Hi,

I'm building a small = intranet, for my=20 company and i'm using
Php-Xitami-Access under windows = NT(4).
Everything=20 worked fine, when using with PWS (just for testing). After
migrating = to=20 Xitami, the problems start to begin: first, it was php problems
(i = thought)=20 then i realized that the problem was in this = instruction:
header("location:=20 blabla.php"). Then, running phpinfo(), realized that the
variable=20 HTTP_SERVER_VARS["PATH_INFO"] had no value. (it has a value=20 using
PWS)
tried to put a "/" into all header functions and it = worked=20 "almost" fine...
except the cases where i have my php files under=20 sub-folders... somehow it
causes some problems with session variables = (???) -=20 lost all of them - and i
can't figure out why.
Tried everything i = could=20 imagine... and still no luck...

Could someone bring some light to = this=20 problem?
Thanks in advance.

Hello World

'Re: [Xitami] Using perl cgi on NT' (Jun 4, 14:22) Message-ID: <200106041845.LAA13485@eskimo.com> Matt, Thanks for the suggestion, but that is not an option on my system. But you did get me thinking and I persued another path, literally. It is a perl problem! It does not support spaces in path names. When I moved my cgi-bin directory to a place where it does not have a space in the path name it now works just fine! It is still a long path. d:\xitami\html\cgi-bin Sounds like a perl bug report is coming next. Appreciate you getting me thinking on a different path. Dennis >}On Jun 4, 14:22, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: >} Subject: Re: [Xitami] Using perl cgi on NT > >Try installing perl somewhere simple, like c:\perl > >I had some issues with ActivePerl and NT when it came to long directory >names, or directories with the ~. > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 4 13:37:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Jerry Richer) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:37:48 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Why is my XITAMI server so slow? References: <20010604043431.71666.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a001c0ed41$aef31fc0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> I have four Windows machines running inn a LAN through a 10 Megabit CNET CNIG904B router. The computers all have TCP-IP installed but not NETBEUI. All the computers get their IP address automatically from the router except one that is running XITAMI as an FTP and HTTP server. When I call on the FTP server from outside the network it is painfully slow. It takes ten minutes to download a 3.5 Megabyte file from the FTP server. The network is on a cable modem and I am calling in from outside the network from a computer that is also using a cable modem. Now the network is slow also. It takes me eight hours to transfer 600 Megabyte from one computer to another on the network.. Any idea what the problem is? I realize it's not a XITAMI problem directly but it sure makes the FTP and HTTP servers almost useless. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 02:11:53 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Richards) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:11:53 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Why is my XITAMI server so slow? In-Reply-To: <00a001c0ed41$aef31fc0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> Message-ID: what version of windows ? could you have a dodgy network cable ? are the network calbes less then 90metres long? TCP/IP should work fine.... Are they 10MB network cards or 10/100MB network cards ? if so, are they set to auto-negotiation? Paul -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Jerry Richer Sent: 04 June 2001 13:38 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: [Xitami] Why is my XITAMI server so slow? I have four Windows machines running inn a LAN through a 10 Megabit CNET CNIG904B router. The computers all have TCP-IP installed but not NETBEUI. All the computers get their IP address automatically from the router except one that is running XITAMI as an FTP and HTTP server. When I call on the FTP server from outside the network it is painfully slow. It takes ten minutes to download a 3.5 Megabyte file from the FTP server. The network is on a cable modem and I am calling in from outside the network from a computer that is also using a cable modem. Now the network is slow also. It takes me eight hours to transfer 600 Megabyte from one computer to another on the network.. Any idea what the problem is? I realize it's not a XITAMI problem directly but it sure makes the FTP and HTTP servers almost useless. -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 02:16:39 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Richards) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:16:39 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing In-Reply-To: <000901c0ed0d$26aa59f0$0c02a8c0@dan> Message-ID: That doesn't appear to kill xitami... Just give the template of a blank directory listing, at least that's how it behaves in win2k ;) Paul -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Dan Sent: 04 June 2001 16:44 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing Another Xitami DoS issue ? http://host/../../.././%20/ Shows a directoy listing,,, But got me what of ;) -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 02:28:24 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Richards) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:28:24 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing In-Reply-To: <000901c0ed0d$26aa59f0$0c02a8c0@dan> Message-ID: What is more interesting is how xitami behaves to that request..... http://127.0.0.1 -> returns homepage. http://127.0.0.1/../ -> returns home page. http://127.0.0.1/../%20/ --> returns a blank directory listing of... // supposedly ;) http://127.0.0.1/../%20/../ --> returns home page again. http://127.0.0.1/../%20/../%20/ -> returns a blank directory listing http://127.0.0.1/../%20/../%20/%20/ -> returns 404 not found. 3 different methods of responding.....? Paul -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Dan Sent: 04 June 2001 16:44 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing Another Xitami DoS issue ? http://host/../../.././%20/ Shows a directoy listing,,, But got me what of ;) -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 05:16:46 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dan) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:16:46 +1000 Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing References: Message-ID: <001901c0ed76$55f38380$0c02a8c0@dan> also something like host.com/file.php%20 host.com/file.html%20 throws a You are not authorised to access this resource so it much check for it in different ways host/%20 also brings up that dir list > What is more interesting is how xitami behaves to that request..... > > http://127.0.0.1 -> returns homepage. > http://127.0.0.1/../ -> returns home page. > http://127.0.0.1/../%20/ --> returns a blank directory listing of... // > supposedly ;) > http://127.0.0.1/../%20/../ --> returns home page again. > http://127.0.0.1/../%20/../%20/ -> returns a blank directory listing > http://127.0.0.1/../%20/../%20/%20/ -> returns 404 not found. > > 3 different methods of responding.....? > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Dan > Sent: 04 June 2001 16:44 > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org > Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing > > > Another Xitami DoS issue ? > > http://host/../../.././%20/ > > Shows a directoy listing,,, But got me what of ;) > > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 06:15:02 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ethereal Being) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] device/device issue again ... In-Reply-To: <001901c0ed76$55f38380$0c02a8c0@dan> Message-ID: <20010605051502.21180.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Hi guys, this is my first time on this mailing list. wish to find out the ultimate solution for the device/device issue with xitami on win95/98 1) i've installed the patch from Microsoft 2) but whenever i try http://server/con/con/lpt1 or other DOS device/device, xitami dies. i tried to set aliases for these paths, but the possibilities are endless .... pls help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 11:28:11 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:28:11 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] mailing on NT In-Reply-To: <3B1C11AC.9010303@freesbee.fr> Message-ID: <3B1CD05B.121.1A242F77@localhost> On 4 Jun 2001, at 18:54, Francis Turner wrote: > > > Dragonballz Insane wrote: > > > I had a question on a perl program, I was trying to > > figure out how to use a form which the user puts info > > onto a html page and then sends it through perl. I > > need to know if Xitami has a sendmail program or what > > I should use to fix the $mailprog = '/usr/lib/sendmail' > > Xitam does not have a built-in sendmail program. > > ..or you try blat: package Blat; use strict; my($mailer, $server, $Subject, $From, $To, $message); $server = "somemailer";# o.s.e $Subject = "testing blat"; $From = "you\@somewhere.net"; $To = "to\@somewhere.net"; $message = "Hello blat !"; $mailer = "blat - -server $server -f $From -t $To -s \"$Subject\""; $ENV{"TMP"} = "C:\\TEMP"; open (MAIL, "|$mailer ")or die "Oh shit: $!"; print MAIL $message; close (MAIL); =cut Blat v1.8.2b: WinNT/95 console utility to mail a file via SMTP by P.Mendes, M.Neal, G.Vollant, T. Charron http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/blat.html syntax: Blat -t [optional switches (see below)] Blat -install [[[]]] [-q] Blat -profile [-delete | ""] [profile1] [profileN] [-q] Blat -h [-q] -install [ [ []]] : set's SMTP server, sender, number of tries and port for profile ( and may be replaced by '-'). : file with the message body ('-' for console input, end with ^Z) -t : recipient list (comma separated) -s : subject line -f : overrides the default sender address (must be known to server) -i : a 'From:' address, not necessarily known to the SMTP server. -c : carbon copy recipient list (comma separated) -b : blind carbon copy recipient list (comma separated) -o : Organization field -h : displays this help. -q : supresses *all* output. -noh : prevent X-Mailer header from showing homepage of blat -noh2 : prevent X-Mailer header entirely -p : send with SMTP server, user and port defined in . -server : Specify SMTP server to be used. (optionally, addr:port) -port : port to be used on the server, defaults to SMTP (25) -hostname : select the hostname used to send the message -mime : MIME Quoted-Printable Content-Transfer-Encoding. -uuencode : Send (binary) file UUEncoded -base64 : Send (binary) file using base64 (binary Mime) -try : how many time blat should try to send. from '1' to 'INFINITE' -attach : attach binary file to message (may be repeated) -attacht : attach text file to message (may be repeated) Note that if the '-i' option is used, is included in 'Reply-to:' and 'Sender:' fields in the header of the message. =end ...or you use MIME::Lite ; in this case adding and compressing an attachment: package myMailTool; use MIME::Lite; use Cwd; use strict; my($dir,$path,$text,$msg,$From,$To,$Subject,$mailhost,$type,$su ffix); $mailhost = "somemailer"; $dir = shift; $From = 'you@somewhere.net'; $To = 'to@somewhere.net'; $Subject = 'attachment'; $path = getcwd; $type = 'application/octet-stream'; $text = "someText\n"; $suffix = "\.tar\.gz"; if(!$dir){die "Shit, no directory! $!"} `tar cvf $dir.tar $dir`; `gzip --best $dir.tar`; MIME::Lite -> send('smtp', $mailhost, Timeout => 60); $msg = MIME::Lite -> new(From => $From, To => $To, Subject => $Subject, Data => $text); $msg -> attach(Type => $type, Path => "$path\/$dir$suffix "); $msg -> send; undef $msg; yours, Peter From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 16:23:31 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:23:31 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 Message-ID: <200106051523.DAA21341@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Xitami Lives! Long Live Xitami! -------------------------------- Rumours of Xitami's demise have been greatly exaggerated. "It's just been sleeping" said iMatix CEO, Pieter Hintjens. When questioned he admited that Xitami was a rather deep sleeper. Yes folks, it's Xitami release time again. Xitami 2.4d9 production version and Xitami 2.5b5 beta version ------------------------------------------------------------- New versions of Xitami are now available from www.xitami.com. Get them while they are hot. Xitami 2.4d9 is now the current production release. Changes since Xitami 2.4d7 (Xitami 2.4d8 has been skipped due to version numbering confusion): - A more thorough fix for the "Windows Device Names" denial-of-service problem reported by neme-dhc@hushmail.com to Bugtraq. - The Windows GUI and NT Service versions are now open source. The source code is included in the source archives at www.xitami.com. - LRWP binary/large files fixes We strongly recommend sites hosting with Xitami on Windows upgrade to Xitami 2.4d9 (after making suitable backups of their existing system). Xitami 2.5b5 is now the current "beta testing" version that includes GSL, a built SSI handler, and more. Changes since Xitami 2.4b5: - A more thorough fix for the "Windows Device Names" denial-of-service problem reported by neme-dhc@hushmail.com to Bugtraq. - The Windows GUI and NT Service versions are now open source. The source code is included in the source archives at www.xitami.com. - LRWP binary/large files fixes - The NT Service version should be back "in sync" with the other versions, and not suffer from the confusion over "templates or schemas". Xitami 2.5b5 is NOT recommended for production use. It is intended only for experimentation with the new features. If pain persists, take two aspirin and call the doctor in the morning. We have had reports of problems that will cause Xitami 2.5 to crash, including malformed SSI pages. Take care out there. Look both ways when crossing the street. However if you want to experiment, we recommend experimenting with Xitami 2.5b5 rather than earlier 2.5 versions. All your favourite bugs lovingly preserved ------------------------------------------ The updates listed above are the only updates that have been made. "All your other favourite bugs have been lovingly preserved" said iMatix CEO, Pieter Hintjens. "We had developers working night and day to ensure your favourite bug survived." This version is the "fix that Windows device names Denial-of-Service problem, and get everything back in sync" release. We hope it will be a safe "drop in" replacement for the existing versions with no hidden surprises: if it worked before it should work now, and if it was broken before it should still be broken now. We recommend you make a back up before installing the new version, just in case. Computers are good at finding surprises where none existed before. -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 16:30:50 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (david) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:30:50 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 References: <200106051523.DAA21341@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <3B1CFB2A.6DD6E408@evernet.net> open source...does that mean anyone can start helping add new features to Xitami??? like ISAPI support??? :-) david -- "You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we don't know where the heck she is." From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 16:45:31 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:45:31 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from david of "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:30:50 MST." <3B1CFB2A.6DD6E408@evernet.net> Message-ID: <200106051545.DAA21815@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3B1CFB2A.6DD6E408@evernet.net>, david writes: >open source...does that mean anyone can start helping add >new features to Xitami??? like ISAPI support??? :-) Xitami's always been open source, and we welcome contributions of new features, code, etc. Some parts of some versions of Xitami are "value added" extras, and were closed source -- the Windows GUI/NT Service portions used to be "value added" closed source extras. But they're now open source too. The Xitami/Pro SSL support is still closed source, as the (small) revenue from it helps fund Xitami development. But we're trying to make the source available for as many of the other bits as is practical. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 16:46:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:46:57 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] device/device issue again ... In-Reply-To: Message from Ethereal Being of "Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:15:02 MST." <20010605051502.21180.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200106051546.DAA21878@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <20010605051502.21180.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com>, Ethereal Being writes: >1) i've installed the patch from Microsoft >2) but whenever i try http://server/con/con/lpt1 or > other DOS device/device, xitami dies. The "ultimate" fix should be Xitami 2.4d9 (just released); this includes more thorough code to check for Windows device names being opened and reject them. Download it from http://www.xitami.com/ and see how you get on. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 16:48:42 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:48:42 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing In-Reply-To: Message from "Dan" of "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 01:43:50 +1000." <000901c0ed0d$26aa59f0$0c02a8c0@dan> Message-ID: <200106051548.DAA21947@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <000901c0ed0d$26aa59f0$0c02a8c0@dan>, "Dan" writes: >Another Xitami DoS issue ? >http://host/../../.././%20/ If Xitami keeps on serving up webpages like normal, then it's not a denial-of-service :-) However it might be a bug. If I understand you correctly you're saying that an (encoded) space as the last element of the path name gives you a directory listing. Do you have directory listings enabled? Which directory is it that is listed? Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 17:48:21 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (bernd hohmann) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:48:21 +0100 (MEZ) Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: <200106051523.DAA21341@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <200106051548.RAA19033@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com> On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:23:31 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: > Xitami 2.5b5 is now the current "beta testing" version that includes > GSL, a built SSI handler, and more. Changes since Xitami 2.4b5: is my the quickhack for the VHost problem incoperated or should i better stay on my self-destilled stuff ? bernd From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 16:55:05 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:55:05 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Why is my XITAMI server so slow? In-Reply-To: Message from "Jerry Richer" of "Mon, 04 Jun 2001 08:37:48 -0400." <00a001c0ed41$aef31fc0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <200106051555.DAA22156@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <00a001c0ed41$aef31fc0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net>, "Jerry Richer" wri tes: >and HTTP server. When I call on the FTP server from outside the network it >is painfully slow. It takes ten minutes to download a 3.5 Megabyte file >from the FTP server. The network is on a cable modem and I am calling in >from outside the network from a computer that is also using a cable modem. Most cable modems I've seen are fast for "downloads" (from the Internet to you), and slow for "uploads" (from you to the Internet). This makes them poorly suited to hosting FTP/HTTP servers. ADSL has the same problem. A common speed for the upload side is 128Kbps, which means 16KB/s. Okay, if you're just sending a request "get me this", but not okay if you've got to send a large file. Your 10-minutes, 3.5MB indicates a speed of about 6KB/s, or 48Kbps. Perhaps the maximum is 64Kbps; or perhaps your cable is busy. (With cable you often share the upload speed with others, and sometimes the download speed too.) >I realize it's not a XITAMI problem directly but it sure makes >the FTP and HTTP servers almost useless. You can eliminate Xitami from the problem by testing on the LAN; it should be plenty fast there. If that's the case, then you need to find out what upload speed your cable connection has, and maybe try to increase it. (With the cable I have, the default is 64Kbps or 128Kbps upload, but you can get faster upload speeds by paying more.) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 16:56:29 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:56:29 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Using perl cgi on NT In-Reply-To: Message from wix@eskimo.com (Dennis G. Wicks) of "Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:06:14 MST." <200106041806.LAA10841@eskimo.com> Message-ID: <200106051556.DAA22178@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200106041806.LAA10841@eskimo.com>, Dennis G. Wicks writes: >I have tried every permutation that I can think of and I can't get the >testperl.pl to work. I have ActivePerl very new release and here is the code >[....] >I am sure it is something simple, but I am not seeing it. >Anybody have any ideas? Your Perl looks basically okay. Try checking cgierr.log to see if any errors are reported from trying to run the CGI. My guess from your description is that there will be some reported. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 17:16:26 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Joseph Saunders) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 09:16:26 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] device/device issue again ... Message-ID: <64DB6640B57B4C4B97F5E2A7902494170AB7EA@cawhqexch01.caw.com> Hello, Where can i get the 2.4d9 source kit for UNIX/LINUX ??? I go to the download sites and see only 2.4d7 an 2.5d* source kits.... thanks -Joe Joe Saunders Caw Networks jsaunders@caw.com -----Original Message----- From: Ewen McNeill [mailto:ewen@imatix.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:47 AM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: Re: [Xitami] device/device issue again ... In message <20010605051502.21180.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com>, Ethereal Being writes: >1) i've installed the patch from Microsoft >2) but whenever i try http://server/con/con/lpt1 or > other DOS device/device, xitami dies. The "ultimate" fix should be Xitami 2.4d9 (just released); this includes more thorough code to check for Windows device names being opened and reject them. Download it from http://www.xitami.com/ and see how you get on. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 17:24:54 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 04:24:54 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from "bernd hohmann" of "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:48:21 +0100." <200106051548.RAA19033@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com> Message-ID: <200106051624.EAA22667@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200106051548.RAA19033@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com>, "bernd hohmann" wr ites: >On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:23:31 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: >> Xitami 2.5b5 is now the current "beta testing" version that includes >> GSL, a built SSI handler, and more. Changes since Xitami 2.4b5: > >is my the quickhack for the VHost problem incoperated or should >i better stay on my self-destilled stuff ? There're no fixes in there other than the ones listed; which includes your hack for the VHost problem, etc. Ie stick with your own version for now. Basically we wanted to sort out the build system here again (it was scattered across a few people's PCs, and is now neatly in our source control system), and fix the Windows DoS. Also somewhere between 2.4d7 and 2.4d9 (and 2.5b4 and 2.5b5) we've retired all our OS/2 machines, so don't actually have a way to build an OS/2 binary! (Hence the website dosen't have an updated OS/2 binary version; just updated source for OS/2. Fortunately due to the difference in code to handle device names in OS/2 and Windows, the problem didn't really affect OS/2 much.) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 17:41:42 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 04:41:42 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] device/device issue again ... In-Reply-To: Message from "Joseph Saunders" of "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:16:26 MST." <64DB6640B57B4C4B97F5E2A7902494170AB7EA@cawhqexch01.caw.com> Message-ID: <200106051641.EAA22902@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <64DB6640B57B4C4B97F5E2A7902494170AB7EA@cawhqexch01.caw.com>, "Joseph Saunders" writes: >Where can i get the 2.4d9 source kit for UNIX/LINUX ??? >I go to the download sites and see only 2.4d7 an 2.5d* source kits.... http://www.xitami.com./download.htm lists suni24d9.tgz as available for download; I've just downloaded it to make sure it's available. You may need to force your browser refresh the page to see the updated download page. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 17:47:02 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 04:47:02 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from "Dan" of "Sun, 06 May 2001 02:28:33 +1000." <000a01c0d580$6d9f9900$0c02a8c0@dan> Message-ID: <200106051647.EAA23071@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <000a01c0d580$6d9f9900$0c02a8c0@dan>, "Dan" writes: >HUMM bug allreaddy ;) > >Webadmin says >06 May, 2001 02:26 > Xitami v2.5b4 >NOT > Xitami v2.5b5 Ah yes, the famous "what version are we" gremlins. I'll have to investigate further where it got 2.5b4 from. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 19:56:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dennis G. Wicks) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:56:57 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Using perl cgi on NT In-Reply-To: Ewen McNeill 'Re: [Xitami] Using perl cgi on NT' (Jun 6, 3:56) Message-ID: <200106051656.JAA14436@eskimo.com> Greetings; Yes, there were errors in the log. Exactly as I would expect from what I discovered yesterday after Matt started me thinking in a different direction. Perl is passed the full path to the cgi script, and that had a space in it. OK for windows, not OK for perl! And thanks to Xitami's ability to be reconfigured almost as fast as you can click the mouse, I found out a few other interesting things. Unlike a well known server Xitami doesn't care what the script name is. (The other server requires a cgi extension in some configurations.) And, perl will accept any valid windows path, except for the above problem ... No Spaces! Verylongdirectorynames and very.long.file.names cause no problem. There may be a max length path restriction but I did not encounter it. Happy Xitami-ing! Dennis From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 18:24:06 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (=?ISO-8859-1?B?VXdlIFL2aGw=?=) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:24:06 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: <200106051523.DAA21341@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> References: <200106051523.DAA21341@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <1429208901.20010605192406@student.uni-magdeburg.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I'm running Xitami 2.5b5 (WinNT service) with Win2kSrv SP2 and I think I've found a bug in new Xitami 2.5b5: When you try to disable web-based admin by setting [security] admin=0 in defaults.cfg, it remains fully functional. You have to set "webmask=" to disable it. Can someone confirm this bug? PS: Xitami 2.4d9 gives #501 using same config - -- CU - Uwe R�hl proud owner of KANNIX - http://www.kannix.net MailTo:uwe.roehl@student.uni-magdeburg.de or justme@kannix.net � -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOx0HwsBvk0h9/QU7EQIXogCgqQNtUaO41yMbWGyBZdIncBEh5/4AnjZQ Gacy9vMPYbHGPO/qP1q3TQeK =ZWwR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 20:00:11 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:00:11 +1000 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 References: <200106051647.EAA23071@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <000701c0edf1$bf6ff2a0$0c02a8c0@dan> > >HUMM bug allreaddy ;) > > > >Webadmin says > >06 May, 2001 02:26 > > Xitami v2.5b4 > >NOT > > Xitami v2.5b5 > > Ah yes, the famous "what version are we" gremlins. I'll have to > investigate further where it got 2.5b4 from. LOL Its happend a few times now sence i said it should be added to wba ;) (versions and versions ago) From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 20:05:55 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:05:55 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 References: <200106051523.DAA21341@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <3B1D2D93.4094F394@rci.rutgers.edu> > New versions of Xitami are now available from www.xitami.com. > Xitami 2.4d9 is now the current production release. http://www.imatix.com/html/xitami/index2.htm -still- says "Current Production Release - 2.5b4" and links to files like "bs3225b4.exe". The "Vanilla" "32-bit Windows console package" version is "bc3225b4.exe"; the "NT service package" is "bs3225b4.exe" That's just a bad listing on the Imatix site. If I follow to the directory these links point to, which is really http://users.skynet.be/sky37432/ , I see 2.4d7 Yes, I'm flushing my browser to see the current pages. Guessing the new file names, I tried for http://users.skynet.be/sky37432/bc3224b9.exe - Not Found. So where do I find 2.4d9 ? AH-HA ! You mean go to http://www.xitami.com, not www.imatix.com ? There I see 2.4d9; http://users.skynet.be/sky37432/bs3224d9.exe for NT Service. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 5 20:06:13 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:06:13 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 References: <200106051523.DAA21341@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <3B1CFB2A.6DD6E408@evernet.net> Message-ID: <3B1D2DA5.80AC047E@rci.rutgers.edu> > does that mean anyone can start helping add new features to Xitami??? That's been true for a while. Weren't you around when Ewen and I were taking about what it takes to compile Xitami under Windows? At that time, the GUI and Service frills were not Open, but even I (an utter C-idiot) was able to compile a version that ran on command and served. And I was able to make "trivial" changes, compile, and see them run. (Making the non-trivial change I wanted to try taxed my pea-brain, and I lost interest.) -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 01:00:00 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Richards) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:00:00 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing In-Reply-To: <200106051548.DAA21947@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: Ewen..... in ascii text format.... copied/pasted from default install.... the directory listing showing below.... so it's of the "/ /" directory. ;) Paul / / ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Name Size Modified ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Powered by Xitami! -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Ewen McNeill Sent: 05 June 2001 16:49 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: Re: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing In message <000901c0ed0d$26aa59f0$0c02a8c0@dan>, "Dan" writes: >Another Xitami DoS issue ? >http://host/../../.././%20/ If Xitami keeps on serving up webpages like normal, then it's not a denial-of-service :-) However it might be a bug. If I understand you correctly you're saying that an (encoded) space as the last element of the path name gives you a directory listing. Do you have directory listings enabled? Which directory is it that is listed? Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 01:21:06 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ethereal Being) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] device/device issue again ... In-Reply-To: <200106051546.DAA21878@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <20010606002106.84233.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> hey, no more device/device bugs in Xitami! hurray! As have been discovered by most Xitami users, we hope that future bug fixes/releases will no longer have a bug reporting the wrong version ;-) (v2.5b4 instead of v2.5b5) --- Ewen McNeill wrote: > In message > <20010605051502.21180.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com>, > Ethereal Being > writes: > >1) i've installed the patch from Microsoft > >2) but whenever i try http://server/con/con/lpt1 > or > > other DOS device/device, xitami dies. > > The "ultimate" fix should be Xitami 2.4d9 (just > released); this includes > more thorough code to check for Windows device names > being opened and > reject them. Download it from > http://www.xitami.com/ and see how you > get on. > > Ewen > > -- > Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix > Corporation www.imatix.com > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 06:12:42 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dragonballz Insane) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20010606002106.84233.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010606051242.92779.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> I know this isn't an Xitami question but its a follow up does anyone know where to find a good sendmail program for windows 98? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 06:48:58 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:48:58 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from Paul Reid of "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:05:55 -0400." <3B1D2D93.4094F394@rci.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <200106060548.RAA28184@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3B1D2D93.4094F394@rci.rutgers.edu>, Paul Reid writes: >> New versions of Xitami are now available from www.xitami.com. >> Xitami 2.4d9 is now the current production release. > > http://www.imatix.com/html/xitami/index2.htm -still- says "Current Production >Release - 2.5b4" and links to files like "bs3225b4.exe". You'll notice I said "are now available from www.xitami.com" :-) The imatix.com site hasn't been updated yet, and when it is, it's likely that "Xitami" there will just become a link to the xitami.com site. (The iMatix site probably won't be updated until the rest of the content for it is ready, which is still a while off, alas.) Sorry for any confusion. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 09:47:20 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ethereal Being) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20010606051242.92779.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010606084720.62676.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> you might want to visit this page: http://www.discusware.com/support/resources/windows/blat.html --- Dragonballz Insane wrote: > I know this isn't an Xitami question but its a > follow > up does anyone know where to find a good sendmail > program for windows 98? