Re[3]: [Xitami] Yet another crash...this time an error message

[Dave Edick]

I have had several xitami crashes on a pentium 133 running win2000. Of
cource, knowing that the system was probably too slow, I upgraded to an AMD
550 and the crashes don't happen several times a day, but about once a week.
I have a friend who has a pentium 3 450 who says he has crashes every day,
and he is changing to the apatchi software. is there anything that can be
done to minimize crashes under win2k?

-----Original Message-----
From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org
[mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Hogan
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:46 AM
To: Paul Reid
Subject: Re[3]: [Xitami] Yet another crash...this time an error message


Hello Paul,


Possible but I doubt it would be because of AMD, I have been using amd
with xitami for over 5 years....

Monday, November 4, 2002, 11:18:40 AM, you wrote:

>>  so maybe its an amd thing ...anyone out there seeing this on
>> non-AMD machines ?

PR> Yes, at about the same rate: once or twice a year.

PR> My current main server is AMD K6/2 350 and runs very solid in 256M
PR> of RAM. My previous box was Intel P-133 and 32Meg and also ran
PR> solid. I have run Xitami on a 386SX-16 with 4Megs... Win3.11's TCP
PR> stack sucked but Xitami never gave any trouble even on a machine too
PR> lame to surf its own pages.

PR> Don't use any Win9x unless you really know Win9x well. Use one of
PR> the NTs (or of course OS/2 or Unix if you wish).

PR> On NT, NTFS is marginally more stable than FAT.

PR> I agree about not running user-programs on a webserver. Often this
PR> works fine, but sometimes not.

PR> Do not expect the tray-icon version of Xitami to stay up. It does
PR> for some people, but many folks report that it crashes/locks for
PR> them. USE THE NT SERVICE version for any long-running server. I do
PR> use the tray-icon jobbie for quick-checking stuff on my home
PR> machine, but not for any server I am going to walk away from.

>> Can you switch to the service without screwing anything up

PR> I have no idea; never did that. I believe all the CFG files are
PR> identical so it "should" work. But copy your CFG files to a safe
PR> place first. The Service Installer does not always work; drop to a
PR> command line and run the exe manually to see how to Install directly.

>> I recently purchased a "blower" ... supposed to move about 12 cfm
>> of air.

PR> If the machine is truly over-heating, 12CFM is like being in the
PR> desert and fanning yourself with a matchbook. Anything less than
PR> 45-60CFM in a case is wishful thinking.

PR> First find out if the machine IS hot. Set it up exactly as it
PR> normally runs (covers on(*), jammed in a corner, cat laying against the
PR> case vents, whatever) and let it run all morning. Shut-down, rip the
PR> cover off. Keep one hand on the metal case and use the other to
PR> carefully feel around. For a long-running server, I like everything
PR> so un-hot that I could keep my hand on it forever without pain. Once
PR> you know what's hot, you can then begin to think about a fix.

PR> However if Windows is staying up while Xitami locks, it is unlikely
PR> to be CPU overheating (hot RAM is possible).

PR> (*) Some machines run cooler covers-on, some run cooler with
PR> covers-off. No easy way to guess. I have some PPro-200s in service
PR> that are rock-solid covers-on, but cover-off will get flaky in 3 or
PR> 4 hours. So test it the way it normally lives.

PR>  -PRR



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 Hogan                            mailto:hogan@hogansalley.com


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