[Xitami] xitami and domain name
Tom Baker
xitami@lists.xitami.org
Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:11:07 -0500
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From: jglong3@att.net=20
To: xitami@lists.xitami.org=20
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Xitami] xitami and domain name
Hello Tom, :)
Thanks for your time, help, and advise!!!!
In your Reply for "xitami and domain name" you mentioned the =
following:
"Depending on your network topology, have you=20
checked that Xitami is bound to all IP's?"
I have tried to find out how to "BIND Xitami to all IPs" using =
Searches on the Internet and the Xitami Document, but am not having any =
success.
You correctly set it in your previous message. I just used general =
terms.
Could you please give an example or point me to a link/document that =
describes binding Xitami?
FYI,,,,I am a novice user of Xitami. Just loaded it last week and all =
seems to be working as expected on a LAN using 8 PCs (W95 and W98SE). =
Xitami is on a W98SE and I am learning and testing using the HOSTS file =
at each PC to force Domain Names to the I
P address of the PC where Xitami is installed.=20
Hosts file example:
xx.yy.zz.1 www.abc.com
xx.yy.zz.1 www.def.com
etc.
These are not registered Domain Names and are used for testing. =
However, when Xitami is configured to depend on registerd names via =
Virtual Hosting, I suspect that I will have the same problem as =
described by shing@walla.co.il.=20
I thought that using a registered Domain Name should have worked =
within shing's LAN. If the Domain Name is not in the HOSTS file I =
thought it would be routed to the www database (HOSTS file) at the DNS =
Server which would then route it to shing's IP wher
e Xitami is installed. That is what I thought(????). I have been away =
from the net a long time (circa 1975) and there is a lot I have to =
learn.
It should and does work as you described.=20
BTW,,,,, all my PCs are behind a router with the NAT firewall, so I =
may also have to expose the Xitami PC to the Internet when Xitami is =
configured to start using registerd Domain Names(???).
Thanks again for your time, help and advise!!!
Jerry :)
You can have Xitami behind the firewall. You have to configure the =
router to pass all traffic for port 80 to the PC running Xitami.
Here's how the request process should work:
Someone far away requests www.yourdomain.com. The appropriate DNS =
servers hand back www.yourdomain.com =3D 192.168.0.1 (These addresses =
are made up for this discussion). A request to port 80 of 192.168.0.1 =
for www.yourdomain.com is made, and Xitami returns the webpage.
If you are running more than one domain name on Xitami, Xitami Virtual =
hosts will recognise which domain is being asked for, and supplies it.
So now let's say you want to access the website from inside your =
network. You type is www.yourdomain.com. an appropriate outside DNS =
server hands back www.yourdomain.com =3D 192.168.0.1. Your PC says "Hey! =
That's only one PC away from me!" And connect directly to it.
As you can see, it's exactly the same mechanism for being inside the =
network or outside the network.
So what we are dealing with here is some other problem. If all the above =
works from the outside, but not the inside, it is almost certainly a =
firewall problem.
If you are having problems with both the outside and the inside, it =
could be either DNS not configured properly, firewall not configured =
properly, or Xitami not configured properly.
Hope this helps,
Tom
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<DIV>Hello Tom, :)<BR><BR>Thanks for your time, help, and =
advise!!!!<BR><BR>In=20
your Reply for "xitami and domain name" you mentioned the=20
following:<BR><BR> "Depending on your network topology, =
have you=20
<BR> checked that Xitami is bound to all =
IP's?"<BR><BR>I=20
have tried to find out how to "BIND Xitami to all IPs" using Searches =
on the=20
Internet and the Xitami Document, but am not having any=20
success.<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>You correctly set it in your previous message. I just =
used general=20
terms.</DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><BR>Could you please give an example or point me to a =
link/document that=20
describes binding Xitami?<BR><BR><BR>FYI,,,,I am a novice user of =
Xitami. Just=20
loaded it last week and all seems to be working as expected on a LAN =
using 8=20
PCs (W95 and W98SE). Xitami is on a W98SE and I am learning and =
testing using=20
the HOSTS file at each PC to force Domain Names to the I<BR>P address =
of the=20
PC where Xitami is installed. <BR><BR>Hosts file=20
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example:<BR><BR><BR>  =
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xx.yy.zz.1 =20
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www.abc.com<BR> &nbs=
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xx.yy.zz.1 =20
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www.def.com<BR> &nbs=
p; =20
etc.<BR><BR>These are not registered Domain Names and are used for =
testing.=20
However, when Xitami is configured to depend on registerd names via =
Virtual=20
Hosting, I suspect that I will have the same problem as described by=20
shing@walla.co.il. <BR><BR>I thought that using a registered Domain =
Name=20
should have worked within shing's LAN. If the Domain Name is not in =
the HOSTS=20
file I thought it would be routed to the www database (HOSTS file) at =
the DNS=20
Server which would then route it to shing's IP wher<BR>e Xitami is =
installed.=20
That is what I thought(????). I have been away from the net a long =
time (circa=20
1975) and there is a lot I have to learn.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>It should and does work as you described. </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BTW,,,,, all my PCs are behind a router with the NAT firewall, so =
I may=20
also have to expose the Xitami PC to the Internet when Xitami is =
configured to=20
start using registerd Domain Names(???).<BR><BR>Thanks again for your =
time,=20
help and advise!!!<BR><BR>Jerry :)</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>You can have Xitami behind the firewall. You have to =
configure the=20
router to pass all traffic for port 80 to the PC running Xitami.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Here's how the request process should work:</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Someone far away requests <A=20
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A>. The =
appropriate DNS=20
servers hand back <A =
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A> =3D=20
192.168.0.1 (These addresses are made up for this discussion). A request =
to port=20
80 of 192.168.0.1 for <A=20
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A> is made, =
and Xitami=20
returns the webpage.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>If you are running more than one domain name on Xitami, =
Xitami=20
Virtual hosts will recognise which domain is being asked for, and =
supplies=20
it.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>So now let's say you want to access the website from =
inside your=20
network. You type is <A =
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A>.=20
an appropriate outside DNS server hands back <A=20
href=3D"http://www.yourdomain.com">www.yourdomain.com</A> =3D =
192.168.0.1. Your PC=20
says "Hey! That's only one PC away from me!" And connect directly to =
it.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>As you can see, it's exactly the same mechanism for being =
inside=20
the network or outside the network.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>So what we are dealing with here is some other problem. =
If all the=20
above works from the outside, but not the inside, it is almost certainly =
a=20
firewall problem.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>If you are having problems with both the outside and the =
inside, it=20
could be either DNS not configured properly, firewall not configured =
properly,=20
or Xitami not configured properly.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Hope this helps,</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Tom</DIV>
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