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - > only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 10:56:22 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (bernd hohmann) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:56:22 +0100 (MEZ) Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: <200106051624.EAA22667@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <200106060856.KAA23460@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com> On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 04:24:54 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: > Also somewhere between 2.4d7 and 2.4d9 (and 2.5b4 and 2.5b5) we've > retired all our OS/2 machines, so don't actually have a way to build an > OS/2 binary! (Hence the website dosen't have an updated OS/2 binary > version; just updated source for OS/2. Fortunately due to the > difference in code to handle device names in OS/2 and Windows, the > problem didn't really affect OS/2 much.) no problem. i'll grab the sources and build a os/2 version next week. i is ok to send you the exe only and you put it into the right archive ? bernd From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 10:15:05 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 21:15:05 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from "bernd hohmann" of "Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:56:22 +0100." <200106060856.KAA23460@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com> Message-ID: <200106060915.VAA30637@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200106060856.KAA23460@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com>, "bernd hohmann" writes: >On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 04:24:54 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: >> Also somewhere between 2.4d7 and 2.4d9 (and 2.5b4 and 2.5b5) we've >> retired all our OS/2 machines, so don't actually have a way to build an >> OS/2 binary! > >no problem. i'll grab the sources and build a os/2 version next >week. i is ok to send you the exe only and you put it into the right archive ? Sure, if you could do that, it'd be great. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 10:50:24 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 21:50:24 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] device/device issue again ... In-Reply-To: Message from Ethereal Being of "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:21:06 MST." <20010606002106.84233.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200106060950.VAA30842@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <20010606002106.84233.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com>, Ethereal Being writes: >As have been discovered by most Xitami users, we hope >that future bug fixes/releases will no longer have a >bug reporting the wrong version ;-) (v2.5b4 instead of v2.5b5) I've been hoping that myself for the last several versions. Alas, there are too many places where the version number is set (> 1) which seems to inevitably cause this problem. One of the things I'm hoping to do is make all the version numbers come from one place, which should hopefully simply things. Meanwhile I've rebuilt the source/executables with 2.4d9/2.5b5 in the WBA pages and uploaded them. Anyone who is particularly fussed can grab the new version. Otherwise hang onto those "2.4d9/2.4d7" and "2.5b5/2.5b4" versions -- they'll be collectors items sometime! Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 15:18:52 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:18:52 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] vhosts: cycle log In-Reply-To: Message from "bernd hohmann" of "Mon, 14 May 2001 03:09:00 EST." <200105140708.f4E789V15698@www.ecdiscounts.com> Message-ID: <200106061418.CAA01694@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200105140708.f4E789V15698@www.ecdiscounts.com>, "bernd hohmann" writ es: >On Fri, 11 May 2001 09:19:37 -0500, Ewen McNeill wrote: >> IIRC you need to set filename, cycle, and cycle-arg, and you need to >> make sure all the things exist for it to do so. If in doubt try turning >> on the debugging logs -- I've generally found there's a "rename" error >> around the point the cycling should have happened when it doesn't work. > >the "funny" thing is: if i change the date of the operating >system manually, the log-thread will rename the files. Curious. I suspect there's got to be something with the way that Xitami is tracking the time (setting an alarm and waiting for a signal in all the released versions). Possibly the way this is handled under OS/2 is more prone to trouble than under some other operating systems. Is anyone else having trouble with log cycling in 2.5b4/2.5b5 where there are no "rename error"s mentioned in the log file? Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 15:52:30 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:52:30 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] FREEZE WINOLDAP DISPLAYED WIN98 In-Reply-To: Message from of "Sun, 27 May 2001 18:14:00 GMT." <200105271814.f4RIDxt17294@voyager.bestway.com.br> Message-ID: <200106061452.CAA02343@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200105271814.f4RIDxt17294@voyager.bestway.com.br>, atvars@bestway.co m.br writes: > I am experiencing many problems with winoldap process. > I use xitami 2.5b4 and some perl cgi applications (perl from activestate). >I have zonealarm firewall activated (update version) and vscan (also update >version). I am running in P3 with windows 98 se. > I started do have many problems of xitami freezing. When Xitami "freezes" what is happening? Is a CGI being started? From your description it sounds like you've got a virus scanner checking each thing that gets run (including CGIs started by Xitami), and perhaps also ZoneAlarm checking things that are running too. Given that when you have these turned off, you don't have the problem, perhaps one or both of them is intercepting Xitami's attemmpts to run CGIs, etc? Generally I'd say you'd be better off not scanning things Xitami runs as they are run, but just scanning the files when you put them on the machine. And if you want to run CGIs, you'll have to configure any security products you might have installed to allow Xitami to start them automatically. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 15:58:31 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:58:31 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.5b4 sends periods as '%2E' in filenames In-Reply-To: Message from "Rod B. Nussbaumer" of "Wed, 30 May 2001 08:08:06 MST." <3B150CD6.A420E427@trmail.triumf.ca> Message-ID: <200106061458.CAA02429@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3B150CD6.A420E427@trmail.triumf.ca>, "Rod B. Nussbaumer" writes: >I've recently upgraded to 2.5b4 on Win95 (!), and now whenever >I try to download files from it using either the FTP server or >using an http: URL, the FTP client or browser sees the download >filename as one long name with the period(s) represented as %2E, This happens when downloading a file out of a Xitami-generated directory listing? In which case it sounds like Xitami is being a touch too paranoid about escaping the filenames. You might want to experiment with changing httpdir.gsl; there are two versions of each filename passed in: one for display, and one that has been "escaped" to solve any problem characters. The latter is used in the URL by default. You could experiment with changing it to use the unescaped name, and see if that avoids your issue. (It may introduce other issues though, especially if you have filenames with spaces in them, etc). I'll put this on the bug list for more investigation. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 16:02:30 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Melanie Mybach) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:02:30 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] German girl needs help! In-Reply-To: <3B186B1A.D7E878D1@2cah.com> Message-ID: <000501c0ee99$b9396fd0$fe78a8c0@Speedy> Hello, out there! I?m searching for a german introducing for Xitami. Does anyone have a link or an idea, where I can find such an intorducing? Please help me! Thx to all Greetz Melanie From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 16:06:28 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 03:06:28 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] /../../%20 thing In-Reply-To: Message from "Paul Richards" of "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 02:28:24 +0100." Message-ID: <200106061506.DAA02599@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "Paul Richar ds" writes: >What is more interesting is how xitami behaves to that request..... >http://127.0.0.1 -> returns homepage. >http://127.0.0.1/../ -> returns home page. ".." like strings get eliminated before trying to figure out what the URL means; it's a security measure. However there seems to be some strange interaction between encoded spaces and other things going on; I've put it on the bug list. >From what I've heard to date this isn't a security issue (since you don't get access to anything you'd not otherwise have access to, and even when you do get a directory listing that perhaps you shouldn't have received, it is empty revealing nothing). But it's definitely a strange bug to investigate. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 17:20:14 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (bernd hohmann) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:20:14 +0100 (MEZ) Subject: [Xitami] German girl needs help! In-Reply-To: <000501c0ee99$b9396fd0$fe78a8c0@Speedy> Message-ID: <200106061520.RAA25414@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:02:30 +0200, Melanie Mybach wrote: > I?m searching for a german introducing for Xitami. > Does anyone have a link or an idea, where I can find such an > intorducing? du kannst die deutschen hier fragen ... but i have no german introduction... bernd From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 19:53:39 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dr. Martin R. Hadam) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:53:39 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 Message-ID: On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:56:22 +0100 (MEZ), bernd hohmann wrote: >no problem. i'll grab the sources and build a os/2 version next >week. i is ok to send you the exe only and you put it into the >right archive ? sounds like a good idea! Thanks. It appears that I'm the only one experiencing problems with any version higher than 2.47 (on OS/2). With the 'current' beta and the one including your fix, Xitami would quietly [no error, no popuplog] stop running after a [short] while; even without any website traffic. Only http services are active. This has been tested on two different machines, both running Warp Server SMP (at FP 42/43). any clues on how to improve this situation? Martin Martin R. Hadam Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule D-30623 Hannover Germany Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 19:20:52 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:20:52 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami & PHP In-Reply-To: <991851106@coconutcomm.com> Message-ID: <991851652@coconutcomm.com> Hello all, I am wondering if there is a good reference "manual" or 'how-to' to get php and Xitami running together. (Hey, go easy on me, I'm a newbie) ;-) -J From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 19:27:53 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (david) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:27:53 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami & PHP References: <991851652@coconutcomm.com> Message-ID: <3B1E7629.18F62ECF@evernet.net> if you're doing it on Windows, PHP will set it up for you. You can choose to have it look for Xitami and configure it. at least I think. I did it a long long time ago. If not you can just set it in your filters? *.php = c:\php4\php.exe david -- "The best way to have a good idea is to have lots of ideas." From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 19:29:46 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Matthew Daubenspeck) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:29:46 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami & PHP In-Reply-To: <3B1E7629.18F62ECF@evernet.net> References: <991851652@coconutcomm.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010606142849.009f6020@daubnet.tzo.com> Install the newest (CGI Only) Version of PHP. Select ADVANCED setup and the installation program will change everything FOR you. This is for Windows only... At 11:27 AM 6/6/01 -0700, you wrote: >if you're doing it on Windows, PHP will set it up for you. >You can choose to have it look for Xitami and configure it. >at least I think. I did it a long long time ago. If not you >can just set it in your filters? > >*.php = c:\php4\php.exe ____________________________________________ Matthew Daubenspeck http://daubnet.tzo.com/weblog "Hit any user to continue..." ____________________________________________ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 20:10:11 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:10:11 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 Message-ID: <42117@dsl.co.uk> In message <200106060915.VAA30637@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Ewen McNeill writes: > In message <200106060856.KAA23460@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com>, "bernd hohmann" writes: > >On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 04:24:54 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: > >> Also somewhere between 2.4d7 and 2.4d9 (and 2.5b4 and 2.5b5) we've > >> retired all our OS/2 machines, so don't actually have a way to build an > >> OS/2 binary! > > > >no problem. i'll grab the sources and build a os/2 version next > >week. i is ok to send you the exe only and you put it into the right archive ? > > Sure, if you could do that, it'd be great. I missed your earlier posting, so am having to respond to this one. Is it wise to retire all OS/2 machines with the renewed interest being shown in OS/2 as a platform, especially with the release of eComStation? -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 20:22:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:22:48 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Running Xitami as a service under Win9x Message-ID: <42119@dsl.co.uk> At work (I teach in a university) we've just decided to set up a class using Xitami (and InstantASP from Halcyon Soft) to replace an exercise that used to be done under IIS. So last week I collected the Windows version of Xitami 2.4d7, and installed it yesterday (on one trial machine). The first thought that occurred to me was that it ought to be possible to run it as a service, rather than just auto-running it once someone has logged in. I looked through the FAQ - no mention. I also saw this mailing list described, and have been subscribed to it for 24 hours. I *did* try moving the item that gets generated under the ...\CurrentVersion\Run registry key into ...\RunServices instead, and indeed Xitami does then start up (although it shows an annoying "about" screen wwhen so doing). Then later, I saw that there IS a mention of running it as a Service under Win9x, oddly enough on the downloads page (I didn't read any further having once identified the package that I [thought] I wanted:-) So today I fetched the console version, which has of course been updated since my FTP session of last week, so I got bc3224d9.exe. According to the installation description "The Xitami console version installation package asks whether you want to install it as a Win95 service". SFAICS, it did NOT ask this question; neither did it create "a small dispatcher, called "C:\Services.bat" which simply changes to the Xitami directory and then runs Xitami". Has the installation procedure been botched since those words were written? Or has this part never been written after all? Can I manually create the requisite batch file, and install the registry key manually (I'm quite happy with registry hacking)? As an extension, would it be possible to start the iASP admin and servlet processes from within the same batch file as well? -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 6 20:07:37 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Melanie Mybach) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:07:37 +0200 Subject: AW: [Xitami] German girl needs help! In-Reply-To: <200106061520.RAA25414@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com> Message-ID: <000001c0eebb$fd3f4110$fe78a8c0@Speedy> Okay, danke! Also, falls jmd. Mein schlechtes Englisch nicht verstanden hat, dann: Suche dringend eine deutsche Anleitung f�r Xitami. Wer einen Link hat, oder sogar eine Anleitung bitte melden, danke! Liebe Gr��e Melanie -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org] Im Auftrag von bernd hohmann Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2001 18:20 An: xitami@lists.xitami.org Betreff: Re: [Xitami] German girl needs help! On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:02:30 +0200, Melanie Mybach wrote: > I?m searching for a german introducing for Xitami. > Does anyone have a link or an idea, where I can find such an > intorducing? du kannst die deutschen hier fragen ... but i have no german introduction... bernd -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 08:19:09 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Pete Bungay) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:19:09 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami & PHP In-Reply-To: <991851652@coconutcomm.com> Message-ID: try the installation instructions in the PHP readme - I found it worked OK after I remembered to use localhost and my default web directory to hold pages (otherwise PHP doesn't parse the pages) - I have just bought Essential PHP by Julie C Meloni (ISBN 076152729X) and am finding it very useful. Pete -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of john.uhlig@coconutcomm.com Sent: 06 June 2001 19:21 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: [Xitami] Xitami & PHP Hello all, I am wondering if there is a good reference "manual" or 'how-to' to get php and Xitami running together. (Hey, go easy on me, I'm a newbie) ;-) -J -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 08:32:25 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:32:25 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) of "Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:10:11 GMT." <42117@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <200106070732.TAA09252@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <42117@dsl.co.uk>, Brian {Hamilton Kelly} writes: >In message <200106060915.VAA30637@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Ewen McNeill writes: >> In message <200106060856.KAA23460@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com>, "bernd hohmann" > writes: >> >On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 04:24:54 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: >> >> Also somewhere between 2.4d7 and 2.4d9 (and 2.5b4 and 2.5b5) we've >> >> retired all our OS/2 machines, so don't actually have a way to build an >> >> OS/2 binary! > >Is it wise to retire all OS/2 machines with the renewed interest being >shown in OS/2 as a platform, especially with the release of eComStation? Ah, but the thing is they've all _been_ retired, as of 6-12 months ago; it's not like we've just decided to retire them now. At the suggestion of one of our OS/2 users we've sent a "heads up" to the makers of eComStation to see if they're interested in working with us to keep Xitami binaries available for OS/2. We'll see what comes of that. Meanwhile Xitami should build with gcc + EMX under OS/2 for anyone who is interested in doing so. And if we can find a spare machine and some spare time (!!) we'll try to get an OS/2 build machine set up again. Alas, spare time is in short supply... Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 09:42:22 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:42:22 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" of "Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:53:39 +0100." Message-ID: <200106070842.UAA12191@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" writes : >On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:56:22 +0100 (MEZ), bernd hohmann wrote: > It appears that I'm the only one experiencing problems with any >version higher than 2.47 (on OS/2). "higher than 2.4d7"? Did you build your own executable? Or do you mean 2.5b4? Currently there aren't binaries for OS/2 for 2.4d9 or 2.4b5 online. >With the 'current' beta and the one >including your fix, Xitami would quietly [no error, no popuplog] stop >running after a [short] while; even without any website traffic. What is in the logs? If you run it in debug mode ([Server] debug=1) does it indicate anything happening at the point it stops? Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 13:28:06 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dr. Martin R. Hadam) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:28:06 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 Message-ID: On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:42:22 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: >>On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:56:22 +0100 (MEZ), bernd hohmann wrote: >> It appears that I'm the only one experiencing problems with any >>version higher than 2.47 (on OS/2). >"higher than 2.4d7"? Did you build your own executable? Or do you mean >2.5b4? Currently there aren't binaries for OS/2 for 2.4d9 or 2.4b5 >online. sorry for not being clear: I was referring to the 2.5b4 and the patched version made available recently by Bernd Hohmann. >>With the 'current' beta and the one >>including your fix, Xitami would quietly [no error, no popuplog] stop >>running after a [short] while; even without any website traffic. >What is in the logs? If you run it in debug mode ([Server] debug=1) >does it indicate anything happening at the point it stops? nothing specific: below is a sample of today: 2001/06/07 11:33:09: Loading VH data for base host 2001/06/07 11:33:09: - loading config data from basehost.cfg 2001/06/07 11:33:09: - rootdir=webserver, cgi-bin=cgi-bin 2001/06/07 11:33:09: - loading password data from: mrhsrv.aut The program quitely closed some time later. If there's any specific check that I could do to improve the error response, please let me know. I'm aware that the current "results" are not impressive. Martin Martin R. Hadam Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule D-30623 Hannover Germany Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 16:10:45 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (bernd hohmann) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 16:10:45 +0100 (MEZ) Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106071410.QAA32378@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.com> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:28:06 +0100, Dr. Martin R. Hadam wrote: > sorry for not being clear: I was referring to the 2.5b4 and the > patched version made available recently by Bernd Hohmann. i may introduced other bogus bugs. but this version is running with more than 120 vhosts and 60 ftp-accounts here. on the other hand: xitami is running in an endless loop because it crashes sometimes when the ftp-setup of one user isn't correct but this happens only when the user tries to use its defect account. bernd From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 18:00:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Matt Jaworski) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:00:48 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's Message-ID: <003c01c0ef73$66c26fb0$a65c5f80@neelix> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C0EF38.BA58C240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have Xitami loaded on one HD and I have information on another HD that I would like to include on my website. 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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C0EF38.BA58C240-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 18:08:16 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (david) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:08:16 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's References: <003c01c0ef73$66c26fb0$a65c5f80@neelix> Message-ID: <3B1FB500.4A8851C0@evernet.net> You're trying to set an alias to another harddrive? hmm...it should work no problem...can you cut that portion of your CFG file and send it to the list, maybe we can find something from there. > I have Xitami loaded on one HD and I have information on another > HD that I would like to include on my website. I tried setting it up > with the Xitami instructions but nothing works... -- "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 18:11:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Matt Jaworski) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:11:48 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's References: <003c01c0ef73$66c26fb0$a65c5f80@neelix> <3B1FB500.4A8851C0@evernet.net> Message-ID: <004801c0ef74$f024c400$a65c5f80@neelix> Here is the alias section from Xitami.cfg [Alias] # private=e:\ # Directory/drive aliases # # E.g "http://xxxxx/mandy/" Thanx for you help david :) Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "david" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Xitami] Setting Alias's > You're trying to set an alias to another harddrive? > hmm...it should work no problem...can you cut that > portion of your CFG file and send it to the list, > maybe we can find something from there. > > > > I have Xitami loaded on one HD and I have information on another > > HD that I would like to include on my website. I tried setting it up > > with the Xitami instructions but nothing works... > > -- > "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and > he'll be warm for the rest of his life." > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 18:25:33 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (david) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:25:33 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's References: <003c01c0ef73$66c26fb0$a65c5f80@neelix> <3B1FB500.4A8851C0@evernet.net> <004801c0ef74$f024c400$a65c5f80@neelix> Message-ID: <3B1FB90D.B1AC52B@evernet.net> :-) Very Small Error: Try this instead, notice the forward slash infront of "private" [Alias] # /private=e:\ # Directory/drive aliases # # E.g "http://xxxxx/mandy/" "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 20:28:05 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dennis G. Wicks) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:28:05 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's In-Reply-To: "Matt Jaworski" '[Xitami] Setting Alias's' (Jun 7, 10:00) Message-ID: <200106071728.KAA26263@eskimo.com> Matt, You want something like this: [Alias] Cd = "z:\\" Drv/a = "a:\\" Drv/c = "c:\\" Drv/d = "d:\\" Drv/e = "E:\\" Drv/f = "f:\\" Drv/g = "g:\\" Drv/x = "x:\\" Drv/y = "y:\\" Drv/z = "z:\\" Hope this helps! Good Luck! Dennis From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 19:21:22 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Matt Jaworski) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:21:22 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's References: <003c01c0ef73$66c26fb0$a65c5f80@neelix> <3B1FB500.4A8851C0@evernet.net> <004801c0ef74$f024c400$a65c5f80@neelix> <3B1FB90D.B1AC52B@evernet.net> Message-ID: <006101c0ef7e$a7f6eff0$a65c5f80@neelix> I really appreciate you help. I tried what you and Dennis have said. I put in the forward slash... [/private=e:\] ... but it still does not seem to work. I keep getting... "The URL you asked for does not exist on this website". :( So as my situation goes, my website runs from the D: drive and I have files on the E: Drive. I set up the alias as you said and put in a test file [mapfail.htm] into my E: drive. The same message pops up as before. Is there a special way that I have to set up the link on my webpages? i.e. - http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/private/e/mapfail.htm ? or http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/e/mapfail.htm ? Thanx guys, Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "david" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Xitami] Setting Alias's > :-) Very Small Error: Try this instead, notice the forward slash > infront of "private" > > > > [Alias] > # /private=e:\ # Directory/drive aliases > # # E.g > "http://xxxxx/mandy/" > > > > > "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and > he'll be warm for the rest of his life." > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 19:33:32 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Matthew Daubenspeck) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:33:32 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's In-Reply-To: <006101c0ef7e$a7f6eff0$a65c5f80@neelix> References: <003c01c0ef73$66c26fb0$a65c5f80@neelix> <3B1FB500.4A8851C0@evernet.net> <004801c0ef74$f024c400$a65c5f80@neelix> <3B1FB90D.B1AC52B@evernet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607143311.009f18f0@daubnet.tzo.com> Try restarting the server after this most recent change. At 11:21 AM 6/7/01 -0700, you wrote: >I really appreciate you help. > >I tried what you and Dennis have said. > >I put in the forward slash... [/private=e:\] >... but it still does not seem to work. >I keep getting... "The URL you asked for does not >exist on this website". :( > >So as my situation goes, my website runs from the D: drive >and I have files on the E: Drive. > >I set up the alias as you said and put in a test file [mapfail.htm] >into my E: drive. > >The same message pops up as before. Is there a special way that >I have to set up the link on my webpages? >i.e. - http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/private/e/mapfail.htm ? >or http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/e/mapfail.htm ? > >Thanx guys, > >Matt > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "david" >To: >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:25 AM >Subject: Re: [Xitami] Setting Alias's > > > > :-) Very Small Error: Try this instead, notice the forward slash > > infront of "private" > > > > > > > > [Alias] > > # /private=e:\ # Directory/drive aliases > > # # E.g > > "http://xxxxx/mandy/" > > > > > > > > > > "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and > > he'll be warm for the rest of his life." > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > > >-- >Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support >To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami ____________________________________________ Matthew Daubenspeck http://daubnet.tzo.com/weblog "Hit any user to continue..." ____________________________________________ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 21:58:40 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dennis G. Wicks) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:58:40 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's In-Reply-To: "Matt Jaworski" 'Re: [Xitami] Setting Alias's' (Jun 7, 11:21) Message-ID: <200106071858.LAA01816@eskimo.com> Hey, You need to take out those leading # characters. They make it comments. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 20:00:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Matt Jaworski) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:00:57 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's References: <200106071858.LAA01816@eskimo.com> Message-ID: <008301c0ef84$2fa35a10$a65c5f80@neelix> actually I have done that. :) How do I set up the links to things on other drives? Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis G. Wicks" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Xitami] Setting Alias's > Hey, > > You need to take out those leading # characters. They make it comments. > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 22:54:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dennis G. Wicks) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:54:48 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's In-Reply-To: "Matt Jaworski" 'Re: [Xitami] Setting Alias's' (Jun 7, 12:00) Message-ID: <200106071954.MAA04800@eskimo.com> Put in an entry like this: Temp = "E:\\Program Files\\XITAMI\\temp" You can do this through the admin screen also. Note that you can call it anything you want. I am still trying to figure out how to set up a virtual file system, but that is another thread. Good Luck! Dennis From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 02:38:12 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dr. Gil) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:38:12 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition Message-ID: <001201c0efbb$afe7c9e0$b186fea9@gilberty> Serious newbie question. I have recently downloaded and installed Xitami's webserver. I have signed up for and received a personal domain. I use Windows ME for an OS. I am hooked up to the internet via a DSL connection. Now then, I have no idea in this world how to have Xitami recognize my domain name. Does it have to do with the network settings in my control panel? With my ISP? With settings within Xitami? What? any and all help appreciated, Dr. Gil From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 03:03:44 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Jonathan Cilley) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:03:44 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition In-Reply-To: <001201c0efbb$afe7c9e0$b186fea9@gilberty> Message-ID: Dr. Gil, The First thing you will need to find out is if your DSL provider provides you with a static or dynamic IP address. If you have a dynamic address, than you will need to subscribe to a domain redirection service (bn3 is pretty good). If you have a static IP address you have the option of running your own DNS server (but with WinME stability could be an issue). If you choose to run a DNS server, I suggest you buy a book on setting up a windows DNS server as the process can be complicated and involve some steps that will not be that easy for someone new to hosting web sites. Personally, if you are new to this, I would go with a free redirection service like bn3 anyway, especially if you have a static IP address. With bn3 you can redirect http://www.yourdomain.com to your IP address and it will work great. If you have a Dynamic IP address, you really don't have a choice other than to go with a redirection service like bn3. If you would like to check out bn3's offering go to http://www.bn3.com Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Dr. Gil Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:38 PM To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition Serious newbie question. I have recently downloaded and installed Xitami's webserver. I have signed up for and received a personal domain. I use Windows ME for an OS. I am hooked up to the internet via a DSL connection. Now then, I have no idea in this world how to have Xitami recognize my domain name. Does it have to do with the network settings in my control panel? With my ISP? With settings within Xitami? What? any and all help appreciated, Dr. Gil -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 08:39:25 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (GunnarSwan) Date: 8 Jun 2001 00:39:25 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition Message-ID: <20010608073925.10142.