[Xitami] Re: Xitami digest, Vol 1 #502 - 1 msg

[Vance Forste]

This is pure file system differences from *NIX to DOS...
Files on *NIX based systems terminate lines with a LF Dec(10) on DOS/Windows
based systems line terminators are expected to be CR/LF Dec(13)/Dec(10).
Notepade shows a single LF not paired with a CR as the little square you
indicate.
The solutions you have mentioned are what is available. Should the author be
including 2 sets of files. I don't see why... A mention of it may be nice
for a newbie but this is something many of us deal with each and every
day...

Hope this is of any help...
Vance



----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter van der Goes" <pvdg@att.net>
To: <xitami@lists.xitami.org>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 7:15 AM
Subject: [Xitami] Re: Xitami digest, Vol 1 #502 - 1 msg


> As I was the original poster of the script example which included the
> "3D"'s, I am very interested in this explanation. At the time, I thought
the
> spurious characters had something to do with me posting in HTML. Long
after
> the original incident, I discovered that all the example files from the
> original source were riddled with "solid black rectangle characters" (when
> viewed in Notepad) which had to be removed before the examples were usable
> in a Win 2000 environment.
> I suspect the mysterious appearance of the "3D"'s in my post and the
> rectangles in the original files are related somehow. The files came
> originally from a Perl book author's web site, and (I believe) were
designed
> to be run on a Unix-based web server. Subsequent to all this, I have
> discovered that many other Perl authors provide separate script file
> downloads for Windows vs. Unix. When I use example scripts designated for
> Windows, I have no problems.
> A colleague and I have discovered that if the original files are run
through
> a utility called Unix2DOS.com, then reversed through DOS2Unix.com, then
> reversed through Unix2DOS.com *again*, the offending characters are
finally
> eradicated and the files are usable. I have also discovered that if these
> original files are opened in WordPad, then saved with File->SaveAs to
force
> an overwrite, the resulting file is "cleansed" and usable on a
Windows-based
> web server.
> I am relating all this in hopes of getting some practical insight on how
the
> files' originator (the book author) could have avoided all this in the
first
> place, as she appears to be as mystified by all this as I am. Should this
> author be offering two sets of files, one for Windows-based web servers,
and
> the other for Unix-based web servers? Is there a better way?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <xitami@lists.xitami.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:01 AM
> Subject: Xitami digest, Vol 1 #502 - 1 msg
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> >    1. Re: Xitami, ActivePerl CGI Scripts Not Working (Brian {Hamilton
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> > Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:39:16 +0100
> > From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly})
> > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> > Subject: Re: [Xitami] Xitami, ActivePerl CGI Scripts Not Working
> > Reply-To: xitami@lists.xitami.org
> >
> > [Following up to a long-dead thread, because (SFAICS) no one bothered to
> > explain what Patricko had been seeing]
> >
> > [Also re-ordering the posts so as to provide meaningful chronological
> > context to question and answer]
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> > In message <017501c2623e$4260cdd0$5fab4044@PATRICKO> "Patricko" writes:
> >
> > > "Peter van der Goes" <pvdg@worldnet.att.net> wrote on
> > > Sunday, September 22, 2002 6:24 AM:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Please tell me what 3D stuff you are referring to?
> > > > >
> > >
> > > This is what is showing in the Xitmai archives
> > >
> > > <html>
> > > <head>
> > >  <title>Animal</title>
> > > </head>
> > > <body>
> > > <form action=3D"animal.cgi" METHOD=3DPOST>
> > > Which animal? <INPUT type=3D"text" name=3D"animal">
> > > <P><INPUT type=3D"submit">
> >
> > [snip further examples of the occurrence of "3D"]
> >
> > The above stems from someone having used "quoted-printable" format when
> > making a posting, and for the archiving software being ignorant of this
> > format, and including the content verbatim.
> >
> > Quoted-printable is sometimes used by some mailers when a character is
> > required in the text that is not "seven-bit clean" (the relevant
> > standards for e-mail on the Internet explicitly state that the content
of
> > messages shall consist ONLY of the characters in the SEVEN-bit ASCII
> > character set, although extensions exist to handle, e.g., characters
with
> > the eighth bit set high).  One of these extension mechanisms is the very
> > crude quoted-printable format; use of this format is generally
> > deprecated.
> >
> > So such characters are sent by their equivalent hexadecimal code for the
> > two nibbles in the octet, preceded by an equals sign.  Thus the code for
> > the British "pound sign" might appear as =A3, since this character has
> > the code 0xA3 (or 163 in decimal)[1].  Since the equals character is
> > hijacked under this mechanism to introduce such triglyph codes for a
> > single character, then occurrences of the equals sign itself will appear
> > encoded, as =3D, since 0x3d or decimal 61 is the ASCII code for the
> > equals sign.  (Messages in quoted-printable will sometimes also have =20
> > appearing at the ends of lines, to indicate that there is actually a
> > space character present there before the end-of-line.)
> >
> > You'll note that this mail does NOT have the requisite MIME header to
> > indicate that quoted-printable characters appear herein, and therefore
> > everyone's mail-readers /ought/ to see the actual triglyph sequences
> > themselves, rather than the character which each sequence represents.
> >
> > [1] Well, that's the code in a widely-used codepage associated with
> > Windows Latin-1 alphabet.  For those of us that use CP437 or CP850, we
> > see a lowercase-letter-u-with-acute-accent, but that's just another of
> > the vagaries of Windows software assuming that everyone is using it, and
> > not including the other requisite headers to permit of automatic
> > translation at the recipent's computer.
> > --
> > Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
> bhk@dsl.co.uk
> >     "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to
one
> of
> >     distributed ignorance.  And we know and understand less while being
> incr-
> >     easingly capable."              Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT
> Labs
> >
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