they all work on those Op Sys!!!!
OK,,,I have not yet registered any Domain Names, but I will soon. Once registered these will be deleted from the HOSTS file.
The Router is a Lynksys 8 port Router and works grewat on this LAN with the standard NAT firewall. Using the Lynksys logger and so far all unsolicited Incoming records have been ignored. Going on almost a year now!
As I understand, that is if I understand them correctly (the ISP and Lynksys), the PC with Xitami will require a static IP, plus be set to be exposed to the Internet. By this I think I mean it is not removed from the Router (Lynksys 8 port), but set in the Routers setting for the DMZ as exposed to the Internet.
Not ready to configure yet,,,,,,I will when I get the Domain Name(s) registered with InterNic via some registrar.
If you have any further advise on my understanding that would be great!!! :)
THANKS for your time, help, and advise!!!!
Jerry
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From: jglong3@att.net=20
To: xitami@lists.xitami.org=20
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Xitami] xitami and domain name
Hello Tom, :)
Thanks for your time, help, and advise!!!!
In your Reply for "xitami and domain name" you mentioned the =
following:
"Depending on your network topology, have you=20
checked that Xitami is bound to all IP's?"
I have tried to find out how to "BIND Xitami to all IPs" using =
Searches on the Internet and the Xitami Document, but am not having any =
success.
You correctly set it in your previous message. I just used general =
terms.
Could you please give an example or point me to a link/document that =
describes binding Xitami?
FYI,,,,I am a novice user of Xitami. Just loaded it last week and all =
seems to be working as expected on a LAN using 8 PCs (W95 and W98SE). =
Xitami is on a W98SE and I am learning and testing using the HOSTS file =
at each PC to force Domain Names to the I
P address of the PC where Xitami is installed.=20
Hosts file example:
xx.yy.zz.1 www.abc.com
xx.yy.zz.1 www.def.com
etc.
These are not registered Domain Names and are used for testing. =
However, when Xitami is configured to depend on registerd names via =
Virtual Hosting, I suspect that I will have the same problem as =
described by shing@walla.co.il.=20
I thought that using a registered Domain Name should have worked =
within shing's LAN. If the Domain Name is not in the HOSTS file I =
thought it would be routed to the www database (HOSTS file) at the DNS =
Server which would then route it to shing's IP wher
e Xitami is installed. That is what I thought(????). I have been away =
from the net a long time (circa 1975) and there is a lot I have to =
learn.
It should and does work as you described.=20
BTW,,,,, all my PCs are behind a router with the NAT firewall, so I =
may also have to expose the Xitami PC to the Internet when Xitami is =
configured to start using registerd Domain Names(???).
Thanks again for your time, help and advise!!!
Jerry :)
You can have Xitami behind the firewall. You have to configure the =
router to pass all traffic for port 80 to the PC running Xitami.
Here's how the request process should work:
Someone far away requests www.yourdomain.com. The appropriate DNS =
servers hand back www.yourdomain.com =3D 192.168.0.1 (These addresses =
are made up for this discussion). A request to port 80 of 192.168.0.1 =
for www.yourdomain.com is made, and Xitami returns the webpage.
If you are running more than one domain name on Xitami, Xitami Virtual =
hosts will recognise which domain is being asked for, and supplies it.
So now let's say you want to access the website from inside your =
network. You type is www.yourdomain.com. an appropriate outside DNS =
server hands back www.yourdomain.com =3D 192.168.0.1. Your PC says "Hey! =
That's only one PC away from me!" And connect directly to it.
As you can see, it's exactly the same mechanism for being inside the =
network or outside the network.
So what we are dealing with here is some other problem. If all the above =
works from the outside, but not the inside, it is almost certainly a =
firewall problem.
If you are having problems with both the outside and the inside, it =
could be either DNS not configured properly, firewall not configured =
properly, or Xitami not configured properly.
Hope this helps,
Tom
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<DIV>Hello Tom, :)<BR><BR>Thanks for your time, help, and =
advise!!!!<BR><BR>In=20
your Reply for "xitami and domain name" you mentioned the=20
following:<BR><BR> "Depending on your network topology, =
have you=20
<BR> checked that Xitami is bound to all =
IP's?"<BR><BR>I=20
have tried to find out how to "BIND Xitami to all IPs" using Searches =
on the=20
Internet and the Xitami Document, but am not having any=20
success.<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>You correctly set it in your previous message. I just =
used general=20
terms.</DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><BR>Could you please give an example or point me to a =
link/document that=20
describes binding Xitami?<BR><BR><BR>FYI,,,,I am a novice user of =
Xitami. Just=20
loaded it last week and all seems to be working as expected on a LAN =
using 8=20
PCs (W95 and W98SE). Xitami is on a W98SE and I am learning and =
testing using=20
the HOSTS file at each PC to force Domain Names to the I<BR>P address =
of the=20
PC where Xitami is installed. <BR><BR>Hosts file=20
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example:<BR><BR><BR>  =
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xx.yy.zz.1 =20
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www.abc.com<BR> &nbs=
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xx.yy.zz.1 =20
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www.def.com<BR> &nbs=
p; =20
etc.<BR><BR>These are not registered Domain Names and are used for =
testing.=20
However, when Xitami is configured to depend on registerd names via =
Virtual=20
Hosting, I suspect that I will have the same problem as described by=20
shing@walla.co.il. <BR><BR>I thought that using a registered Domain =
Name=20
should have worked within shing's LAN. If the Domain Name is not in =
the HOSTS=20
file I thought it would be routed to the www database (HOSTS file) at =
the DNS=20
Server which would then route it to shing's IP wher<BR>e Xitami is =
installed.=20
That is what I thought(????). I have been away from the net a long =
time (circa=20
1975) and there is a lot I have to learn.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>It should and does work as you described. </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BTW,,,,, all my PCs are behind a router with the NAT firewall, so =
I may=20
also have to expose the Xitami PC to the Internet when Xitami is =
configured to=20
start using registerd Domain Names(???).<BR><BR>Thanks again for your =
time,=20
help and advise!!!<BR><BR>Jerry :)</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>You can have Xitami behind the firewall. You have to =
configure the=20
router to pass all traffic for port 80 to the PC running Xitami.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Here's how the request process should work:</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Someone far away requests <A=20
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A>. The =
appropriate DNS=20
servers hand back <A =
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A> =3D=20
192.168.0.1 (These addresses are made up for this discussion). A request =
to port=20
80 of 192.168.0.1 for <A=20
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A> is made, =
and Xitami=20
returns the webpage.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>If you are running more than one domain name on Xitami, =
Xitami=20
Virtual hosts will recognise which domain is being asked for, and =
supplies=20
it.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>So now let's say you want to access the website from =
inside your=20
network. You type is <A =
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A>.=20
an appropriate outside DNS server hands back <A=20
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A> =3D =
192.168.0.1. Your PC=20
says "Hey! That's only one PC away from me!" And connect directly to =
it.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>As you can see, it's exactly the same mechanism for being =
inside=20
the network or outside the network.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>So what we are dealing with here is some other problem. =
If all the=20
above works from the outside, but not the inside, it is almost certainly =
a=20
firewall problem.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>If you are having problems with both the outside and the =
inside, it=20
could be either DNS not configured properly, firewall not configured =
properly,=20
or Xitami not configured properly.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Hope this helps,</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Tom</DIV>
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