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Where ever you got your domain name (www.MyName.com) .. they should have a facility to point to a DNS server. They may have their own DNS server IP's as default. I use my SDSL ISP domain. I paid for 8 static IP's. At Register.Com (where I got my domain name), I point to my IP domain name server and I point my Static IP address on one of my boxes static IP here as my web site. The router assigns internal IP addresses, as does my ISP. The ISP maps Internal IP's to External IP's, so that TCP/IP can travel on a private network on my side of the firewall. (We have 3 pc's here). The outside world can get to my machine by my desk via external IP address or domain name. Do get a firewall; better to run NT. WinXX is unsafe in the real world. WinXX must be behind a firewall. It can't be in the DMZ or you may get hacked. Get rid of Windows Networking. Only use TCP/IP. NT ships "Wide Open". NT must be locked down. Win98 is wide open and can't be locked down. If this bumms you out, call M$. There are some good books out there on NT and TCP/IP and Firewalls. Very interesting reading. Good Luck. Hope This helps. On Thu, 07 June 2001, "Jonathan Cilley" wrote: > > Dr. Gil, > > The First thing you will need to find out is if your DSL provider provides > you with a static or dynamic IP address. If you have a dynamic address, than > you will need to subscribe to a domain redirection service (bn3 is pretty > good). If you have a static IP address you have the option of running your > own DNS server (but with WinME stability could be an issue). If you choose > to run a DNS server, I suggest you buy a book on setting up a windows DNS > server as the process can be complicated and involve some steps that will > not be that easy for someone new to hosting web sites. Personally, if you > are new to this, I would go with a free redirection service like bn3 anyway, > especially if you have a static IP address. With bn3 you can redirect > http://www.yourdomain.com to your IP address and it will work great. If you > have a Dynamic IP address, you really don't have a choice other than to go > with a redirection service like bn3. If you would like to check out bn3's > offering go to http://www.bn3.com > > Jonathan > > -----Original Message----- > From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org > [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Dr. Gil > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:38 PM > To: xitami@lists.xitami.org > Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition > > > Serious newbie question. I have recently downloaded and installed Xitami's > webserver. I have signed up for and received a personal domain. I use > Windows ME for an OS. I am hooked up to the internet via a DSL connection. > Now then, I have no idea in this world how to have Xitami recognize my > domain name. Does it have to do with the network settings in my control > panel? With my ISP? With settings within Xitami? What? > > any and all help appreciated, > Dr. Gil > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami Best Regards, Gunnar Swan Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 7 14:06:01 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Andrew Tate) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:06:01 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition In-Reply-To: <001201c0efbb$afe7c9e0$b186fea9@gilberty> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010607140601.008af390@pop.surrey.ac.uk> Many have answered the need to find your machine via the DNS with static ip's or another service. I will just mention that I have a static ip and that the isp that registered my domains can point them to my static ip. (Yes thats right I point half a dozen at the same ip). I then successfully use the virtual hosts in Xitami to pick up the domain name used in the url and serve up different web sites. If anyone actually types in the numeric ip address then they get the default host pages. It will work and Xitami has proved an excellant choice as I can now easily add my newly registered domains and have them all on the one server - even separtate log files to count the few people that visit !!!! Yes I run it all on a Win98 pentium 160 box with 48MB ram and it stays up quite well on this platform. Andy... At 18:38 07/06/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Serious newbie question. I have recently downloaded and installed Xitami's >webserver. I have signed up for and received a personal domain. I use >Windows ME for an OS. I am hooked up to the internet via a DSL connection. >Now then, I have no idea in this world how to have Xitami recognize my >domain name. Does it have to do with the network settings in my control >panel? With my ISP? With settings within Xitami? What? > >any and all help appreciated, >Dr. Gil > > >-- >Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support >To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 10:18:55 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:18:55 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's In-Reply-To: Message from david of "Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:25:33 MST." <3B1FB90D.B1AC52B@evernet.net> Message-ID: <200106080918.VAA22057@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3B1FB90D.B1AC52B@evernet.net>, david writes: >:-) Very Small Error: Try this instead, notice the forward slash >infront of "private" > >[Alias] ># /private=e:\ # Directory/drive aliases ># # E.g "http://xxxxx/mandy/" I trust y'all realise that if you have a comment ("#") character at the start, Xitami is going to ignore it as a comment? You need something like: [Alias] /private=e:\ in order for Xitami to read it :-) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 12:19:49 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:19:49 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Running Xitami as a service under Win9x Message-ID: <42167@dsl.co.uk> In message <42119@dsl.co.uk> bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) writes: > Then later, I saw that there IS a mention of running it as a Service > under Win9x, oddly enough on the downloads page (I didn't read any > further having once identified the package that I [thought] I wanted:-) > > So today I fetched the console version, which has of course been updated > since my FTP session of last week, so I got bc3224d9.exe. According to > the installation description "The Xitami console version installation > package asks whether you want to install it as a Win95 service". SFAICS, > it did NOT ask this question; neither did it create "a small dispatcher, > called "C:\Services.bat" which simply changes to the Xitami directory and > then runs Xitami". > > Has the installation procedure been botched since those words were > written? Or has this part never been written after all? > > Can I manually create the requisite batch file, and install the registry > key manually (I'm quite happy with registry hacking)? Sadly, I've seen no response to this query :-( In the interim, I've written a batch file [C:\Xitami\Service.bat] of my own, containing: C: cd \Xitami XiDOS32 -s and have edited the relevant [...\RunServices] registry key to have an additional entry: "Xitami" = "C:\Xitami\Service.bat" This works OK originally: the HTTP server starts running about the same time as the "Login to Domain" dialogue box appears on the screen. (I had to edit the job's properties so that it started minimized, rather than having a blobby-great DOS-box on the screen.) The service continues to work happily also after a user has logged in for the first time. However, when that user elects to "Start -> Shutdown -> Close all programs and log in as a different user" then the server process also gets killed. This isn't really very useful; surely after having been started with the -s switch[1] the process ought not to be a candidate for killing off on user "logout"? I'm suspecting that we shall have to revert to the bw (Windows version) and just be content with its being started through the Run key for each login, and then not have the user logout. > As an extension, would it be possible to start the iASP admin and servlet > processes from within the same batch file as well? Any information and hints on this aspect would also be appreciated; with these Java processes, one *can't* logout without running the associated "Stop" programs. [1] Yes, it is lower-case, and yes, the box reports "Moving into background". -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 11:55:21 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 22:55:21 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Running Xitami as a service under Win9x In-Reply-To: Message from bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) of "Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:19:49 GMT." <42167@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <200106081055.WAA24910@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <42167@dsl.co.uk>, Brian {Hamilton Kelly} writes: >In message <42119@dsl.co.uk> > bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) writes: >> Then later, I saw that there IS a mention of running it as a Service >> under Win9x, oddly enough on the downloads page (I didn't read any >> further having once identified the package that I [thought] I wanted:-) >> [....] >> Has the installation procedure been botched since those words were >> written? Or has this part never been written after all? > >Sadly, I've seen no response to this query :-( This is largely because no one knows the answer :-) Windows 95/98 really are not intended for running services on them; any attempts to do otherwise are at best somewhat hopeful and as you have found. Basically from what I've been able to find out any "services" you run under Windows 95 generally start when you log in, and stop when you log out, and there's relatively little you can do about that. Apparently if you install the NT Service version (bs3224d9.exe) under Windows 95 it will register itself in basically the way that you have found. Alternatively you can run the DOS console version in a minimised window as you have done (the "-s" switch doesn't do anything under DOS/Windows other than print out the message you saw; it does useful things only in Unix and OS/2). However as you've found, it'll be stopped when the user logs out. Basically if you'll need to choose between: (a) having Xitami running when a user is logged in, on a user workstation OS like Windows 95/98, and (b) running Xitami on a more server oriented OS (Linux, Unix, Windows NT/2000, even OS/2). Sorry about that. But unfortunately it's inherient in the way that Windows 95/98 works: it's not intended to run "services" in the way server OSes are, and Microsoft went to some lengths to make it more difficult. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 14:14:45 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Peter S Tillier) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:14:45 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's References: <003c01c0ef73$66c26fb0$a65c5f80@neelix> Message-ID: <01c601c0f01c$ff12b320$9d28f30a@nat.bt.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jaworski" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's > I have Xitami loaded on one HD and I have information on another > HD that I would like to include on my website. I tried setting it up > with the Xitami instructions but nothing works... > > Can anyone help? > > Matt I just received this mail together with those from Dennis and David, previously I only had Matt's later emails and Matthew's reply. I was beginning to think that the Xitami list was vested with a certain amount of prescient knowledge insofar as questions were being answered before being asked! ;-) -- Peter S Tillier peter.tillier@btinternet.com petert@eq1152.demon.co.uk Opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of my employer From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 14:47:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 01:47:57 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] FTP server not working after installing 2.5b4 In-Reply-To: Message from "Jeff H" of "Tue, 08 May 2001 15:59:33 EST." <010e01c0d7f9$4bedd440$fb00a8c0@ziggy> Message-ID: <200106081347.BAA26649@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <010e01c0d7f9$4bedd440$fb00a8c0@ziggy>, "Jeff H" writes: >Is there, by chance, a list of well-known problems available? The closest thing is our KNOWNBUG.TXT file in CVS which you can view through viewcvs: http://cvs.imatix.com./cgi-bin/viewcvs/xitami/src/KNOWNBUG.TXT One day we'll find the time to install a real bug-tracking system. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 14:57:08 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 01:57:08 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] HTTP_REFERER(sp) and CGI In-Reply-To: Message from gte176q@prism.gatech.edu of "Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:25:45 CDT." <5.0.1.4.0.20010117005509.009f4a20@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200106081357.BAA26724@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <5.0.1.4.0.20010117005509.009f4a20@pop.prism.gatech.edu>, gte176q@prism.gatech.edu writes: > I'm using Perl/CGI to redirect visitors to certain pages based on which >page they've come from. I know there's a "last-page-visited" HTTP header >(HTTP_REFERER), and I know that Xitami logs it via NCSA, but for some >reason it's not passed to Perl. When I test this with I get a HTTP_REFERER header available in the environment (eg, with /cgi-bin/testcgi) if the browser provides it. (Generally the browser will provide it if you've clicked on a link to get somewhere, and it hasn't been configured not to, and there are no proxies in between configured to strip it out.) Do you not get that variable? If so what HTML are you using to provide the link to click on, and what version of Xitami? As far as I recall, Xitami passes all HTTP headers through to the CGI programs as HTTP_..., and in addition sets a few other variables (from the CGI spec, and forms). Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 15:00:33 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:00:33 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] admin problem In-Reply-To: Message from tom mcpharlin of "Fri, 02 Feb 2001 01:22:08 CDT." <3A7A515A.9020500@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <200106081400.CAA26869@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3A7A515A.9020500@pacbell.net>, tom mcpharlin writes: >I'm running Xitami 2.4.d7 on a windows 2000 system. When I try to access >the admin page, I enter the name/password in defaults.aut and then get >the message: >"The function you requested is not implemented" As far as I can remember this message will appear only if Xitami detects the path as a WSX (web server extension, like the admin pages), but then cannot find the extension that is supposed to be there (eg, because the name is wrong). The [Wsx] section of the config file specifies that "admin" should be handled by "xiadmin"; if you've changed your config files (eg, defaults.cfg, etc) for some reason so that "admin" points at another name that might cause the problem. So perhaps check carefully through your defaults.cfg file. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 15:20:47 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:20:47 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Wba for Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: Message from "Gerben Tiele" of "Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:12:19 CDT." <001201d3a270$9264e900$6401640a@0.0.1> Message-ID: <200106081420.CAA27027@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <001201d3a270$9264e900$6401640a@0.0.1>, "Gerben Tiele" writes: >Wba for Virtual hosts is not working at all. It should be accesable with >the url [/setup] at the end, just like Admin, but it's not working at >all.. I just got a error page. >So what I did: I've added the following line in xitami.cfg under the WSX >section: >setup=xisetup >I do get the right login page, but after entering my username + pass >right I get a 501 error. (not implented) The 501 (not implemented) error message indicates that there is no "xisetup" that can be run. AFAICT this is because there is no "xisetup"; the web based admin is "xiadmin", usually at "/admin", and is set up by the default configuration. You can set up virtual hosts through the web based admin (at /admin). Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 15:26:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:26:48 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Web server not finding IP address In-Reply-To: Message from Ted Morgan of "Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:01:42 EST." <8A6229AB5BE35447A7A838D64C1792BBB2A747@exchangeus.edocs.com> , Xitami@EC-Computers.Net Message-ID: <200106081426.CAA27428@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <8A6229AB5BE35447A7A838D64C1792BBB2A747@exchangeus.edocs.com> , Xitami@EC-Computers.Net, Ted Morgan writes: >Very recently my Xitami web server started having problems binding to my IP >address. I have it configured so that it will run at startup (using Windows >98). But it will only list 127.0.0.1 as the IP address of the machine. Which version of Xitami is it? (2.5b4, but dos console? Win32? NT Service?) And how do you have it configured to "run at startup"? When a user logs in? Or before that? Normally Xitami will find the IP addresses that are available when it starts, so I'm puzzled by your situation -- possibly it is starting before an address has been allocated for your network card (eg, via DHCP)? Or possibly something strange is going on. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 15:36:03 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:36:03 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] complete newbie - ftp service doesn't work In-Reply-To: Message from "Dr Mike Waters" of "Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:55:37 CDT." <3A2A6CA6.13469.57D954@localhost> Message-ID: <200106081436.CAA27630@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3A2A6CA6.13469.57D954@localhost>, "Dr Mike Waters" writes: >I've just installed Xitami 2.5b4 service on a windows NT4 >workstation. The http server seems to be operating perfectly well. >However, when I open a console windows and try to ftp to this >machine from another machine on the network or from the local >machine it puts up the initial xitami ftp server message and hangs >at this point (i.e. no carriage return, welcome message etc). If you were running the NT Service version of 2.5b4 you were possibly being caught by the old-binary situation, causing it not to find the script that output the rest of the FTP login sequence. You might like to try 2.5b5 and see if that has fixed the problem; it includes a rebuilt binary that matches the included scripts. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 15:40:07 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:40:07 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Timestamp 1 hour off -- can anyone confirm this? In-Reply-To: Message from Craig Morrison of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:48:44 CDT." <3A13E559.360CFCFC@2cah.com> Message-ID: <200106081440.CAA27732@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3A13E559.360CFCFC@2cah.com>, Craig Morrison writes: >This is interesting.. Xitami Windows console version 2.4d7 on top of Win2k. >First thing I did was 'touch' the test.html file. Then I fired up FTP to >get this: >ftp> dir test.html >-rw------- 1 user user 633 Nov 16 05:40 test.html > >Reported by DIR: >11/16/2000 08:40a 633 test.html > >Who do I believe? You can't believe anyone; they've all got their own agendas :-) Seriously, Xitami and "dir" seem to disagree over which timezone they should be reporting things in, which I suspect is leading to this issue. I've put it on our bug list to get investigated. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 17:48:41 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dennis G. Wicks) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:48:41 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] HTTP_REFERER(sp) and CGI In-Reply-To: Ewen McNeill 'Re: [Xitami] HTTP_REFERER(sp) and CGI' (Jun 9, 1:57) Message-ID: <200106081448.HAA18404@eskimo.com> Greetings; AFAICT Xitami is not passing through HTTP_REFERER to perl cgi's. I have a perl program that I have used many places that just dumps out all the variables and HTTP_REFERER is not among them. When I explicitly display it the value is null. This perl program is currently working as expected with Apache on both Sun unix and linux/390 so it looks like it is a Xitami weirdness. At least on my NT 4.0! Dennis From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 15:51:12 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:51:12 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] problems with vhosts In-Reply-To: Message from "bernd hohmann" of "Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:09:00 EST." <200009141008.5852921.6@ec-computers.net> Message-ID: <200106081451.CAA28070@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200009141008.5852921.6@ec-computers.net>, "bernd hohmann" writes: >defined default security: > admin=0 > [/admin] > {empty} > >BERND security > admin=1 > [/admin] > berndadmin=berndadmin >[....] >this should disallow the admin-function when browsing the default-host but >allow it when using host BERND. The issue here is that the [security] admin=N setting controls whether the admin section is even started up, as Xitami starts. At this point only the main configuration file (xitami.cfg, defaults.cfg) is available, and hence the setting is a global setting. If you disable it in the main file, then the admin section is never started, so will not be available under a virtual host or anywhere basically. As far as I can tell the [security] admin=N setting in the virtual hosts is never even tested. What you could possibly do (you'll need to test this with your setup), is use the [wsx] admin=... settings in the virtual hosts where you don't want the admin available, to override what the /admin path maps to. This should cause "the function you requested is not implemented" for thos virtual hosts. Providing it does, you can then take the password section out for /admin for those virtual hosts, and anyone trying will immediately get that error message. Then on the virtual host where you do wish to access the admin, you can use the password section, and not override the [wsx] admin=.... setting, and it should, in theory, work there. Possibly the documentation should be clearer as to what settings are global and what are per-virtual-host. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 16:15:46 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:15:46 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] HTTP_REFERER(sp) and CGI In-Reply-To: Message from wix@eskimo.com (Dennis G. Wicks) of "Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:48:41 MST." <200106081448.HAA18404@eskimo.com> Message-ID: <200106081515.DAA28609@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200106081448.HAA18404@eskimo.com>, Dennis G. Wicks writes: >AFAICT Xitami is not passing through HTTP_REFERER to perl cgi's. Hmm. Is it just perl CGIs? Or any CGI? For instance when I use the "Test this CGI program" link in the example pages distributed with Xitami, it shows me the HTTP_REFERER header, both with the executable CGI, and also when I use a Perl program in its place. (If you just go directly to the CGI then there will be no referer of course.) Can you perhaps send me (off list) the HTML that you use to link to your perl script, and the environment variables that your perl script does receive? I'm puzzled as to how it could be different on your setup from mine (Xitami under Linux). Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 19:19:12 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:19:12 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition References: <001201c0efbb$afe7c9e0$b186fea9@gilberty> Message-ID: <3B211720.639E4B35@rci.rutgers.edu> > how to have Xitami recognize my domain name. Web servers don't know their own names. (They can, but they don't have to.) And there are really no names on the Internet, only numbers. But people prefer to give machines names, because numbers are hard to remember. Look at what happens when you type a name like "yahoo.com" at your browser. The browser says "What do I do with this? I need a number!". But it knows that the user probably does not know the number. What the webserver (actually the TCP network stack) does is ask a DNS server. All ISPs are required to have a DNS server to serve their customers and to answer requests for name/number lookups from other DNS servers. I have a site http://summerfest.rutgers.edu . You are using pbi.net (PacBell?) as an ISP. Your browser calls pbi.net's DNS server and asks "What's the number for summerfest.rutgers.edu?" pbi.net's DNS server probably never heard of summerfest.rutgers.edu, but it heard of rutgers.edu (or it asks a master .EDU DNS system for the number of rutgers.edu's DNS server). It asks DNS1.rutgers.edu "what is the number for summerfest.rutgers.edu?" and gets the answer "165.230.87.130". Your browser opens 165.230.87.130. The Xitami at that address serves you a page. Now, how did DNS1.rutgers.edu know that summerfest.rutgers.edu is a name for 165.230.87.130 ? I called our DNS guy and asked him to add "summerfest.rutgers.edu", pointed to that IP number, to Rutgers' DNS system. Since you have a Commercial ISP, there will be differences. First: is your IP number Static? My server's IP number has never changed. Many DSL etc accounts get a new IP number every few days. There are ways to handle Dynamic IP allocation, but it is trickier and less reliable than a Static IP. Note that asking your ISP for a Static IP may require that you convert to a more expensive "business" account! With a static IP, your ISP should be able to add your hostname to their DNS system, for all the world to lookup. But at Commercial ISP providers, this often costs "extra". And by asking for a Static IP and a DNS entry, you are telling your ISP that you are running a public server. Such servers -sometimes- generate a lot of traffic, more than the ISP expects for a "home surfer" account. So they may bump you up to a more expensive account. Technically you can buy DNS service from anyone. There are even "Dynamic IP DNS" servers that can change your listed IP number almost as often as your ISP reassigns your IP number. You "can" set up your own DNS service, but: (A) this is very geeky stuff to do correctly (B) some -other- DNS service has to know about your DNS service or nobody will find your DNS server. You can register your own DNS with InterNIC (the people who hold your domain name registration) but they like to see two DNS providers, not in the same place. I don't think this is for a "serious newbie" as you describe yourself. The "right" answer is "Call your ISP and talk". But try to avoid saying who you are until you find out if this will run up your bill. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 20:34:08 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:34:08 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Web server not finding IP address Message-ID: <42201@dsl.co.uk> In message <200106081426.CAA27428@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Ewen McNeill writes: > In message <8A6229AB5BE35447A7A838D64C1792BBB2A747@exchangeus.edocs.com> @ec-computers.net>, Xitami@EC-Computers.Net, Ted Morgan writes: > >Very recently my Xitami web server started having problems binding to my IP > >address. I have it configured so that it will run at startup (using Windows > >98). But it will only list 127.0.0.1 as the IP address of the machine. > > Which version of Xitami is it? (2.5b4, but dos console? Win32? NT > Service?) And how do you have it configured to "run at startup"? When > a user logs in? Or before that? > > Normally Xitami will find the IP addresses that are available when it > starts, so I'm puzzled by your situation -- possibly it is starting > before an address has been allocated for your network card (eg, via > DHCP)? Or possibly something strange is going on. FWIW, a colleague of mine tried installing Xitami on some machines in a teaching lab last year (I don't know which version he was using). The machines all worked fine if one logged in to them as "admin", or with otherwise unrestricted accounts, yet if one logged in with a very restricted account[1], the server would only respond to the loopback address, and not to that of the LAN[2]. I'm pleased to say that bw3224b9 does *not* suffer with this problem: it runs with both the 127.0.0.1 and the allocated 193.63.241.* addresses quite happily whatever the privileges of the user account. [1] I've used the System Policy Editor[3] to create very restrictive accounts to prevent students screwing up the configurations of these Win95 machines; it works *really* well. (Of course, it makes it much easier to prevent these policies being circumvented by having a PDC on the network too.) [2] The LAN has fixed, pre-allocated IP addresses: no DHCP involved here. [3] There have been no changes to the policies between last year's failures and this year's successes: originally, I had thought that some part of a policy prevented a server process from binding to, and/or listening on, any IP address other than 127.0.0.1. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 21:02:22 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 20:02:22 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Running Xitami as a service under Win9x Message-ID: <42203@dsl.co.uk> In message <200106081055.WAA24910@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Ewen McNeill writes: > This is largely because no one knows the answer :-) Windows 95/98 > really are not intended for running services on them; any attempts to do > otherwise are at best somewhat hopeful and as you have found. > > Basically from what I've been able to find out any "services" you run > under Windows 95 generally start when you log in, and stop when you log > out, and there's relatively little you can do about that. Apparently if > you install the NT Service version (bs3224d9.exe) under Windows 95 it > will register itself in basically the way that you have found. If something is place in the registry key [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run], then it will be executed (asynchronously) when anyone logs in. If placed in the [...\RunServices] key, then it will be executed when Windows first boots up. (I make use of the RunServiceOnce key to execute some commands that configure each machine in the lab, when they've all been downloaded an identical Ghosted image: works brilliantly.) What I hadn't appreciated was that something started from the RunServices key is killed off, like any other program, when a user logs out. And there is then no mechanism by which it will be restarted on the next log in. Daft, in my book. > Alternatively you can run the DOS console version in a minimised window > as you have done (the "-s" switch doesn't do anything under DOS/Windows > other than print out the message you saw; it does useful things only in > Unix and OS/2). However as you've found, it'll be stopped when the user > logs out. Indeed :-( I have now reverted to running the Win32 version rather than the console one, and it's fired up when someone logs in. Incidentally, and this is the main point of this posting, I found that the file bw3224d9.exe on the Belgian mirror site is corrupted. Instead of transferring 700kB, it stops after 68kB (and obviously the resultant file is not executable: it complains "Corrupt previous installation" and exits). I had to fetch this file from the USA site. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 21:18:50 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dr. Martin R. Hadam) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:18:50 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 Message-ID: On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 16:10:45 +0100 (MEZ), bernd hohmann wrote: >i may introduced other bogus bugs. but this version is running >with more than 120 vhosts and 60 ftp-accounts here. NO, I did not mean your version had additional additional bugs - it just did not correct my problem here. >on the other hand: xitami is running in an endless loop because >it crashes sometimes when the ftp-setup of one user isn't >correct but this happens only when the user tries to use its >defect account. ftp is disabled in my case (so that should [hopefully ] not generate problems) Martin Martin R. Hadam Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule D-30623 Hannover Germany Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 8 21:40:29 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dr. Martin R. Hadam) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:40:29 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 Message-ID: On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:28:06 +0100, Dr. Martin R. Hadam wrote: > nothing specific: below is a sample of today: >2001/06/07 11:33:09: Loading VH data for base host >2001/06/07 11:33:09: - loading config data from basehost.cfg >2001/06/07 11:33:09: - rootdir=webserver, cgi-bin=cgi-bin >2001/06/07 11:33:09: - loading password data from: mrhsrv.aut > The program quitely closed some time later. I've been moving machines and today, Xitami provided some message, for the first time: ====================== 2001/06/08 21:32:16: smthttp: HTTP service is now running Fatal error in application - aborted Abort at smtsock:Check-For-Expired-Requests: (Getting-Event, Empty-Event) Abnormal program termination ====================== Maybe that helps you better. Martin Martin R. Hadam Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule D-30623 Hannover Germany Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 9 05:33:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Stephen Roberts) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:33:57 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition References: <001201c0efbb$afe7c9e0$b186fea9@gilberty> Message-ID: <005e01c0f09d$65da2220$0501a8c0@Jupiter> TZO has useful utilities which can be used for recognizing your domain name externally. You simply run a downloadable DNS client (with "Yourname.com") on the PC that you are hosting your webserver. Works well for Mail servers also. If interested, they are located at www.tzo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Gil" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:38 PM Subject: [Xitami] Domain Recognition > Serious newbie question. I have recently downloaded and installed Xitami's > webserver. I have signed up for and received a personal domain. I use > Windows ME for an OS. I am hooked up to the internet via a DSL connection. > Now then, I have no idea in this world how to have Xitami recognize my > domain name. Does it have to do with the network settings in my control > panel? With my ISP? With settings within Xitami? What? > > any and all help appreciated, > Dr. Gil > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 9 12:58:31 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 23:58:31 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Running Xitami as a service under Win9x In-Reply-To: Message from bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) of "Fri, 08 Jun 2001 20:02:22 GMT." <42203@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <200106091158.XAA03312@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <42203@dsl.co.uk>, Brian {Hamilton Kelly} writes: >Incidentally, and this is the main point of this posting, I found that >the file bw3224d9.exe on the Belgian mirror site is corrupted. Instead >of transferring 700kB, it stops after 68kB (and obviously the resultant >file is not executable: it complains "Corrupt previous installation" and >exits). I had to fetch this file from the USA site. Has anyone else had this problem? I've just downloaded bw3224d9.exe from the Belgian mirror site and it appears complete to me. Did the download time out part way through, or otherwise go strangely? Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 13:54:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:54:48 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" of "Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:40:29 +0100." Message-ID: <200106101254.AAA26847@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" writes: > I've been moving machines and today, Xitami provided some message, for >the first time: >2001/06/08 21:32:16: smthttp: HTTP service is now running >Fatal error in application - aborted >Abort at smtsock:Check-For-Expired-Requests: (Getting-Event, Empty-Event) >Abnormal program termination Ah, that sort of problem. You might want to keep an eye on whether it's always at the same point, or whether the problems shift around. If they shift around it's most likely that something is writing to memory it shouldn't. If it's always (or usually) one place, then possibly there's something wrong with the way that some requests are handled by smtsock. Unfortunately either way they're difficult to diagnose problems, since they're not easily reproducable. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 16:07:22 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:07:22 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5 In-Reply-To: Message from =?ISO-8859-1?B?VXdlIFL2aGw=?= of "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:24:06 +0200." <1429208901.20010605192406@student.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: <200106101507.DAA27976@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <1429208901.20010605192406@student.uni-magdeburg.de>, =?ISO-8859-1?B? VXdlIFL2aGw=?= writes: >I'm running Xitami 2.5b5 (WinNT service) with Win2kSrv SP2 >and I think I've found a bug in new Xitami 2.5b5: >When you try to disable web-based admin by setting > [security] > admin=0 >in defaults.cfg, it remains fully functional. >You have to set "webmask=" to disable it. I can't reproduce this with 2.5b5 under Linux; if I set [security] admin=0 and restart Xitami then the admin returns 501-not-implemented. As far as I can tell from the source code the Windows NT Service version ought to behave the same way. Has anyone else had problems with [security] admin=0 not disabling the admin service? (Note, it MUST be in defaults.cfg to work; the setting is checked only as the webserver starts up. And the setting is global to the whole webserver.) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 16:12:58 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:12:58 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Alias Directories & File Names In-Reply-To: Message from "Wally Nickel" of "Thu, 17 May 2001 17:56:42 -0400." Message-ID: <200106101512.DAA28035@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "Wally Nickel" writ es: >The only (minor) problem, actually a bit of a nuisance relates to the use of >ALIAS directory where DIRECTORY lists are enabled so that the downloadable >files are listed. The ALIAS lists and ALIAS directories portion works well, >but whenever a file gets downloaded, the extension is either duplicated >(i.e. "song.mp3" becomes "song.mp3.mp3") or an additional character is added >to the extension (i.e. "file.exe" becomes "file.exe(1)" ). Does this ONLY occur in directory listings via aliases? Or does it occur with any directory listing? My guess is that it would occur with any directory listing generated by Xitami, and I suspect it is related to the URL-encoding being done by Xitami. You can perhaps work around this issue in httpdir.gsl (in the templates directory), by using "name" rather than "nameurl" in the links. (This will cause some other problems though, especially with names with spaces in them.) If it does occur in all listings it is already on our bug list. If it occurs ONLY in directory listings via aliases we'll need to narrow down what is special about the directory listings via aliases so we can add it as a new bug. >begin 666 winmail.dat >M>)\^(BH5`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` >M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$& If you can configure your email program not to add 2K of encoded "winmail.dat" to your postings that'd be appreciated. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 16:23:04 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:23:04 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] IP-address mask In-Reply-To: Message from Andreas Zieritz of "Mon, 07 May 2001 05:28:59 EST." <3AF66C12.2AF93935@sovik.no> Message-ID: <200106101523.DAA28115@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3AF66C12.2AF93935@sovik.no>, Andreas Zieritz writes: >I think there is a bug either in the documentation or the implementation >of the IP-address mask (Xitami 2.4d7). The problem is, that >webmask-definitions in the [Security] section not only apply to the >http-protocol, but also to the ftp - even if an other webmask was >defined there. I've managed to reproduce this with Xitami 2.4d9, but Xitami 2.5b5 does not suffer from the problem. I'll put it onto our bug list; thanks for the report. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 16:37:49 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:37:49 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] directory listings In-Reply-To: Message from Mike Shumko of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:36:57 CDT." <2D123C9B36C5D31182B90090279CF9A6295F04@CLIFFY> Message-ID: <200106101537.DAA28480@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <2D123C9B36C5D31182B90090279CF9A6295F04@CLIFFY>, Mike Shumko writes: >I am using Xitami 2.4d7 on WinNT, the 'service' version. >I do not want Xitami to produce a directory listing when there is no default >web document present in a given directory. The dirlist switch does not seem >to work for suppressing these listings. That is, regardless of whether I >enable or disable it, listings are always produced. The dirlist option appears to operate correctly with 2.4d9 under Linux; if set to "1" then directory listings are allowed, if set to "0" then a forbidden message is generated. Beware that there are two dirlist options; one for the CGI directory and one for the overall server security. The one you want to disable all directory listings is: [Security] dirlist=0 Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 16:41:08 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:41:08 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami serving JSP In-Reply-To: Message from "Tim Fiddimore" of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:39:01 CDT." <3AA35E12.23619.E70D5C0@localhost> Message-ID: <200106101541.DAA28526@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3AA35E12.23619.E70D5C0@localhost>, "Tim Fiddimore" writes: >What I want to do is pass the JSP file directly to the servlet, so I >can use a url of the form:- > >http://mydomain/examples/example.jsp > >I cant seem to find any way of associating JSP files with the servlet. The main issue here is that the ServletRunner has no syntax for saying to Xitami "give me all the files ending in this extension". In theory (I haven't tried this) if you can get the LRWP request to be for ".jsp" then all ".jsp" files should be passed to that LRWP (and with the way the ServletRunner works, to that servlet). So if you are up to a bit of Java programming you might be able to hack the ServletRunner to pass the ".jsp" string across for the servlet that is handling the JSP files in its (or one of its) LRWP registrations. Really what is needed is some sort of config file syntax for specifying this, but that may have to wait until I can merge in the changes to the ServletRunner that a user sent in. (Ie, more spare time :-) ) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 16:43:56 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:43:56 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami 2.5 latest beta and W2K In-Reply-To: Message from "Rune Farestveit" of "Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:42:46 CDT." Message-ID: <200106101543.DAA28650@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "Rune Farestveit" writes: >I had the Xitami 2.5 latest beta running on win2000 professional. >Several times the Xitami 2.5 has been reported with internal errors and has >been shut down. [...] >When running on win98se the windows was the unstable part..... now i dont >know why this happends. Is it any incompatibilyties with the 2.5 and win2k? Not that we are aware of. I suspect that for some reason something is overwriting a bit of the memory that Xitami is working with, causing it to get confused and crash like this. Unfortunately they're very difficult bugs to track down. If you do get a chance to try 2.4d9 or 2.5b5 (recently released), I'd appreciate any comments on whether it is better or worse. (At least with those versions I know we've got the source code it was compiled from safely in our source archive which makes it somewhat easier to investigate problems.) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 16:47:20 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:47:20 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] SSI In-Reply-To: Message from Ben Franske of "Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:06:19 CDT." <5.0.2.1.2.20010116193518.00aae5f0@pop-server> Message-ID: <200106101547.DAA28754@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <5.0.2.1.2.20010116193518.00aae5f0@pop-server>, Ben Franske writes: >I'm having a problem with SSI in Xitami. This is in a virtual host the >error message I get is "The function you requested is not implemented" The >SSI code is and it is on a >virtual host with a config file like this: "The function you requested is not implemented" is usually generated when you refer to a WSX which is not compiled into Xitami. In this case you are explicitly setting WSX references for xixssi, which shouldn't normally be required (they are in xitami.cfg for the versions have xixssi): >[Wsx] > .shtml=xixssi > .ssi=xixssi You don't say what version of Xitami you are using. If you are using Xitami 2.4 you need to use perlssi (as a filter, it should be preconfigured in the default configuration). If you are using Xitami 2.5, then xixssi should be installed and set up automatically, in which case you don't need those [wsx] entries. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 17:13:24 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dragonballz Insane) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <200106101547.DAA28754@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <20010610161324.87616.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> I run Xitami 2.5 on Window 98 and was wondering how or is it possible to restrict sertain folders within the server like for ex. to restrict the cgi-bin from viewing but can still use it to run cgi's and pl programs? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 10 19:18:16 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:18:16 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] (no subject) References: <20010610161324.87616.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B23B9E8.60726CCC@rci.rutgers.edu> > restrict the cgi-bin from viewing but can still use it to run cgi's and pl programs? In 2.4, the contents of cgi-bin are not directly visible, only their output is served, as long as you use the default location (NOT under the webpages directory) and don't set any aliases to it. Don't set "Allow file mixing?" in the CGI settings, if you can possibly help it. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 11 20:40:42 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Hans Stuck) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:40:42 -0000 Subject: [Xitami] Access Log Message-ID: I have noticed anonymous attempts to FTP my server, which I think is strange since I haven't informed anyone of my webserver... so I think they may be using a scanner. Here are a few exerpts that interest me: 209.250.128.133 - - [08/Jun/2001:10:14:18 -0500] "GET /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir+c: HTTP/1.0" 404 0 209.250.128.133 - - [08/Jun/2001:10:14:19 -0500] "GET /msadc/..%e0%80%af../..%e0%80%af../..%e0%80%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir+c: HTTP/1.0" 404 0 61.139.59.73 - - [08/Jun/2001:16:38:03 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.1" 404 0 62.42.174.237 - anonymous [08/Jun/2001:17:12:27 -0500] "ftp://62.42.174.237/C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\./ls000001.ftp" 226 -1 Can anyone explain the significance of these? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 11 20:56:03 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael S. Kazarin) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:56:03 +0400 Subject: [Xitami] running server on RAM drive References: <200106091158.XAA03312@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <03c001c0f2b0$8dfb0ca0$a600a8c0@Michael> Hi! I'm running Xitami 2.5b5 on w2k sp2. I've setup RAM drive recently, and consider putting web server pages on it to speed up access a bit. Is it worth it and are there any limitations? Also, will there be any advantage of placing Xitami executable on RAM drive itself (with logs, templates, etc.)? Mike From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 11 20:57:28 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:57:28 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Re: Access Log In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.1.4.0.20010611154345.00a5cbe0@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Yep, I got hit with these a couple of weeks ago too. 209.250.128.133 - - [08/Jun/2001:10:14:18 -0500] "GET /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir+c: HTTP/1.0" 404 0 209.250.128.133 - - [08/Jun/2001:10:14:19 -0500] "GET /msadc/..%e0%80%af../..%e0%80%af../..%e0%80%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir+c: HTTP/1.0" 404 0 From what I can tell, I think someone tried to use holes in either MS Personal Web Server or IIS to exploit your server. I'd guess IIS, since they tried to run a command using the interpreter located in c:\winnt, meaning you were running Windows 2000 or NT. 61.139.59.73 - - [08/Jun/2001:16:38:03 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.1" 404 0 I bet some script was just looking to see if you were running a web server; if you have a telnet server installed on your machine, try telnetting into port 80, and type: GET http://www.yahoo.com with two CRLFs after it. This should produce the same error as this one in your access.log. And as for the last one, I have no clue, sorry. Whatever you come up with, I'd be interested to hear about. Also, everything I said above is just guesses; corrections and clarifications would be welcome from anyone. -Dan Orzechowski xbonesgt@cc.gatech.edu http://xbones.resnet.gatech.edu O is for OLIVE, run through with an awl. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 11 21:10:29 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:10:29 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] running server on RAM drive References: <200106091158.XAA03312@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <03c001c0f2b0$8dfb0ca0$a600a8c0@Michael> Message-ID: <3B2525B5.1F20B7E1@rci.rutgers.edu> > I've setup RAM drive recently, and consider putting web server pages on it to speed up access a bit. Is it worth it ...? My guesses are: Most current hard drives are faster than any network that carries other traffic, Disk-cache in Windows (and surely unix) will quickly fill with the most-used files and deliver them at RAM speed. This is a very real effect, I discovered years ago in DOS when I maxed-out the disk cache. After the first time I accessed a file, the next time(s) it loaded as if from RAM drive, unless I had opened more than 8 megs (SmartDrv's limit) of files in the meantime. I think your RAM drive is just taking RAM away from Windows' disk cache. And Windows' disk cache actually works well, and is probably at least as fast as the antique code in RAMdrive. I could see a RAM drive in the case where you have rarely used files that MUST load quickly. Being rarely used, they will fall out of disk cache between uses. But with the relative speeds of modern drives and the typical congested network link, you may not be able to see the difference at the browser. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 11 22:21:32 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael S. Kazarin) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:21:32 +0400 Subject: [Xitami] running server on RAM drive References: <200106091158.XAA03312@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <03c001c0f2b0$8dfb0ca0$a600a8c0@Michael> <3B2525B5.1F20B7E1@rci.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <03ca01c0f2bc$7eea1f60$a600a8c0@Michael> Actually, the RAM drive resides in non-paged memory pool, therefore the data it holds is never written to disk except changes to data if any are written on an hourly schedule. | My guesses are: | | Most current hard drives are faster than any network that carries other | traffic, | | Disk-cache in Windows (and surely unix) will quickly fill with the most-used | files and deliver them at RAM speed. This is a very real effect, I discovered | years ago in DOS when I maxed-out the disk cache. After the first time I | accessed a file, the next time(s) it loaded as if from RAM drive, unless I had | opened more than 8 megs (SmartDrv's limit) of files in the meantime. | | I think your RAM drive is just taking RAM away from Windows' disk cache. And | Windows' disk cache actually works well, and is probably at least as fast as | the antique code in RAMdrive. | | I could see a RAM drive in the case where you have rarely used files that MUST | load quickly. Being rarely used, they will fall out of disk cache between | uses. But with the relative speeds of modern drives and the typical congested | network link, you may not be able to see the difference at the browser. | | -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 06:42:53 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (hank doe) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:12:53 +0430 Subject: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin Message-ID: hi there, possibly this is a very simple thing but i can't get it set up... i have multiple users on my webserver with their own homedirs. their pages' url result in something like this: http://www.dummy.com/users//..... i've got 2 problems now. the first one is about cgi's. 1) how do i setup cgi-dirs for every of those users ? the 2nd) (i suppose this is the more elegant way) can i achieve the same with virtual hosts ? and how to setup them, probably there is an idiot proof instruction manual ? :-) many thanks in advance for your help! bye, hank. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 09:26:12 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:26:12 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] running server on RAM drive In-Reply-To: Message from "Michael S. Kazarin" of "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:56:03 +0400." <03c001c0f2b0$8dfb0ca0$a600a8c0@Michael> Message-ID: <200106120826.UAA12952@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <03c001c0f2b0$8dfb0ca0$a600a8c0@Michael>, "Michael S. Kazarin" writes: >I'm running Xitami 2.5b5 on w2k sp2. >I've setup RAM drive recently, and consider putting web server pages on it >to speed up access a bit. Is it worth it and are there any limitations? The main limitation is that obviously you can't keep the master copy of things on your ram drive, as it will go away when you reboot :-) Which means you've got to handle copying things into the ram drive on startup, and making sure you copy anything you want to keep off before you reboot (which is a pain if you are forced to reboot without shutting down cleanly). As to whether it is worth it, that is a much harder question these days: modern OS (and W2K is modern enough for this purpose) cache things that have been read from the disk pretty well. So that things which are being used are kept in memory (in the disk cache) even if their permanent home is on a real disk. So basically a ram disk is betting that you know better than the OS what is being used a lot: it certainly used to be true with DOS, but it's far less true with a modern OS. Usually the ram is better just left for the OS to use for caching; but experiment and see what you think. Remember that ram you take for the ram drive won't be available for running programs; which if you have limited ram can force the machine to swap, which is rather... bad. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 09:43:00 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:43:00 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin In-Reply-To: Message from "hank doe" of "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:12:53 +0430." Message-ID: <200106120843.UAA14202@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "hank doe" writes: >http://www.dummy.com/users//..... > >i've got 2 problems now. the first one is about cgi's. >1) how do i setup cgi-dirs for every of those users ? Set the "cgi anywhere" flag (beware, this is a security risk if you let people upload their own content: they can upload and run any program they like on your system). [CGI] wildcard=1 controls this. >the 2nd) (i suppose this is the more elegant way) >can i achieve the same with virtual hosts ? and how to setup them, >probably there is an idiot proof instruction manual ? :-) If you can live with urls like: http://username.example.com/ then you can give each a virtual host. You can set these up in the virtual host portion of the web based admin -- and once you've got the config files for one you'll probably find you can easily replicate them by copying an existing one and changing the names. With the virtual host approach you can give each their own cgi-bin directory, and webpages directory and so on. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 13:46:16 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Craig Morrison) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:46:16 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] running server on RAM drive References: <200106120826.UAA12952@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <3B260F18.2A379E40@2cah.com> To go along with this line of thinking.. The non-paged memory pool on Win32 platforms is *not* something you want to run short of. In an earlier message it was stated that the RAM disk was held in this memory pool. Bad idea, on a high-load server, if this pool runs short your machine will crash and die a horrible death. Ewen McNeill wrote: > > So basically a ram disk is betting that you know better than the OS what > is being used a lot: it certainly used to be true with DOS, but it's > far less true with a modern OS. Usually the ram is better just left for > the OS to use for caching; but experiment and see what you think. > Remember that ram you take for the ram drive won't be available for > running programs; which if you have limited ram can force the machine to > swap, which is rather... bad. -- Craig Morrison MTS Professional @ http://www.2cah.com/ A Win32 Email server that works for _you_. EzMTS - A _free_ Win32 EMail Server http://www.ezmts.org/ Anonymous FTP at ftp://ftp.ezmts.org From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 14:37:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Linda B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:37:57 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin References: Message-ID: Why are you using this email address? ----- Original Message ----- From: "hank doe" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:42 AM Subject: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin > hi there, > > possibly this is a very simple thing but i can't get it set up... > i have multiple users on my webserver with their own homedirs. > their pages' url result in something like this: > http://www.dummy.com/users//..... > > i've got 2 problems now. the first one is about cgi's. > 1) how do i setup cgi-dirs for every of those users ? > > the 2nd) (i suppose this is the more elegant way) > can i achieve the same with virtual hosts ? and how to setup them, > probably there is an idiot proof instruction manual ? :-) > > many thanks in advance for your help! > > bye, > hank. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 14:44:52 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Linda B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:44:52 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin References: Message-ID: Why? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda B" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin > Why are you using this email address? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hank doe" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:42 AM > Subject: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin > > > > hi there, > > > > possibly this is a very simple thing but i can't get it set up... > > i have multiple users on my webserver with their own homedirs. > > their pages' url result in something like this: > > http://www.dummy.com/users//..... > > > > i've got 2 problems now. the first one is about cgi's. > > 1) how do i setup cgi-dirs for every of those users ? > > > > the 2nd) (i suppose this is the more elegant way) > > can i achieve the same with virtual hosts ? and how to setup them, > > probably there is an idiot proof instruction manual ? :-) > > > > many thanks in advance for your help! > > > > bye, > > hank. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > -- > > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 14:51:30 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Linda B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:51:30 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] Remove me from your list Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C0F31C.DFFCE2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Remove me from your list ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C0F31C.DFFCE2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C0F31C.DFFCE2A0-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 15:31:07 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (david) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:31:07 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin References: Message-ID: <3B2627AB.56848A5C@evernet.net> Because you subscribed to the list yourself. Linda, there is a neat little tool created just for you. And the kind folks at Imatix have put it right here: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > Why are you using this email address? -- "The report of my death was an exaggeration." From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 15:28:51 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:28:51 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Remove me from your list In-Reply-To: Message from "Linda B" of "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:51:30 EST." Message-ID: <200106121428.CAA17658@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "Linda B" writes: >Remove me from your list I've removed Linda from the mailing list. For others who want to unsubscribe, you can easily do it yourself at the webpage: To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami Or by email to xitami-request@lists.xitami.org Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 16:22:04 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:04 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] running server on RAM drive References: <200106091158.XAA03312@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <03c001c0f2b0$8dfb0ca0$a600a8c0@Michael> <3B2525B5.1F20B7E1@rci.rutgers.edu> <03ca01c0f2bc$7eea1f60$a600a8c0@Michael> Message-ID: <3B26339C.35FBAB78@rci.rutgers.edu> > the RAM drive resides in non-paged memory pool, therefore the data it holds is never written to disk Hmmm... I don't think I even addressed the issue of writing. > changes to data if any are written on an hourly schedule. And certainly I'm sure you know that a RAM drive doesn't copy to disk by itself, so I guess you'll be using a timer and script to handle that bit. I used RAM drives a LOT, back in MFM days when hard drives were slightly faster than a telegraph. I'm aware that they are still useful stages for program compilation, where there is much disk work but only the final result has to be saved. But on a web server, my guess is that disk speed is almost never a limit. Try it and let us know. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 16:25:45 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:25:45 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] virtual hosts / multiple cgi-bin References: Message-ID: <3B263479.DFA4473A@rci.rutgers.edu> > can i achieve the same with virtual hosts ? What Ewen says. Note that this requires additional DNS entries, whereas www.dummy.com/JohnSmith/ only requires that www.dummy.com be registered in DNS. If you manage your own DNS, no problem. And the username entries can be CNAME pointers to the one IP entry. If you buy DNS service from somewhere else, adding hostnames to DNS may cost you money. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 12 19:26:27 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:26:27 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Remove me from your list Message-ID: <42351@dsl.co.uk> In message <200106121428.CAA17658@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Ewen McNeill writes: > In message , "Linda B" writes: > >Remove me from your list > > I've removed Linda from the mailing list. > > For others who want to unsubscribe, you can easily do it yourself at the > webpage: > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > Or by email to xitami-request@lists.xitami.org Moreover, the instructions are in the headers of EVERY post on the list; it's only morons like Linda who send "unsubscribe" requests TO a list itself: everyone else ought to know better and FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS. Sheesh! -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 03:15:55 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Richards) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 03:15:55 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Access Log In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The first two, are exploits in IIS - microsoft's web server, with regards to uni-code strings. The 3rd one would be scanning for web proxy's which could be used anonymously. The 4th string appears to be what the ftp service logs in xitami when a user issues an "ls" command. This seems like a confusing way to log this? ewen? Paul Richards -----Original Message----- From: xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org [mailto:xitami-admin@lists.xitami.org]On Behalf Of Hans Stuck Sent: 11 June 2001 20:41 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: [Xitami] Access Log I have noticed anonymous attempts to FTP my server, which I think is strange since I haven't informed anyone of my webserver... so I think they may be using a scanner. Here are a few exerpts that interest me: 209.250.128.133 - - [08/Jun/2001:10:14:18 -0500] "GET /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir+c: HTTP/1.0" 404 0 209.250.128.133 - - [08/Jun/2001:10:14:19 -0500] "GET /msadc/..%e0%80%af../..%e0%80%af../..%e0%80%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+d ir+c: HTTP/1.0" 404 0 61.139.59.73 - - [08/Jun/2001:16:38:03 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.1" 404 0 62.42.174.237 - anonymous [08/Jun/2001:17:12:27 -0500] "ftp://62.42.174.237/C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\./ls000001.ftp" 226 -1 Can anyone explain the significance of these? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 10:19:21 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:19:21 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Access Log In-Reply-To: Message from "Paul Richards" of "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 03:15:55 +0100." Message-ID: <200106130919.VAA27186@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "Paul Richards" writes: >>62.42.174.237 - anonymous [08/Jun/2001:17:12:27 -0500] >>"ftp://62.42.174.237/C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\./ls000001.ftp" 226 -1 > >The 4th string appears to be what the ftp service logs in xitami when a user >issues an "ls" command. Yes, that's correct. As far as I can tell what gets logged is: ftp://YOURIPADDRESS/TEMPDIRNAME/TEMPFILENAME wher YOURIPADDRESS is the IP address they FTP'd to; TEMPDIRNAME is whatever name you've told Xitami to use for temporary files (by default it is "temp" which uses the value of the TEMP environment variable if set), and TEMPFILENAME is the temporary file Xitami creates with the directory listing in it prior to sending it. >This seems like a confusing way to log this? ewen? The difficulty is that Xitami tries to log these in the same log as the HTTP requests, and hence needs to make them "distinct" in some way. And "ls" type requests don't transfer a real file. Suggestions for alternatives welcomed. Maybe it has to be a separate log? Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 15:14:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ethereal Being) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] Xitami with ASP with MS Access 2000 In-Reply-To: <200106051523.DAA21341@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <20010613141457.47235.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Dear All, I'm using Xitami v2.5b5 on Win98. I've been looking around quite laboriously for the past few days on how to get xitami to support ASP. This is what I discovered: 1) Halcyonsoft Instant ASP (iASP) works with Xitami and MS Access 2000 (which requires ASP) - read this on iASP's forum. BUTTTTTTT ... I can't find where to download a free version of iASP (i saw free version of iASP on the net (version 1.08 at cnet.download.com) but no longer downloadable! My question: 1) Are there any other ways of getting xitami to support ASP and this 'ASP ad-on' will work with MS Access 2000? 2) If not, does anyone have the free version (v1.08). If yes, could you kindly upload to your XITAMI web server, and let me know of the URL? thanks a quadzillion __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 15:24:44 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (david) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:24:44 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami with ASP with MS Access 2000 References: <20010613141457.47235.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B2777AC.10AF16A6@evernet.net> Is Micro$oft Ever Free? :-) Well good luck on getting Xitami to support ASP. You do have options though. You could go with a language more powerful than ASP. Such as ColdFusion or PHP or JSP. Those are all supported nicely on Xitami. And they are all Free. There is a Free Version of CF, PHP has always been free and so is JSP. And for connecting to Access 2000, that should be snap with any interpreter that supports ODBC. > 1) Are there any other ways of getting xitami to > support ASP and this 'ASP ad-on' will work with MS > Access 2000? david --- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 16:27:40 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Matt Jaworski) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:27:40 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's Message-ID: <005701c0f41d$61f72670$a65c5f80@neelix> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C0F3E2.B58DA010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, Ive got the right information in the right places now. I have set the Aliases as instructed. (There are no # signs before them either :) ) My final question is this: How do I link up the info in another drive? Do I just put an html file in the drive and link to it like this? - http://www.whatever.com/dummy.html? or do I have to specify the drive letter? Everytime I try to do this Nothing happens or I get a page that says "The URL you asked for does not exist on this website". Thanks again ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C0F3E2.B58DA010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ok, Ive got the=20 right information in the right places now.
I have set=20 the Aliases as instructed. (There are no # = signs

before them either :) )

My final = question is=20 this:

How do I link up the info in another drive?

Do I = just put an=20 html file in the drive and link to it like this?
- = http://www.whatever.com/dummy.html?

or do I have to specify the drive letter? Everytime I = try to do=20 this
Nothing happens or I get a page that says "The URL you = asked
for does=20 not exist on this website".

Thanks=20 again

------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C0F3E2.B58DA010-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 16:37:03 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Matt Jaworski) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:37:03 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's References: <005701c0f41d$61f72670$a65c5f80@neelix> Message-ID: <007301c0f41e$b1cef320$a65c5f80@neelix> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C0F3E4.056852F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nevermind... im an idiot.. it works. Thanks guys ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Jaworski=20 To: xitami@lists.xitami.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's Ok, Ive got the right information in the right places now. I have set the Aliases as instructed. (There are no # signs before them either :) ) My final question is this: How do I link up the info in another drive? Do I just put an html file in the drive and link to it like this? - http://www.whatever.com/dummy.html? or do I have to specify the drive letter? Everytime I try to do this Nothing happens or I get a page that says "The URL you asked for does not exist on this website". Thanks again ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C0F3E4.056852F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

nevermind... im an idiot.. it = works.

Thanks guys

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt Jaworski
To: xitami@lists.xitami.org =

Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 = 8:27=20 AM

Subject: [Xitami] Setting = Alias's

Ok, Ive got=20 the right information in the right places now.
I=20 have set the Aliases as instructed. (There are no #=20 signs

before them either :) )

My final = question is=20 this:

How do I link up the info in another drive?

Do I = just put=20 an html file in the drive and link to it like = this?
-=20 http://www.whatever.com/dummy.html?

or do I have to specify the = drive=20 letter? Everytime I try to do this
Nothing happens or I get a page = that=20 says "The URL you asked
for does not exist on this = website".

Thanks=20 again

------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C0F3E4.056852F0-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 16:49:44 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:49:44 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's In-Reply-To: Message from "Matt Jaworski" of "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:27:40 MST." <005701c0f41d$61f72670$a65c5f80@neelix> Message-ID: <200106131549.DAA30309@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <005701c0f41d$61f72670$a65c5f80@neelix>, "Matt Jaworski" writes: >How do I link up the info in another drive? Create an alias that points at that other drive (or preferably a directory on it), eg: [Alias] mydir=d:\mydir Then you can use URLs like: http://www.example.com/mydir/myfile.html You can't use drive letters directly in URLs. (And even indirectly you can use them only in file:/// URLs which work ONLY on your local PC.) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 17:50:13 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dragonballz Insane) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] Cgi-bin? Why does it show things? In-Reply-To: <007301c0f41e$b1cef320$a65c5f80@neelix> Message-ID: <20010613165013.89505.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com> I'm running WIN 98 with Xitami 2beta5 and was wondering why it is that everyone can view my cgi-bin all they have to do is http://mydomain/cgi-bin and it shows them everything thats in there. Is there a way to restrict this so people may not see into it but are able to exitcute cgi programs and perl programs? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 18:12:32 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Kevin) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:12:32 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] SSI not working Message-ID: <005201c0f42c$09354bc0$1e0a010a@cocentric.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C0F3F1.5C2E9B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I installed 2.4d9 and the latest activestate perl build. I changed my = #! path in my cgi to the path to perl. When I link directly to the = cgi(an image counter) it executes and displays perfectly. But if I try = to execute it with SSI it basically skips it. I realized the html file = I was executing it in did not have the .shtml extension so I changed it = to .shtml and now I get a 500 server error. None of the page loads at = all. I have read the FAQ and haevn't found anything about getting a = .shtml file to work. Please help :) -kevin ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C0F3F1.5C2E9B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I installed 2.4d9 and the latest = activestate perl=20 build. I changed my #! path in my cgi to the path to perl. = When I=20 link directly to the cgi(an image counter) it executes and displays=20 perfectly. But if I try to execute it with SSI it basically skips=20 it. I realized the html file I was executing it in did not have = the .shtml=20 extension so I changed it to .shtml and now I get a 500 server = error. None=20 of the page loads at all. I have read the FAQ and haevn't found = anything=20 about getting a .shtml file to work. Please help :)

-kevin

------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C0F3F1.5C2E9B00-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 19:05:36 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:05:36 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Xitami with ASP with MS Access 2000 Message-ID: <42357@dsl.co.uk> In message <20010613141457.47235.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Ethereal Being writes: > Dear All, > > I'm using Xitami v2.5b5 on Win98. > > I've been looking around quite laboriously for the > past few days on how to get xitami to support ASP. > > This is what I discovered: > > 1) Halcyonsoft Instant ASP (iASP) works with Xitami > and MS Access 2000 (which requires ASP) - read this on > iASP's forum. BUTTTTTTT ... I can't find where to > download a free version of iASP (i saw free version of > iASP on the net (version 1.08 at cnet.download.com) > but no longer downloadable! I downloaded it (for work) from www.halcyonsoft.com; look for their "Developer's Edition" which is a 9MB self-installing EXE file. Only permits ten concurrent connections. I am having some problems with this, and am in e-mail dialogue with one of Halcyon's people. If anyone else *here* has experience of using iASP with Xitami under Windoze (I'm using 2.4d9 on Win95C), I'm sure it would be of interest to Ethereal Being and myself. (In particular, the two "problems" I've found to date are: 1) iASP doesn't provide a Content-Length HTTP header on the documents it serves up (even if they actually have no dynamic content at all, but just happen to have the .asp extension). This results in the client (ie the browser) sitting there awaiting further data, until either it or the Xitami server decide to expire a timeout and close the TCP/IP channel 2) I've been unable to instantiate a VBscript object of the RegExp class; e.g. dim reg set reg = new RegExp iASP (or something) barfs on the latter, and instead of returning the expected HTML, gives a message about being unable to create an ActiveX object. Has anyone else had these, or similar, experiences with iASP?) -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 13 19:16:54 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:16:54 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Setting Alias's Message-ID: <42358@dsl.co.uk> In message <007301c0f41e$b1cef320$a65c5f80@neelix> "Matt Jaworski" writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C0F3E4.056852F0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > nevermind... im an idiot.. it works. [snip] > ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C0F3E4.056852F0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >

nevermind... im an idiot.. it = > works.

One might be inclined to agree; it's very mailing-list-hostile to dual post in ASCII and HTML. The latter should ONLY be sent to consenting adults after prior agreement; mailing lists (and newsgroups, for that matter) should be sent *plain* ASCII text *only*. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 00:48:27 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Kevin) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:48:27 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Cgi problems Message-ID: <000201c0f463$5dfd60c0$0600a8c0@socal.rr.com> Using 2.4D9 Xitami server,activestate perl,windows ME,cgi enabled. I am able to execute an image-based counter cgi successfully if I link directly to the cgi. Ie. http://host.com/cgi-bin/mycgi.pl But when using SSI call to the cgi inside a .html page the cgi is not exectuted and no cgierr is generated. If I change the extension of the same page to .shtml then the page is not shown and I get a 500 internal server error. Once again not cgierr is generated. Your help is appreciated -kevin From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 00:55:34 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ethereal Being) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] Xitami with ASP with MS Access 2000 In-Reply-To: <42357@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010613235534.52402.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> thank you brian. found it, downloading it, and will try it out. --- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > In message > <20010613141457.47235.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> > Ethereal Being writes: > > Dear All, > > > > I'm using Xitami v2.5b5 on Win98. > > > > I've been looking around quite laboriously for the > > past few days on how to get xitami to support ASP. > > > > This is what I discovered: > > > > 1) Halcyonsoft Instant ASP (iASP) works with > Xitami > > and MS Access 2000 (which requires ASP) - read > this on > > iASP's forum. BUTTTTTTT ... I can't find where to > > download a free version of iASP (i saw free > version of > > iASP on the net (version 1.08 at > cnet.download.com) > > but no longer downloadable! > > I downloaded it (for work) from www.halcyonsoft.com; > look for their > "Developer's Edition" which is a 9MB self-installing > EXE file. Only > permits ten concurrent connections. > > I am having some problems with this, and am in > e-mail dialogue with one > of Halcyon's people. If anyone else *here* has > experience of using iASP > with Xitami under Windoze (I'm using 2.4d9 on > Win95C), I'm sure it would > be of interest to Ethereal Being and myself. > > (In particular, the two "problems" I've found to > date are: > 1) iASP doesn't provide a Content-Length HTTP > header on the documents > it serves up (even if they actually have no > dynamic content at all, > but just happen to have the .asp extension). > This results in the > client (ie the browser) sitting there awaiting > further data, until > either it or the Xitami server decide to expire > a timeout and close > the TCP/IP channel > 2) I've been unable to instantiate a VBscript > object of the RegExp > class; e.g. > dim reg > set reg = new RegExp > iASP (or something) barfs on the latter, and > instead of returning the > expected HTML, gives a message about being > unable to create an > ActiveX object. > Has anyone else had these, or similar, experiences > with iASP?) > > -- > Brian {Hamilton Kelly} > bhk@dsl.co.uk > "We have gone from a world of concentrated > knowledge and wisdom to one of > distributed ignorance. And we know and > understand less while being incr- > easingly capable." Prof. Peter > Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 01:23:54 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dragonballz Insane) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] Cgi problems In-Reply-To: <000201c0f463$5dfd60c0$0600a8c0@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <20010614002354.85528.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> I had the same problem running a forum board the perl program just runs to a blank screen why the program should run fine other perl and cgi program run fine why is that? --- Kevin wrote: > Using 2.4D9 Xitami server,activestate perl,windows > ME,cgi enabled. > I am able to execute an image-based counter cgi > successfully if I link > directly to the cgi. Ie. > http://host.com/cgi-bin/mycgi.pl > But when using SSI call to the cgi inside a .html > page the cgi is not > exectuted and no cgierr is generated. > If I change the extension of the same page to .shtml > then the page is > not shown and I get a 500 internal server error. > Once again not cgierr > is generated. > > Your help is appreciated > -kevin > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 02:47:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Thomas J. Hruska) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:47:48 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] Hi, I'm back :) Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010613204748.007fae50@pop.crosswinds.net> This is mostly a test message, but I do have one question. Supposedly the archives are located at , but I can't get to them (Wrong address? Server down?). I need to catch up on the past few months discussions (I'm on 10 different mailing lists, so it takes me a while to realize that my address has been removed by the mail server - mail bounces on occasion). It's nice to be back...I see that Xitami's been updated and XiFusion v2.5 finally got added to the add-ons section of the website (that way I don't have to keep sounding like a broken record :) Thomas J. Hruska -- shinelight@crosswinds.net Shining Light Productions -- "Meeting the needs of fellow programmers" http://www.shininglightpro.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 03:21:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Scott Drake) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:21:57 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Hi, I'm back :) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010613204748.007fae50@pop.crosswinds.net> Message-ID: <200106140221.f5E2Lc312787@www.ecdiscounts.com> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:47:48 -0500, Thomas J. Hruska wrote: >This is mostly a test message, but I do have one question. >Supposedly the archives are located at >, but I can't get to them (Wrong Thomas, check out http://xitami.ec-computers.net those are where the archives are from 1997 to May 05, 2001 before we changed over the list to Xitami.org. Once I have a little bit of time I will be archiving these up and sending them over to Ewen to put on Xitami.org's site. Regards, Scott Drake East Coast Discounts http://www.ecdiscounts.com Check out our Wholesale Agent Program Promotion at http://www.ecdiscounts.com/agent.html Check out our items we have for sale at: http://www.bargainandhaggle.com/listing/listing.asp?txtUserName=ecdiscounts&hdnsearch=1 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 08:36:20 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael S. Kazarin) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:36:20 +0400 Subject: [Xitami] Running Xitami as a service under Win9x References: <200106081055.WAA24910@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <002301c0f4a4$b6338ee0$659305c3@futures> Hi! Perhaps that info can help: Before I started exploring Xitami on w2k I used to run GUI version of Xitami on Win9x,ME (xiwin32.exe). There is the way to start Xitami at pre-login as a service. You simply hack a registry a bit. Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\RunServices. Create new REG_SZ there. Moify it to contain C:\Xitami\xiwin32.exe (or whatever your path will be). Bingo. Now your Xitami will start early before anyone logs in and stay running after logout till you shut down. Limitations: you will have no tray icon, you'll have to ctrl-alt-del/end task the server if you wish to stop or restart (except wba) the server. Mike. | This is largely because no one knows the answer :-) Windows 95/98 | really are not intended for running services on them; any attempts to do | otherwise are at best somewhat hopeful and as you have found. | | Basically from what I've been able to find out any "services" you run | under Windows 95 generally start when you log in, and stop when you log | out, and there's relatively little you can do about that. Apparently if | you install the NT Service version (bs3224d9.exe) under Windows 95 it | will register itself in basically the way that you have found. | | Alternatively you can run the DOS console version in a minimised window | as you have done (the "-s" switch doesn't do anything under DOS/Windows | other than print out the message you saw; it does useful things only in | Unix and OS/2). However as you've found, it'll be stopped when the user | logs out. | | Basically if you'll need to choose between: (a) having Xitami running | when a user is logged in, on a user workstation OS like Windows 95/98, | and (b) running Xitami on a more server oriented OS (Linux, Unix, | Windows NT/2000, even OS/2). | | Sorry about that. But unfortunately it's inherient in the way that | Windows 95/98 works: it's not intended to run "services" in the way | server OSes are, and Microsoft went to some lengths to make it more | difficult. | | Ewen | | -- | Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com | | -- | Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support | To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami | From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 10:25:46 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:25:46 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Hi, I'm back :) In-Reply-To: Message from "Scott Drake" of "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:21:57 -0400." <200106140221.f5E2Lc312787@www.ecdiscounts.com> Message-ID: <200106140925.VAA05565@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200106140221.f5E2Lc312787@www.ecdiscounts.com>, "Scott Drake" writes: >On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:47:48 -0500, Thomas J. Hruska wrote: >>Supposedly the archives are located at >>, but I can't get to them (Wrong That address works for me: http://lists.xitami.org/pipermail/xitami/ What error did you get when you tried to access them? As Scott notes, these archives are currently only for May and June this year (since the mailing list was moved). We hope to move over the archives of the older messages when we get a chance. Meanwhile the old archives are at: http://xitami.ec-computers.net/ Hope that helps. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 11:04:34 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (garry) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:04:34 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami and other web servers Message-ID: <001101c0f4b9$69b80a90$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> Hi i have used xitami for many years and am happy with it my question is how do you run say apache beside xitami and have the right server pick up when the request is to a domain hosted on it ? Garry Stanley Cable.net.nz Beta Data Solutions Ltd. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 12:20:11 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:20:11 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] xitami and other web servers In-Reply-To: Message from "garry" of "Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:04:34 +1200." <001101c0f4b9$69b80a90$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> Message-ID: <200106141120.XAA06549@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <001101c0f4b9$69b80a90$123d60cb@cable.net.nz>, "garry" writes: >Hi i have used xitami for many years and am happy with it >my question is how do you run say apache beside xitami and have the right >server pick up when the request is to a domain hosted on it ? I'm assuming that you want to run both on the same server, and both without any special port numbers, in which case your choices are: (a) run them on different IP addresses, and have the DNS for those domains point at the appropriate IP address. (b) have one server forward requests for some domains to the other server (Apache can do this with mod_proxy; Xitami needs some sort of add-on, perhaps a LRWP program, to do this). Of these (a) is somewhat easier to handle, but (b) will work just fine. However if your reason for running Xitami is to handle "simple" requests without bothering Apache, then (b) might not be such a good solution. For just testing, simply running them on different ports is often the easiest solution. (Both Xitami and Apache can be told to use different ports.) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 15:10:53 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:10:53 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Cgi-bin? Why does it show things? In-Reply-To: Message from Dragonballz Insane of "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:50:13 MST." <20010613165013.89505.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200106141410.CAA07988@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <20010613165013.89505.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com>, Dragonballz Insa ne writes: >I'm running WIN 98 with Xitami 2beta5 and was >wondering why it is that everyone can view my cgi-bin >all they have to do is http://mydomain/cgi-bin and it >shows them everything thats in there. It sounds like you've set [CGI] dirlist=1, which enables this behaviour; the default is 0 (ie, you cannot list the cgi-bin directory). Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 13:36:03 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:36:03 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Running Xitami as a service under Win9x Message-ID: <42390@dsl.co.uk> In message <002301c0f4a4$b6338ee0$659305c3@futures> "Michael S. Kazarin" writes: > Hi! > > Perhaps that info can help: > > Before I started exploring Xitami on w2k I used to run GUI version of Xitami > on Win9x,ME (xiwin32.exe). There is the way to start Xitami at pre-login as > a service. > You simply hack a registry a bit. Go to > HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\RunServices. Create new > REG_SZ there. Moify it to contain C:\Xitami\xiwin32.exe (or whatever your > path will be). Bingo. Now your Xitami will start early before anyone logs in BTDTGTTS. Yes indeed one can edit the registry like this, and it did indeed start up before anyone had logged in... > and stay running after logout till you shut down. However, this bit is untrue; the process is terminated as soon as the first user logs out again. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 16:20:26 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Thomas J. Hruska) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:20:26 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] Archives still not working... In-Reply-To: <42390@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010614102026.007a39b0@pop.crosswinds.net> I'm all caught up on the xitami.ec-computers.net or whatever the address was...but I still can't access the archives: From: There is a link to: Which returns the happy HTTP/404 Error. Thomas J. Hruska -- shinelight@crosswinds.net Shining Light Productions -- "Meeting the needs of fellow programmers" http://www.shininglightpro.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 16:51:27 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:51:27 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Archives still not working... In-Reply-To: Message from "Thomas J. Hruska" of "Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:20:26 EST." <3.0.6.32.20010614102026.007a39b0@pop.crosswinds.net> Message-ID: <200106141551.DAA08751@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3.0.6.32.20010614102026.007a39b0@pop.crosswinds.net>, "Thomas J. Hru ska" writes: >From: > >There is a link to: > > >Which returns the happy HTTP/404 Error. Congratulations, you have found a bug in Xitami :-) What seems to be happening is that Xitami was lower casing the URL somewhere along the way, but since this server is running on Linux, when it does that with paths that are actually in upper case, it can no longer access the directories: hence 404. I've worked around this temporarily (symbolic links), which will last until the end of the month (I hope), and obviously we'll put this bug onto our bug list :-) Thanks for chasing this up. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 14 22:58:24 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Thomas J. Hruska) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:58:24 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] PHP - Xitami - Acccess - Win NT In-Reply-To: <200106141551.DAA08751@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> References: <3.0.6.32.20010614102026.007a39b0@pop.crosswinds.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010614165824.007b4500@pop.crosswinds.net> Someone wrote earlier this month....: >Hi, > >I'm building a small intranet, for my company and i'm using >Php-Xitami-Access under windows NT(4). >Everything worked fine, when using with PWS (just for testing). After >migrating to Xitami, the problems start to begin: first, it was php = >problems >(i thought) then i realized that the problem was in this instruction: >header("location: blabla.php"). Then, running phpinfo(), realized that = >the >variable HTTP_SERVER_VARS["PATH_INFO"] had no value. (it has a value = >using >PWS) >tried to put a "/" into all header functions and it worked "almost" = >fine... >except the cases where i have my php files under sub-folders... somehow = >it >causes some problems with session variables (???) - lost all of them - = >and i >can't figure out why. >Tried everything i could imagine... and still no luck... > >Could someone bring some light to this problem? >Thanks in advance. XiFusion v2.5 (a link to it is now available from the Xitami add-ons page) will solve your problem. It will handle both relative and absolute page redirection (the latter is sent back to the browser for processing and forwarding). While XiFusion v2.5 is designed primarily for interfacing ColdFusion with Xitami, it provides an excellent wrapper for PHP (v4.x) as well. Hope that helps! Thomas J. Hruska -- shinelight@crosswinds.net Shining Light Productions -- "Meeting the needs of fellow programmers" http://www.shininglightpro.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 15 13:51:27 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Tim Fiddimore) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:51:27 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] PHP - Xitami - Acccess - Win NT In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010614165824.007b4500@pop.crosswinds.net> References: <200106141551.DAA08751@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <3B2A12DF.7662.3F077C@localhost> On 14 Jun 2001, at 16:58, Thomas J. Hruska wrote: > XiFusion v2.5 (a link to it is now available from the Xitami add-ons page) > will solve your problem. It will handle both relative and absolute page > redirection (the latter is sent back to the browser for processing and > forwarding). While XiFusion v2.5 is designed primarily for interfacing > ColdFusion with Xitami, it provides an excellent wrapper for PHP (v4.x) as > well. Thomas, the link doesnt work for me, I get redirected to crosswinds.net site, but there server wont allow to link to the file xifusion.zip Any ideas ? Regards Tim Fiddimore POSFORD DUVIVIER Engineer/Network Manager Tel: +44 (0)20 7222 2115 Fax: +44 (0)20 7222 2659 email tsf@posford-ln.co.uk From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 15 14:24:07 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:24:07 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] PHP - Xitami - Acccess - Win NT In-Reply-To: Message from "Tim Fiddimore" of "Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:51:27 +0100." <3B2A12DF.7662.3F077C@localhost> Message-ID: <200106151324.BAA17981@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3B2A12DF.7662.3F077C@localhost>, "Tim Fiddimore" writes: >On 14 Jun 2001, at 16:58, Thomas J. Hruska wrote: >> XiFusion v2.5 (a link to it is now available from the Xitami add-ons page) >> will solve your problem. It will handle both relative and absolute page >> redirection (the latter is sent back to the browser for processing and >> forwarding). While XiFusion v2.5 is designed primarily for interfacing >> ColdFusion with Xitami, it provides an excellent wrapper for PHP (v4.x) as >> well. > >Thomas, the link doesnt work for me, I get redirected to >crosswinds.net site, but there server wont allow to link to the file >xifusion.zip I've put a copy at: http://www.xitami.com./xifusion.zip As best I can tell the crosswinds.net site doesn't like the referer: header containing xitami.com in it; I'm not sure why. If I download it with the URL (without using a link) it works fine. If I use the link on the addons page, it fails; if I simulate using the link on the addons page (in a telnet session) I get a redirect to a webpage. I haven't changed the link on the xitami.com site yet. I'll wait until I hear from Thomas before changing it; maybe there is something else we can link to which will not cause the same problem, but will still allow Thomas to easily update his program when he wants to. Sorry for the inconvenience. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 16 23:40:53 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (David Griffiths) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:40:53 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] 2.4d9 Crash Message-ID: Hello all, Had a few crashes with 2.4d9, so I thought I'd drop a quick note here to see if anyone else had any problems: Error message was: Assertion Failed! Module c:\work\imatix\release\xitami-24\src\smt\smtlib.c, line 1309 Anyone have any ideas? Running the win32 executable (not service) on Win2k SP2. Dave. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 18 10:31:32 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:31:32 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] 2.4d9 Crash In-Reply-To: Message from "David Griffiths" of "Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:40:53 MST." Message-ID: <200106180931.VAA03108@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "David Griffiths" wr ites: >Had a few crashes with 2.4d9, so I thought I'd drop a quick note here to see >if anyone else had any problems: > >Error message was: > Assertion Failed! > Module c:\work\imatix\release\xitami-24\src\smt\smtlib.c, line 1309 That assertion checks that when the internal routines are trying to locate an internal method call, both the name of the "agent" (FTP, HTTP, etc), and the name of the method are defined. Since these should always be defined, I'm puzzled as to why you are receiving the messages you are. Do they happen after anything in particular has occured? Have you found a way to repeat them? 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From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 18 11:55:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:55:48 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message from Majordomo@palawatr.co.th of "Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:58:11 -0400." <200106180958.f5I9wBp25903@palawatr.co.th> Message-ID: <200106181055.WAA06039@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <200106180958.f5I9wBp25903@palawatr.co.th>, Majordomo@palawatr.co.th writes: >Subject: Majordomo results: [Xitami] (no subject) >Reply-To: Majordomo@palawatr.co.th >[....] I apologise for this noise on the mailing list. Someone, presumably at palawatr.co.th, appears to be feeding messages from the Xitami list to majordomo's subscription address, which is then replying to the mailing list, which then arrive at majordomo, which.... I have suspended mail for all users at palawatr.co.th, and hope that the problem will settle down soon (now that, hopefully, the loop is broken). If I doesn't I'll be removing all users from palawatr.co.th from the mailing list, and possibly banning them from resubscribing until I've had confirmation the problem has been resolved. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 19 01:54:39 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Bernd Luevelsmeyer) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 02:54:39 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010619005439.D832DB8103@christel.heitec.net> Hi, I'd like to introduce myself as the maintainer of the Xitami port on FreeBSD. Being the maintainer means, I'll have to see to it that Xitami compiles, installs and runs well on the FreeBSD platform. Apart from patching some sources and providing a proper makefile, this basically boils down to watching the xitami web site for announcements, and the rest is waiting for problem-mails from users. Hence, if you have any problems with or questions concerning Xitami on FreeBSD, I'd appreciate a mail about it. I can state that for me, Xitami runs just fine, at least the HTTP and CGI part of it (I don't use the FTP part because FreeBSD has a FTP server of its own). I'd like the log to be written via the syslog daemon though, rather than directly into files. In case you wonder what FreeBSD is, it's an open-source Unix, closely related to NetBSD and OpenBSD; please see http://www.freebsd.org/ for details. You find the Xitami port listet on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/www.html . Thanks, Bernd From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 19 01:55:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Don Gordon) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:55:57 +0800 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems References: <200106180931.VAA03108@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <000c01c0f85a$99d9b260$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Using Xitami v2.4d9 on Windows 98. Have set up directory password list in defaults.aut. This setup works fine except with IE when it encounters a web page that contains 2 Real Audio files. The page loads ok but when you click on the play button IE requests the Username & Password again before it will play the file. The problem does not occur if password restrictions are removed. I have waisted many an hour trying various configurations and HTML code but have had no success. Any help would be great before I try some alternative password protection software. Thanks Don From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 19 11:01:50 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:01:50 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems In-Reply-To: Message from "Don Gordon" of "Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:55:57 +0800." <000c01c0f85a$99d9b260$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200106191001.WAA19757@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <000c01c0f85a$99d9b260$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au>, "Don Gordon" writes: >Using Xitami v2.4d9 on Windows 98. Have set up directory password list in >defaults.aut. This setup works fine except with IE when it encounters a web >page that contains 2 Real Audio files. The page loads ok but when you click >on the play button IE requests the Username & Password again before it will >play the file. The problem does not occur if password restrictions are >removed. Is it IE requesting the username/password again? Or real player? There's two things I can think of which might be going on here: (a) the files are in different directories, and you've got two sets of protections being applied, with different realms. You can work around this problem by setting the realm name in the .aut file for both protected directories to be the same (and making sure the same usernames/passwords apply to both). (b) IE (which gets the authentication for the HTML page) and real player (which gets the authentication for the audio) do not talk to each other to exchange authentication information. Which mean that both have to ask for that information. This is certainly the case when real player is used externally, but I'm not sure if it is the case when it is embedded in a webpage. Basically if you are going to password protect both HTML and audio, and use two applications which don't talk to each other to exchange password information, then both will have to ask the user for the password information. There are ways to design a system that protects the HTML and audio without requiring the password to be entered twice, but it requires server-side code (CGIs, LRWP, servlets, etc), and doing much of the server-side authentication handling yourself, rather than relying on the webservers build in basic authentication. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 19 11:08:59 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:08:59 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message from Bernd Luevelsmeyer of "Tue, 19 Jun 2001 02:54:39 +0200." <20010619005439.D832DB8103@christel.heitec.net> Message-ID: <200106191008.WAA19920@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <20010619005439.D832DB8103@christel.heitec.net>, Bernd Luevelsmeyer w rites: >I'd like to introduce myself as the maintainer of the Xitami port on FreeBSD. Hi. I'd wondered who it was that was maintaining the FreeBSD port. >I can state that for me, Xitami runs just fine, at least the HTTP and >CGI part of it (I don't use the FTP part because FreeBSD has a FTP >server of its own). I'd like the log to be written via the syslog daemon >though, rather than directly into files. It's good to hear it works well. FWIW, most webservers write their own logfiles (eg, Apache does as well, as well as almost all the "tiny" http servesr I've seen), because they have special requirements for log files which syslog doesn't handle quite so well. We're in the process of trying to revamp the build system for all our open source software tools to make it a little more flexible, and hopefully a little more unix friendly. (I develop mainly under Debian Linux, but a number of the other iMatix developers are more Windows focused, and this shows in a few places in Xitami.) If there are particular things that cause a problem with the FreeBSD port which we could look at please let me know, either directly or ideally on the Xitami-Dev mailing list (you can subscribe at: http://lists.xitami.org./mailman/listinfo/xitami-dev or by emailing xitami-dev-request@lists.xitami.org) Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 07:37:29 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Don Gordon) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:37:29 +0800 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems References: <200106191001.WAA19757@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <000701c0f953$7b0faac0$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Thank you for the reply. The HTML file is located in a password protected directory while the sound file (109k) and movie file (188k) are in subdirectories of the above. The problem does not occur in Netscape and is occasionally fixed if the page is refreshed in IE, but not always. I have also experimented using .ra as well as .rpm files, no difference. The problem does not occur if the web page has only one RealAudio file or if tested on the same computer as the server. I have also tried setting same usernames and passwords to the subdirectories with no effect. You can check the test site at http://130.95.10.131/test/lesson01-08.html. The username and password are both "test". The site is normally set up for an intranet so loading may be slow. If by some small chance the page plays normally, clear IE's temporary files and reload. Further assistance would be appreciated. Don Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ewen McNeill" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [Xitami] Password problems > In message <000c01c0f85a$99d9b260$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au>, "Don Gordon" writes: > >Using Xitami v2.4d9 on Windows 98. Have set up directory password list in > >defaults.aut. This setup works fine except with IE when it encounters a web > >page that contains 2 Real Audio files. The page loads ok but when you click > >on the play button IE requests the Username & Password again before it will > >play the file. The problem does not occur if password restrictions are > >removed. > > Is it IE requesting the username/password again? Or real player? > > There's two things I can think of which might be going on here: > (a) the files are in different directories, and you've got two sets of > protections being applied, with different realms. You can work > around this problem by setting the realm name in the .aut file > for both protected directories to be the same (and making sure the > same usernames/passwords apply to both). > > (b) IE (which gets the authentication for the HTML page) and real player > (which gets the authentication for the audio) do not talk to each > other to exchange authentication information. Which mean that both > have to ask for that information. This is certainly the case when > real player is used externally, but I'm not sure if it is the case > when it is embedded in a webpage. > > Basically if you are going to password protect both HTML and audio, and > use two applications which don't talk to each other to exchange password > information, then both will have to ask the user for the password > information. > > There are ways to design a system that protects the HTML and audio > without requiring the password to be entered twice, but it requires > server-side code (CGIs, LRWP, servlets, etc), and doing much of the > server-side authentication handling yourself, rather than relying on the > webservers build in basic authentication. > > Ewen > > -- > Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 09:25:11 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:25:11 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems In-Reply-To: Message from "Don Gordon" of "Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:37:29 +0800." <000701c0f953$7b0faac0$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200106200825.UAA31398@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <000701c0f953$7b0faac0$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au>, "Don Gordon" writes: >The HTML file is located in a password protected directory while the sound >file (109k) and movie file (188k) are in subdirectories of the above. The >problem does not occur in Netscape and is occasionally fixed if the page is >refreshed in IE, but not always. I have also experimented using .ra as well >as .rpm files, no difference. Changing file type probably won't help; and if you change to the real "this is where to get the audio/video" index files (.rpu? I forget), then the problem wil probably get worse. >The problem does not occur if the web page has only one RealAudio file or >if tested on the same computer as the server. I have also tried setting >same usernames and passwords to the subdirectories with no effect. The default for subdirectories is to use the settings of the parent that is protected, and this seems to be what is happening in your case. However I'm puzzled by your statement that it doesn't happen if there is only one RealAudio file on the page; the factors I gave before would leave it either working or not working with 1 or more files on the page. What you might want to try doing is turning on the Xitami server debugging ([Server] debug=1), and then try loading the page. Once you've done that look at debug/debug.log to see what queries Xitami received, and how it handled them. My guess is that for some reason one of the queries must be missing the username/password -- but I'm puzzled why including two real files on the page causes that when including just one doesn't. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 10:34:32 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (dimitri) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:34:32 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support Message-ID: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> Hi all, When will you be providing shtml support to Xitami. There I was getting ready to use it for authoring some sites, only to find that I couldn't as Xitami doesn't support ssi - PHP great, thank goodness but where is SSI ? If you are working on this then what's the expected roll out date .. obviously a rough estimate. Dimitri - dimitri@easygoin-spam.net - remove -spam to mail - True Immortality is a sharing of knowledge & Ideas, not spam - From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 10:51:52 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Don Gordon) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:51:52 +0800 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems References: <200106200825.UAA31398@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <000501c0f96e$a216dce0$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Debug log for 2nd RealAudio file. Does this info give any clue to where the problem is occuring. I have also included the previous page which has only one RA file which plays fine. http://130.95.10.131/test/lesson01-08.html & http://130.95.10.131/test/lesson01-07.html Username & password "test" 2001/06/20 17:03:29: Resolving URI: /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - URL is in webpages directory webpages 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - URI=/test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra, rootdir=webpages 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - translated file name: webpages/test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - request refers to a normal readable file 2001/06/20 17:03:29: Looking for VH using Host value: 130.95.10.131 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - looking for VH using IP address: 130.95.10.131 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - using default virtual host values 2001/06/20 17:03:29: Resolving URI: /test/Images/L01-08.jpg 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - URL is in webpages directory webpages 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - URI=/test/Images/L01-08.jpg, rootdir=webpages 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - translated file name: webpages/test/Images/L01-08.jpg 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - request refers to a normal readable file 2001/06/20 17:03:29: Transfer file=webpages/test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra size=191945 offset=0 2001/06/20 17:03:29: Looking for VH using Host value: 130.95.10.131 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - looking for VH using IP address: 130.95.10.131 2001/06/20 17:03:29: - using default virtual host values 2001/06/20 17:03:29: Resolving URI: /test/Buttons/logo-no-txt-40.gif From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 11:09:39 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (garry) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:09:39 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> Message-ID: <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> dimitri you must be doing something wrong i have been using ssi with xitami for years Garry Stanley Cable.net.nz Beta Data Solutions Ltd. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 11:12:44 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:12:44 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support In-Reply-To: Message from "dimitri" of "Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:34:32 +0100." <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> Message-ID: <200106201012.WAA32209@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie>, "dimitri" writes: >When will you be providing shtml support to Xitami. >There I was getting ready to use it for authoring some sites, only to find >that I couldn't as Xitami doesn't support ssi - PHP great, thank goodness >but where is SSI ? Xitami 2.4d has SSI support through the PerlSSI filter. Xitami 2.5b (the beta version) has "built in" SSI support. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 13:06:52 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:06:52 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems In-Reply-To: Message from "Don Gordon" of "Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:51:52 +0800." <000501c0f96e$a216dce0$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200106201206.AAA01456@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <000501c0f96e$a216dce0$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au>, "Don Gordon" writes: >Debug log for 2nd RealAudio file. Does this info give any clue to where the >problem is occuring. I have also included the previous page which has only >one RA file which plays fine. Unfortunately it seems that the debug log doesn't show the detail I was hoping. We'll just have to make do with the access log: it should show a "401" response (authentication required) for the ones that are going to prompt for passwords, and a "200" response (found) when it sends the file out. Possibly the order in which the requests come in, and which ones get a 401 response will give us some idea what is going on. >From what you've said it appears for some reason that IE doesn't send the authentication information with the second Real element on the page (or Xitami doesn't accept it for some reason). Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 13:27:12 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:27:12 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Cgi problems In-Reply-To: Message from "Kevin" of "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:48:27 MST." <000201c0f463$5dfd60c0$0600a8c0@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <200106201227.AAA01659@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <000201c0f463$5dfd60c0$0600a8c0@socal.rr.com>, "Kevin" writes: >Using 2.4D9 Xitami server,activestate perl,windows ME,cgi enabled. >I am able to execute an image-based counter cgi successfully if I link >directly to the cgi. Ie. http://host.com/cgi-bin/mycgi.pl >But when using SSI call to the cgi inside a .html page the cgi is not >exectuted and no cgierr is generated. By default (and we recommend) .html files are not processed for ssi tags (it is too much of an overhead). >If I change the extension of the same page to .shtml then the page is >not shown and I get a 500 internal server error. Once again not cgierr >is generated. There is some problem in calling perl. Make sure you have Perl installed in a directory like c:\perl (ie, preferably with no spaces in its path name), and your PATH includes c:\perl\bin in it. If that doesn't help, you'll need to tell us more about the "500 internal server error" that you get -- the message includes details about what went wrong which can be helpful in figuring out the problem. Until perl can be started, you probably won't see anything in cgierr.log. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 13:41:14 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:41:14 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] filters, pdf, c In-Reply-To: Message from Shane D Pinder of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:22:59 EST." <3ADF0299.C7BD06CA@usask.ca> Message-ID: <200106201241.AAA01905@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <3ADF0299.C7BD06CA@usask.ca>, Shane D Pinder writes: >Ordinarily, if a client downloads a large .pdf file, the user can see a >progress indication that reassures them that the file is being transferred. >[With filter, do not] The progress indication can only be displayed if the total length to be sent is known; for some reason it seems that this information is being lost/omitted with the method you are using (or being ignored). The Content-Length: header usually contains this information, and Xitami should preserve this where possible. > printf("Content-length: %u\nContent-Type: application/pdf\n\n", > fsize); Random thought: does it make any difference if you use Content-Length: for the header name, rather than Content-length:? IIRC it's not supposed to be case sensitive, but perhaps something is treating it as case sensitive? If you are able to do so, you might also want to capture the headers sent back to the browser (eg, network traffic snooping) and see if the Content-Length: header is still present, and has the right value in it. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 15:14:10 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (dimitri) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:14:10 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> Message-ID: <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> Definitely doing something wrong, but then i'm an expert at that. I have been told it's through the Perl install and someconfig My pc is 98 and i have the latest Xitami version - i have been using Apache on this machine and i am only working on customer projects (design authoring) using this. But i would like to reinstall Xitami and configure it again This is cheeky - but would you mind possibly sending me your config file for me to work through and see what and how i have gone wrong before. Obviously i will need to assign my own paths etc, but it would really help as a comparison to what i think were the settings i need I will be installing Perl within the Xitami directory which will be on C:/Xitami Thanks for your time Dimitri - dimitri@easygoin-spam.net - remove -spam to mail - True Immortality is a sharing of knowledge & Ideas, not spam - ----- Original Message ----- From: "garry" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support dimitri you must be doing something wrong i have been using ssi with xitami for years Garry Stanley Cable.net.nz Beta Data Solutions Ltd. -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 16:51:59 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Patrick Olson) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:51:59 -0600 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> Message-ID: <3B30C69E.74449970@qwest.net> This is how I got Perl running in Xitami it allows me to use, This SSI command which is a potential security risk for your system is only accepted if the environment variable SSI_INSECURE is set to 'yes' Under Windows NT in the System Control Panel under 'Environment -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Start->Settings->Control Panel Double click on System >From the pop-up box select the Environment tab In the Variable entry field type SSI_INSECURE In the Value entry field type YES (Make sure it goes where you want it, System Variables probably.) Click OK Reboot? (I don't know if this is required.) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- under Windows 95/98 by adding SET SSI_INSECURE=yes to the autoexec.bat. to run SSI. If Perl is installed correctly? On a windows system, You then should be able to call Perl from anywhere in your system. This allows the shebang to be #! perl -w and does not need to be like this #! c:\perl\bin\perl.exe this also allows the use of #! /usr/bin/perl for the shebang. so as long as we don't use win32 specific modules or system calls we can keep our programs cross platform Compatible. Running Windows98 Xitami v2.4d6 in your autoexec.bat SET PATH=C:\PERL\BIN;%PATH% SET SSI_INSECURE=YES defaults.cfg [Filter] .shtm=perlssi .shtml=perlssi .ssi=perlssi [Ssi] Enabled=1 Exec=1 hope this helps http://www.isonline.com/xitami/2000/Jun/Msgs/l2w81135.html http://127.0.0.1/xitami/index5.htm http://127.0.0.1/xitami/index6.htm From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 18:22:53 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (dimitri) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:22:53 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> <3B30C69E.74449970@qwest.net> Message-ID: <001d01c0f9ad$a870d840$01000084@triggerhippie> Fantastic - it's amazing what can make me happy ! Thanks chaps - I realised what had happened before I had installed the Beta some time ago and was sure (ish) that I had ssi support somehow - the recent install was the last full release with config required, hence no ssi with the info below, I have it working - Thanks all. Last thing I promise - the server sometimes really slows and seems to freeze when I view the pages from the same p.c. 127.0.0.1 I have turned off cache pages and 'keep alive connections' but to no avail I am also having problems setting the thing up to emulate an Host - to use the expression from Apache - 'virtual' hosts - effectively client accounts that will have the path like this: /usr/users1/erevna/public_html and this is only to test locally not to serve - hence using computer name and ip - http://Triggerhippie/ or http://127.0.0.1/ would like to access via http://www.erevna.co.uk/ from my machine locally to test the cgi/perl scripts (/usr/bin/perl) and message board for this site - (opened can of worms now I have given you chaps the URL lol - mark 2 coming soon) I do apologise for all these questions but this is the best support I have so far. (should have joined the list ages ago - and yes I did read the documentation believe it or not - all Greek to me !) Dimitri - dimitri@easygoin-spam.net - remove -spam to mail - True Immortality is a sharing of knowledge & Ideas, not spam - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Olson" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support This is how I got Perl running in Xitami it allows me to use, Running Windows98 Xitami v2.4d6 in your autoexec.bat SET PATH=C:\PERL\BIN;%PATH% SET SSI_INSECURE=YES defaults.cfg [Filter] .shtm=perlssi .shtml=perlssi .ssi=perlssi [Ssi] Enabled=1 Exec=1 hope this helps http://www.isonline.com/xitami/2000/Jun/Msgs/l2w81135.html http://127.0.0.1/xitami/index5.htm http://127.0.0.1/xitami/index6.htm -- Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 20 22:02:51 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Roberto R. Morelli) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:02:51 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> <3B30C69E.74449970@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3B310F7B.18811C47@altair7.com> Folks, There is another way, I think better. I have a site http://www.altair7.com/index.html that uses a perl script for opening page, see for your self. I do not have the SSI_INSECURE set. I do have MIME types defined as following for the master config: .pl = c:\perl\bin\perlis.dll .cgi = c:\perl\bin\perlis.dll This solved all my problems. Steps: 1. http://127.0.0.1/admin 2. configuration -> mime 3. enter the above values 4. save 5. click on restart from the main page Done. With that done, then this works: http://www.altair7.com/cgi-bin/od.pl This works with xitami 2.4d1 through 7 and xitami pro versions. Hope that helps, always make sure that you protect your perl scripts. Cheers, -Roberto Patrick Olson wrote: > > This is how I got Perl running in Xitami > it allows me to use, > > > > This SSI command > which is a potential security risk for your system > is only accepted if the environment variable > SSI_INSECURE is set to 'yes' > Under Windows NT > in the System Control Panel > under 'Environment > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Start->Settings->Control Panel > > Double click on System > > From the pop-up box select the Environment tab > > In the Variable entry field type SSI_INSECURE > In the Value entry field type YES > (Make sure it goes where you want it, > System Variables probably.) > > Click OK > > Reboot? (I don't know if this is required.) > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > under Windows 95/98 by adding > SET SSI_INSECURE=yes to the autoexec.bat. > to run SSI. > If Perl is installed correctly? > On a windows system, > You then should be able to call > Perl from anywhere in your system. > This allows the shebang to be #! perl -w > and does not need to be like this > #! c:\perl\bin\perl.exe > this also allows the use of > #! /usr/bin/perl > for the shebang. so as long > as we don't use win32 specific modules > or system calls we can keep our programs > cross platform Compatible. > > Running Windows98 > Xitami v2.4d6 > > in your > autoexec.bat > > SET PATH=C:\PERL\BIN;%PATH% > SET SSI_INSECURE=YES > > defaults.cfg > [Filter] > .shtm=perlssi > .shtml=perlssi > .ssi=perlssi > [Ssi] > Enabled=1 > Exec=1 > > hope this helps > http://www.isonline.com/xitami/2000/Jun/Msgs/l2w81135.html > http://127.0.0.1/xitami/index5.htm > http://127.0.0.1/xitami/index6.htm > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 21 02:44:24 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Don Gordon) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:44:24 +0800 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems References: <200106200825.UAA31398@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <000501c0f96e$a216dce0$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <002801c0f9f3$b389de20$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0FA36.C17AC380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let's hope this info is of some use. Access.log (Nescape) - both RA files play. 130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET = /test/Sounds/L01-08.rpm HTTP/1.0" 304 0 130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET = /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0" 304 0 130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET = /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0" 304 0 Access.log (IE) - soud played ok, movie didn't (200 code, not 304). 130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET = /test/Sounds/L01-08.ra HTTP/1.1" 304 0 130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET = /test/Sounds/L01-08.ra HTTP/1.1" 304 0 130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET = /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1" 200 191945 130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET = /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1" 200 191945 Request.log (Netscape) GET /test/Sounds/L01-08.rpm HTTP/1.0 If-Modified-Since: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:12:24 GMT; length=3D110768 Connection: Keep-Alive User-Agent: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win98; I) Host: 130.95.10.131 Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, = */* Accept-Encoding: gzip Accept-Language: en Accept-Charset: iso-8859-1,*,utf-8 Authorization: Basic dGVzdDp0ZXN0 GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0 If-Modified-Since: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:29:52 GMT; length=3D191945 Connection: Keep-Alive User-Agent: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win98; I) Host: 130.95.10.131 Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, = */* Accept-Encoding: gzip Accept-Language: en Accept-Charset: iso-8859-1,*,utf-8 Authorization: Basic dGVzdDp0ZXN0 GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0 If-Modified-Since: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:29:52 GMT; length=3D191945 Connection: Keep-Alive User-Agent: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win98; I) Host: 130.95.10.131 Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, = */* Accept-Encoding: gzip Accept-Language: en Accept-Charset: iso-8859-1,*,utf-8 Authorization: Basic dGVzdDp0ZXN0 Request.log (IE) GET /test/Sounds/L01-08.ra HTTP/1.1 Accept: */* Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) Host: 130.95.10.131 Connection: Keep-Alive GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1 Accept: */* Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) Host: 130.95.10.131 Connection: Keep-Alive GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1 Accept: */* Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) Host: 130.95.10.131 Connection: Keep-Alive I have had a look at Paul Reid's site which works fine with multiple RA = files and password. The difference is that my RA files are embedded = which seems to cause the problem in IE. This problem is starting to look = like a too hard basket case. Any further advice would be gratefully = accepted. Don Gordon ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0FA36.C17AC380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Let's hope this info is of some use.

Access.log (Nescape) - both RA files play.

130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET=20 /test/Sounds/L01-08.rpm HTTP/1.0" 304 0
130.95.10.132 - test=20 [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0" = 304=20 0
130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET=20 /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0" 304 0

Access.log (IE) - soud played ok, movie didn't = (200 code,=20 not 304).

130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET=20 /test/Sounds/L01-08.ra HTTP/1.1" 304 0
130.95.10.132 - test=20 [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET /test/Sounds/L01-08.ra HTTP/1.1" 304=20 0
130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET=20 /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1" 200 191945
130.95.10.132 - test=20 [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1" 200 = 191945

Request.log (Netscape)

GET /test/Sounds/L01-08.rpm HTTP/1.0
If-Modified-Since: Tue, 11 = Jul 2000=20 00:12:24 GMT; length=3D110768
Connection: Keep-Alive
User-Agent:=20 Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
Host: 130.95.10.131
Accept: = image/gif,=20 image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, = */*
Accept-Encoding:=20 gzip
Accept-Language: en
Accept-Charset:=20 iso-8859-1,*,utf-8
Authorization: Basic dGVzdDp0ZXN0

GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0
If-Modified-Since: Sat, = 25 Nov=20 2000 15:29:52 GMT; length=3D191945
Connection: = Keep-Alive
User-Agent:=20 Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
Host: 130.95.10.131
Accept: = image/gif,=20 image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, = */*
Accept-Encoding:=20 gzip
Accept-Language: en
Accept-Charset:=20 iso-8859-1,*,utf-8
Authorization: Basic dGVzdDp0ZXN0

Request.log (IE)

GET /test/Sounds/L01-08.ra HTTP/1.1
Accept: = */*
Accept-Encoding:=20 gzip, deflate
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows = 98;=20 DigExt)
Host: 130.95.10.131
Connection: Keep-Alive

GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1
Accept: = */*
Accept-Encoding:=20 gzip, deflate
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows = 98;=20 DigExt)
Host: 130.95.10.131
Connection: Keep-Alive

I have had a look at Paul Reid's site which works fine with = multiple RA=20 files and password. The difference is that my RA files are embedded = which seems=20 to cause the problem in IE. This problem is starting to look like a too = hard=20 basket case. Any further advice would be gratefully accepted.

Don Gordon

------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0FA36.C17AC380-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 21 12:58:40 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Patrick Olson) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:58:40 -0600 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> <3B30C69E.74449970@qwest.net> <3B310F7B.18811C47@altair7.com> Message-ID: <3B31E170.902177C@qwest.net> "Roberto R. Morelli" wrote: > > Folks, > > There is another way, I think better. I have a site > http://www.altair7.com/index.html that uses a perl script for opening page, > see for your self. > > I do not have the SSI_INSECURE set. I do have MIME types defined as following > for the master config: > > .pl = c:\perl\bin\perlis.dll > .cgi = c:\perl\bin\perlis.dll > > This solved all my problems. > > Steps: > > 1. http://127.0.0.1/admin > 2. configuration -> mime > 3. enter the above values > 4. save > 5. click on restart from the main page > > Done. > > With that done, then this works: > > http://www.altair7.com/cgi-bin/od.pl > > This works with xitami 2.4d1 through 7 and xitami pro versions. > > Hope that helps, always make sure that you protect your perl scripts. > > Cheers, > -Roberto Cool Roberto I will add this as a option to this help text that I send to the list once in a while I usually just send a link but with the new mail-man here I think I will have to update my link From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 21 13:21:11 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael S. Kazarin) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:21:11 +0400 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support (environment var) References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> <3B30C69E.74449970@qwest.net> Message-ID: <00be01c0fa4c$aa1d4f80$659305c3@futeltra> | This is how I got Perl running in Xitami | it allows me to use, | | | | This SSI command | which is a potential security risk for your system | is only accepted if the environment variable | SSI_INSECURE is set to 'yes' | Under Windows NT | in the System Control Panel | under 'Environment This is not true for me on W2Ksp2 Xitami2.5b5. will run pretty well without ssi_insecure=yes. The latter only needed to run #exec cmd constructs, which certainly can expose you to risk much more than your own scripts. Therefore, I would NOT recommend to set SSI_INSECURE=YES Mike From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 21 13:30:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:30:57 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems In-Reply-To: Message from "Don Gordon" of "Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:44:24 +0800." <002801c0f9f3$b389de20$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200106211230.AAA13969@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <002801c0f9f3$b389de20$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au>, "Don Gordon" writes: >Let's hope this info is of some use. > >Access.log (Nescape) - both RA files play. > >130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET /test/Sounds/L01-08.rpm HTTP/1.0" 304 0 >130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0" 304 0 >130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:58:49 +0800] "GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.rpm HTTP/1.0" 304 0 > >Access.log (IE) - soud played ok, movie didn't (200 code, not 304). > >130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET /test/Sounds/L01-08.ra HTTP/1.1" 304 0 >130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET /test/Sounds/L01-08.ra HTTP/1.1" 304 0 >130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1" 200 191945 >130.95.10.132 - test [21/Jun/2001:08:56:07 +0800] "GET /test/Movies/L01s08-1.ra HTTP/1.1" 200 191945 This is just strange. 304 is "not modified" which means "the copy you've already got is up to date, you can use that"; 200 is "found" and means "here you go, here's a copy of the thing you requested". In _both_ cases it should play just fine, as both bits of audio are available without apparent problems. What I'm really puzzled about is IE getting a 304 return on both files (ie, being told the local copies are fine), and then deciding it needs to get a copy of them _anyway_. It almost looks like IE doesn't believe the webserver when it says the existing files are okay! I see you're using IE 5.0: is this the 5.0 with the security problems, or the 5.01 fixed version (I don't know if they report different User-Agent headings). In either case I would expect it to work, but apparently it isn't working "as expected". >I have had a look at Paul Reid's site which works fine with multiple RA >files and password. The difference is that my RA files are embedded >which seems to cause the problem in IE. This problem is starting to look >like a too hard basket case. Any further advice would be gratefully >accepted. One thing you might want to consider if it's causing you a lot of pain is "security through obscurity" -- put the RA files in a non-password protected directory, and just only link to them from your hidden page. Obviously anyone who knew the URL would then be able to get the RA files, but hopefully IE will then manage to cope. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 22 11:52:25 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:52:25 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems References: <200106211230.AAA13969@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <3B332369.1A46208F@rci.rutgers.edu> >I have had a look at Paul Reid's site which works fine with multiple RA >files and password. > One thing you might want to consider if it's causing you a lot of pain is "security through obscurity" -- put the RA files in a non-password protected directory, and just only link to them from your hidden page. I posted to Don off-list; I didn't want to tell everybody the details of my "security through obscurity" trick. But just as you say: the HTML file and a RAM file containing the URL(s) of the media file(s) are in an Xitami-password directory; the actual media files are in a "public" but not browsable folder (and a different machine and server, but that should not matter). The security risk is that someone might capture the RAM file; or the URL in standalone RealPlayer, and give it to unauthorized persons. > The difference is that my RA files are embedded which seems to cause the problem in IE. Don's page with embedded player is slick, I like it; but I had little luck with embedding more than one player per page. It is supposed to work, I've seen it work (without passwording), but it all seems very flaky to me. I think it is a low priority at Real.Inc. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 22 01:34:56 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Jerry Richer) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:34:56 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Why is my XITAMI server so slow? References: Message-ID: <004601c0fabc$3ac8aec0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> Paul thank you! My network cards are 10/100 cards and I set them to auto-negotiation and file transfers on my LAN are where they should be now. I can transfer 340 Megabytes in 6 minutes on my 10 MegaBit router. My FTP transfers are still slow. About 340 MegaBytes in 30 minutes from inside my LAN and 5 hours from outside the LAN both from within Adelphia.Net and outside on another cable service but I suspect my ISP Adelphia.Net has a throttle on this. They don't want people running any sort of servers and all technical information about their network is treated as a big secret. I suppose I'll just have to bide my time until we get a real ISP in the area. I had the network cards set to 10 MegaBits. I thought it made sense since I had a 10 MegaBit router and I thought it would speed things up. Paul wrote: "Are they 10MB network cards or 10/100MB network cards ? if so, are they set to auto-negotiation?" Thanks and take care. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Bat Arhonious Software ! Window Eyes, screen access from GW-Micro: www.ChirpingBat.Com/basgwm.html ! Try the new Triple Talk for the Latest, hottest hardware speech solution, $370 delivered anywhere in the USA ! Turn your FM radio into a monitor with the Radio Webcaster: www.RadioWebCaster.Com/cgi-bin/al/affiliates.cgi?10051051 ! Operate your computer from up to 100 feet away with our RF Keyboard / Mouse combination: www.ChirpingBat.Com/rfkeyboard.html Reach BA Software at: Phone: 518-359-8538, Email: Bat@ChirpingBat.Com, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 22 03:06:36 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (garry) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:06:36 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems References: <200106211230.AAA13969@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <3B332369.1A46208F@rci.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <003701c0fabf$f76edfb0$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> I have never really played with the passwords in xitami but i did write a perl script that checks login and password and once it confirms these it loads up a picture and delivers it to the user ....only the script knows where the picture is and it is therefore impossible to link to the picture directly. im sure that the same thing could be applied to your real audio files to hide them. my script allows for the originating directory to be anywhere on the drive and it can therefore be outside the web folders. another possibility is that you use perl to rename the file or dir each time it is accessed again making any links to it useless. Garry Stanley Cable.net.nz Beta Data Solutions Ltd. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 22 08:48:32 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Don Gordon) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:48:32 +0800 Subject: [Xitami] Password problems References: <200106211230.AAA13969@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <001601c0faef$be86b1c0$830a5f82@hm.uwa.edu.au> Thanks to Ewen & Paul. The problem still has not been resolved but seems to be likely caused by IE5, ActiveX or RealPlayer. I have written away to RealPlayer describing the fault to see if any further information can be obtained. In the meantime I will try security through obscurity of rewite these pages so that only one RA file exists per page. Netscape still has some advantages. I will let you know of any developments. Thanks Don Gordon From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 22 11:34:05 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Patrick Olson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:34:05 -0600 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support (environment var) References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> <3B30C69E.74449970@qwest.net> <00be01c0fa4c$aa1d4f80$659305c3@futeltra> Message-ID: <3B331F1D.FE8B76A7@qwest.net> "Michael S. Kazarin" wrote: > > This is not true for me on W2Ksp2 Xitami2.5b5. will run pretty well without ssi_insecure=yes. > The latter only needed to run #exec cmd constructs, which certainly can > expose you to risk much more than your own scripts. Therefore, I would NOT > recommend to set SSI_INSECURE=YES > > Mike > Did not set it and can still do SSI? I would think that the version your running may have a play in that cool have you or were you able to do this in earlier versions of Xitmai as 2.4d7 and lower I don't know enough about W2K and its operating system I am curently running Redhat 7.0 and windows98 98 needs this and was just going by the doc's for NT Hey I am going to have to download Xitmai for Linux and see how it goes Just compiled perl apache/php and mysql this week and got it running still new to Linux and having fun..... Pat From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 22 13:12:55 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (KD4SFD) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:12:55 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Max User Problem (Connections) Message-ID: <000f01c0fb14$b2488a30$1600a8c0@docs3a> I have to frequently change from a max of 3 users to 20 users (under W98SE xitami ver 2.5b.) I limit to 3 when I am home as to not slow up my connection, then the maximum users when I'm not around. I find that even after save, halt, and then start (or restart) of the server, the previous max connections, either 3 or blank, is still there. If I reboot, then the new settings are used. I have to Xitami servers going, on the normal port 80, the other on port 2080. I rarely have to do anything with the 2080 server, but I have to change the other about every 12 hours. Am I missing something? I thought that after saving, halt/start, or restart, it should use the new settings. The servers are in two different directories, with the ftp server active only on it's normal port 21, the one for 2021 is disabled. I know for the max connections on the FTP server you have to restart the computer, but not for the http server. This is a simple server, no cgi, no bells and whistles, just a LOT of MPEGs. All help is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks Docfester docfester@mindspring.com or kd4sfd@bellsouth.net "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered!!" -- The Prisoner Jill Hennessy Site: www.geocities.com/~docfester/ Corrs Music Vids: www.geocities.com/~docfester/corrsgeo.htm Docfester's Space Stuff: http://docfester2.dyndns.org:2080/spacestuff.htm From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 22 16:38:40 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:38:40 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Why is my XITAMI server so slow? References: <004601c0fabc$3ac8aec0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <3B336680.3C531832@rci.rutgers.edu> > file transfers on my LAN are where they should be now. I have NOT had my morning coffee yet, so don't trust these numbers until you run them through your abacus. I've probably dropped decimal points all over the floor. So all this may be wrong. > 340 Megabytes in 6 minutes on my 10 MegaBit router. 0.94 MegaBytes/Second, 7.5 Megabits/Second is excellent for a 10-speed connection. That shows that the LAN hardware is running a full 10-speed. I have seen a shade higher (1.1 MegaBytes/Sec) on a new 10MBPS switch-- have not seen that since everybody else on the floor got hooked up. > FTP from inside my LAN About 340 MegaBytes in 30 minutes Even allowing for FTP overhead, 0.189 MegaBytes/Sec (1.5 Megabits/Sec) inside a LAN is not great, but not shocking if the line is 10 MBPS. If both computers and the hub are supposedly working at 100 MBPS, it sucks. I just FTP-ed 8.3 MegaBytes from the (Xitami, P-133, 10MBPS) server down the hall in 11 sec. 0.75 MegaBytes/Sec, 6 Megabits/Sec. Are the PCs old and slow? Have you burdened the FTP server with aliases or many-many Vhosts it must figure out? (You don't have Napster running I hope.) Note that your cable-router does NOT have to be your internal LAN hub. I have 100 MBPS around the office on this floor, but a 10 MBPS link to a router in the basement. When I find two 100 MBPS PCs to talk to each other locally, I get over 3 MegaBytes/Sec. (I keep a 10 MBPS card in the web server partly so it can't clog the LAN.) > 340 MB in 5 hours through ISP 0.019 MegaBytes per second, 150 Kilobits/Sec, sounds like a throttled connection to me. That's 3 or 4 times better than 56K modem. That's probably what home cable providers aim for: as you say they don't want you running a high-traffic site on a home-price account, but I guess they don't want it to be "worse" than a 56K phone modem. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 22 18:10:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Andrew Tate) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:10:57 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] FTP upload problems from webcam software Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010622181057.014eaa80@pop.surrey.ac.uk> Hi, I have had troubles with Xitami 2.4d9 on Win98se and uploading via ftp from some webcam software called Video Capturix 2001 (www.capturix.com). After successfully making a local disk copy of the image (jpg or bmp) it then proceeds to upload to the specified server but in this case only about 50% of the file is ever saved on the Xitami server. No error messages appear in the Xitami ftp.log files. They just note an upload. This is very repeatable and I even upgraded the Xitami from 2.4d7 to 2.4d9 to see if it still happened. If I run Win9x FTP command then it easily uploads the same images okay. If I run other webcam software it uploads okay. If I run other ftp server on the machine (and disable Xitami) it works okay from Video Capturix 2001. So where is the problem and where do I go from here ? Is it maybe the default transfer mode bin or ascii maybe ? I am going to install WFTPD to get around the problem (which I licenced for our old web server before moving over to Xitami about 12mths ago) but I would like to have it all working. Are there any detailed debug options for the FTP upload ? Yours, Andy.. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 23 14:09:20 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (David Patte) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:09:20 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Re: Xitami digest, Vol 1 #20 - 7 msgs References: <200106221002.MAA27984@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.net> Message-ID: <3B349500.825D0EC2@relativedata.com> I run a Xitami-based LRWP app on the web that generates star-charts interactively. It has been running for about 2 years now, and I guess it has probably generated about 2 million unique star-charts, but I have never counted them. Does anyone know of a stable counter I can run on my server - that I can trigger from Javascript? I would like the javascript to cause the counter to increment, and a small graphic showing the current count to be returned so I can show the current count on my pages. A LRWP based counter would be best as my servers are already set up to handle LRWP and LRWP seems to work so fast. Thanks. D Patte -- http://www.mystarslive.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 23 19:56:33 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dr. Martin R. Hadam) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:56:33 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] SMP Problem (WAS: Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5) Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:54:48 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: I've done some deep thinking and then tested one thing I'd apparently forgotten (shame on me!): since the problem [see below] is occuring on an SMP machine, I've disabled the use of both processors using execmode and voil� - Xitami is now perfectly stable again. In case you're not familiar with execmode: this IBM utility patches an exe/dll to only make use of one processor in an smp system. So it seems that there is a serious new problem with threading in Xitami versions >2.4d6 [OS/2]. This has been tested / verified on two different machines running OS/2 Warp Server SMP at FP 42/43 resp. The test version I used with execmode was the 2.5b4 patch #2 (Bernd Hohmann). To reiterate the problem - since its description is now some time ago: Xitami starts and quits after a while without any further error message (other than the one below). Hope that this will allow you to better trace the problem. Martin >In message , "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" writes: >> I've been moving machines and today, Xitami provided some message, for >>the first time: >>2001/06/08 21:32:16: smthttp: HTTP service is now running >>Fatal error in application - aborted >>Abort at smtsock:Check-For-Expired-Requests: (Getting-Event, Empty-Event) >>Abnormal program termination > >Ah, that sort of problem. You might want to keep an eye on whether it's >always at the same point, or whether the problems shift around. If they >shift around it's most likely that something is writing to memory it >shouldn't. If it's always (or usually) one place, then possibly there's >something wrong with the way that some requests are handled by smtsock. >Unfortunately either way they're difficult to diagnose problems, since >they're not easily reproducable. Martin R. Hadam Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule D-30623 Hannover Germany Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 23 19:05:33 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael S. Kazarin) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:05:33 +0400 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support (environment var) References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> <3B30C69E.74449970@qwest.net> <00be01c0fa4c$aa1d4f80$659305c3@futeltra> <3B331F1D.FE8B76A7@qwest.net> Message-ID: <000601c0fc0f$1aa1e360$a500a8c0@Michael> on ssi_insecure: I'm running Xitami 2.5b5(gui) now on w2k and test also on w98/wME. The same result for all these - ssi_insecure applies only to #exec cmd. Also with b3 and b4. Can't say much about 2.4d7 or earlier, I was running d6 for a short time and switched to betas as soon as I've faced the virtual path limitations in perlssi. I have my cgi-bin outside the web root. | Did not set it and can still do SSI? I would think that the version your | running may have a play in that cool have you or were you able to do | this in earlier versions of Xitmai as 2.4d7 and lower I don't know | enough about W2K and its operating system I am curently running Redhat | 7.0 and windows98 98 needs this and was just going by the doc's for NT | Hey I am going to have to download Xitmai for Linux and see how it goes | Just compiled perl apache/php and mysql this week and got it running | still new to Linux and having fun..... From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 23 19:14:01 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 06:14:01 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] SMP Problem (WAS: Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5) In-Reply-To: Message from "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" of "Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:56:33 +0100." Message-ID: <200106231814.GAA05367@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message , "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" writes: > I've done some deep thinking and then tested one thing I'd >apparently forgotten (shame on me!): since the problem [see below] is >occuring on an SMP machine, I've disabled the use of both processors >using execmode and voil� - Xitami is now perfectly stable again. Ah ha. I was going to say that Xitami didn't use threads, so I didn't see what the problem could be, but IIRC there are a few minor uses of threads for various auxillary things (and EMX uses threads for a few things). (Xitami mostly works as a single process, single thread, and uses select() and SMT to figure out what to do next.) Our development version makes even less use of thread-related things, so it's possible the problem might go away with that. Unfortunately we don't curerntly have an OS/2 development system, let alone a SMP-capable OS/2 development system available. However I do have a SMP Linux development system, and I might try playing there and see if anything breaks. And it's useful to know that single-threaded Xitami is very stable. Thanks for following this up. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 23 20:53:35 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dr. Martin R. Hadam) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:53:35 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] SMP Problem (WAS: Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5) Message-ID: On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 06:14:01 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: >I was going to say that Xitami didn't use threads, so I didn't see what >the problem could be, but IIRC there are a few minor uses of threads for >various auxillary things (and EMX uses threads for a few things). >(Xitami mostly works as a single process, single thread, and uses >select() and SMT to figure out what to do next.) Well, it's listed as running on two threads here. I'm quite familiar with the situation that I'm seeing problems that no-one else is encountering... Please note that it must have been something that changed after v2.4d6. >Our development version makes even less use of thread-related things, so >it's possible the problem might go away with that. Unfortunately we >don't curerntly have an OS/2 development system, let alone a SMP-capable >OS/2 development system available. However I do have a SMP Linux >development system, and I might try playing there and see if anything >breaks. whenever you have something to test (assuming that Bernd Hohman had volunteered to do the compilation for an OS/2 version) I'll be happy to run it here. >And it's useful to know that single-threaded Xitami is very stable. It's not making it single-threaded. Execmode only restricts the software from accessing both processors and puts all the workload for that package on processor #1; effectively making a given software as if running on a uniprocessor system. From what I learned by following other SMP-related bugs I came across it could be more of a timing problem (or the like). Martin Martin R. Hadam Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule D-30623 Hannover Germany Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 23 23:44:01 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:44:01 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Re: Xitami digest, Vol 1 #20 - 7 msgs References: <200106221002.MAA27984@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.net> <3B349500.825D0EC2@relativedata.com> Message-ID: <3B351BB1.885BE2C9@rci.rutgers.edu> > Does anyone know of a stable counter I can run on my server - that I can trigger from Javascript? There are a gazillion counters that return a graphic of a number. I'm not sure what you mean "trigger from Javascript" -- you can document.write almost anything. I have one counter, a Windows NT EXE, that I trigger from static HTML. It returns a graphic of a number. I have another counter that I call from Javascript (with a NOSCRIPT option to catch lame or hobbled browsers). It is written in Perl and returns a static image (generally a 1x1 transparent GIF to satisfy the browser without showing on the page) but keeps detailed logs of hits. Another Perl script summarizes the hits, but that isn't made public. That's for pages where I want to know what kind of surfers are hitting, but don't want them to see how (un)popular the site is. Look on the top page of Music.rutgers.edu , low on the left is the static-call public graphic counter. I'm looking for where I got it from... the name in it is Henn Saar, 1995. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 24 07:18:03 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Patrick Olson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:18:03 -0600 Subject: [Xitami] Lack of SSI, shtml support (environment var) References: <007c01c0f96c$3e20e020$01000084@triggerhippie> <002001c0f971$1e0c5800$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> <002a01c0f993$498a8f20$01000084@triggerhippie> <3B30C69E.74449970@qwest.net> <00be01c0fa4c$aa1d4f80$659305c3@futeltra> <3B331F1D.FE8B76A7@qwest.net> <000601c0fc0f$1aa1e360$a500a8c0@Michael> Message-ID: <3B35861B.49B7E01A@qwest.net> ""This is how I got Perl running in Xitami it allows me to use, This SSI command which is a potential security risk for your system is only accepted if the environment variable SSI_INSECURE is set to 'yes'"" Ok so maybe I need to re-word this to make it clearer I will work on that, Although I think this may be moot as Xitami advances "Michael S. Kazarin" wrote: > > on ssi_insecure: > > I'm running Xitami 2.5b5(gui) now on w2k and test also on w98/wME. > The same result for all these - ssi_insecure applies only to #exec cmd. Also > with b3 and b4. > Can't say much about 2.4d7 or earlier, I was running d6 for a short time and > switched to betas as soon as I've faced the virtual path limitations in > perlssi. I have my cgi-bin outside the web root. > > | Did not set it and can still do SSI? I would think that the version your > | running may have a play in that cool have you or were you able to do > | this in earlier versions of Xitmai as 2.4d7 and lower I don't know > | enough about W2K and its operating system I am curently running Redhat > | 7.0 and windows98 98 needs this and was just going by the doc's for NT > | Hey I am going to have to download Xitmai for Linux and see how it goes > | Just compiled perl apache/php and mysql this week and got it running > | still new to Linux and having fun..... > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 24 07:27:45 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Patrick Olson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:27:45 -0600 Subject: [Xitami] Re: Xitami digest, Vol 1 #20 - 7 msgs References: <200106221002.MAA27984@sxpublic.nxrda.imatix.net> <3B349500.825D0EC2@relativedata.com> <3B351BB1.885BE2C9@rci.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <3B358861.85B29B74@qwest.net> http://www.muquit.com/muquit/software/Count/Count.html I haven't found on that beats this one but this is an endless stream..... Have Fun Paul Reid wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a stable counter I can run on my server - that I can trigger from Javascript? > > There are a gazillion counters that return a graphic of a number. > I'm not sure what you mean "trigger from Javascript" -- you can > document.write almost anything. > > I have one counter, a Windows NT EXE, that I trigger from static > HTML. It returns a graphic of a number. > > I have another counter that I call from Javascript (with a > NOSCRIPT option to catch lame or hobbled browsers). It is written > in Perl and returns a static image (generally a 1x1 transparent > GIF to satisfy the browser without showing on the page) but keeps > detailed logs of hits. Another Perl script summarizes the hits, > but that isn't made public. That's for pages where I want to know > what kind of surfers are hitting, but don't want them to see how > (un)popular the site is. > > Look on the top page of Music.rutgers.edu , low on the left is > the static-call public graphic counter. I'm looking for where I > got it from... the name in it is Henn Saar, 1995. > > -PRR > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 23 22:29:03 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:29:03 GMT Subject: [Xitami] SMP Problem (WAS: Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5) Message-ID: <42685@dsl.co.uk> In message <200106231814.GAA05367@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Ewen McNeill writes: > In message , "Dr. Martin R. Hadam" > writes: > > I've done some deep thinking and then tested one thing I'd > >apparently forgotten (shame on me!): since the problem [see below] is > >occuring on an SMP machine, I've disabled the use of both processors > >using execmode and voil� - Xitami is now perfectly stable again. > > Ah ha. [snip] > Our development version makes even less use of thread-related things, so > it's possible the problem might go away with that. Unfortunately we > don't curerntly have an OS/2 development system, let alone a SMP-capable > OS/2 development system available. However I do have a SMP Linux > development system, and I might try playing there and see if anything > breaks. I've not done any multi-threaded development myself either, but AIUI, the support for multi-threading in OS/2 is an order of magnitude more efficient than that in ANY dialect of Unix. If you cannot properly "corral" multiple execution threads, perhaps Xitami needs to make a conscious effort to disable threading. (Given that OS/2's multi- threading support runs to 64 processors; also given that eComStation is going to make a cheap SMP O/S available to all those with dual Pentium motherboards.) > And it's useful to know that single-threaded Xitami is very stable. Indeed. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 24 13:36:54 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:36:54 GMT Subject: [Xitami] SMP Problem (WAS: Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5) Message-ID: <42702@dsl.co.uk> In message <42685@dsl.co.uk> I wrote: > I've not done any multi-threaded development myself either, but AIUI, the > support for multi-threading in OS/2 is an order of magnitude more > efficient than that in ANY dialect of Unix. If you cannot properly > "corral" multiple execution threads, perhaps Xitami needs to make a > conscious effort to disable threading. (Given that OS/2's multi- > threading support runs to 64 processors; also given that eComStation is > going to make a cheap SMP O/S available to all those with dual Pentium > motherboards.) I failed to make it clear that multi-threading in no way requires multiple processors (as has already been mentioned elsewhere in this thread:-) AIUI, under Linux, creating a separate execution thread is almost as costly as forking another process, so programs tend to do the latter rather than the former. In contrast under OS/2, spawning a thread is a very cheap operation, so multi-threaded programs are more common. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sun Jun 24 22:43:43 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Julian Rickards) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:43:43 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Newbie can't setup virtual hosts Message-ID: <20010624175998.SM00258@default> Hi: Although I have been coding HTML for about 4 yrs now, I have yet to setup a server and am having a bit of trouble. I am running Win98SE. I downloaded 2.5b4 and installed it and ping 127.0.0.1 without any hitches: setting up virtual hosting has eluded me so far. I have several website projects underway right now and on some of their servers, I can use SSI and Perl and would like to code and test as if I were using their servers. My hard drives have many partitions and as a result, Xitami is installed on H:\Xitami and my websites are located at O:\WebSites\... for example, O:\WebSites\stc, O:\WebSites\mndm, O:\WebSites\cuac, and so on. I would like to setup Xitami so that when I use SSI on the stc site, the server will run it properly. I tried setting up virtual hosts so that one IP address may be used for multiple sites such as 127.0.0.1=stc.cfg, 127.0.0.1=mndm.cfg but I didn't know how to call up the sites using my browser. I then tried the DNS approach and set virtual hosting to www2.stc.com=stc.cfg but when I typed www2.stc.com in my browser's location bar, it dialed in and tried to find it on the Internet. The help notes mention something about setting up a DNS server but I don't know how to do that. For my purposes, which method is better and how do I set it up and how do I call up the "local" site? I read the FAQ and the help notes but I either didn't understand or I didn't see what I was looking for. Jules From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 25 03:37:34 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:37:34 EDT Subject: [Xitami] How-to? Set up multiple web sites using a single static IP address Message-ID: --part1_f4.bb8ef81.2867fdee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, This was talked about by Andrew Tate a while back, but I didn't quite follow his directions. I have a single web site running fine, but I have purchased a second (similar name) so that I could do testing. I had it directed to my DSL provider, who just pointed it to my same IP address, so now I get my same web site when I type in website-name1 or website-name2. I would like to be able to have it go to the correct website when I type in the name, and I am pretty sure that I am supposed to use the VHOST stuff, but the documentation is fairly thin on how to actually set this up. I think that Andrew Tate is running it that way now, so I gues what I would like to have is him, or someone else who is already doing this to point out what they did VHOST-wise to get it to work. Currently xitami is only aware of the one website, although I have the directory structure already set u for the second site. I am assuming that there will be a second set of *.CFG files for the second site, but I'm stuck at how I get XITAMI to point to the correct site when I enter the website name for the second (or first) website name. Hopefully I have stated the question clearly, but if I have not, please let me know and I will try to clairify the question a little better. Brian --part1_f4.bb8ef81.2867fdee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

This was talked about by Andrew Tate a while back, but I didn't quite follow
his directions. I have a single web site running fine, but I have purchased
a second (similar name) so that I could do testing. I had it directed to my
DSL provider, who just pointed it to my same IP address, so now I get my same
web site when I type in website-name1 or website-name2.

I would like to be able to have it go to the correct website when I type in
the name, and I am pretty sure that I am supposed to use the VHOST stuff, but
the documentation is fairly thin on how to actually set this up. I think
that Andrew Tate is running it that way now, so I gues what I would like to
have is him, or someone else who is already doing this to point out what they
did VHOST-wise to get it to work. Currently xitami is only aware of the one
website, although I have the directory structure already set u for the second
site.

I am assuming that there will be a second set of *.CFG files for the second
site, but I'm stuck at how I get XITAMI to point to the correct site when I
enter the website name for the second (or first) website name.

Hopefully I have stated the question clearly, but if I have not, please let
me know and I will try to clairify the question a little better.

Brian --part1_f4.bb8ef81.2867fdee_boundary-- From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 25 06:34:32 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:34:32 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Newbie can't setup virtual hosts References: <20010624175998.SM00258@default> Message-ID: <3B36CD68.1242D5C3@rci.rutgers.edu> > I then tried the DNS approach and set virtual hosting to www2.stc.com=stc.cfg but when I typed www2.stc.com in my browser's location bar, it dialed in and tried to find it on the Internet. You probably have a text file called "hosts". On Windows NT it may be at C:\WINNT\system32\hosts, though it has been seen under many names. Even Lmhosts.sam (which is really for something else, but has been known to influence IP lookup). It looks something like this: # This is a sample HOSTS file ... # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server 127.0.0.1 localhost If typing "localhost" at your browser opens your page at 127.0.0.1, you have a hosts file somewhere (and that's why it works). Anything on a line after "#" is ignored. Add some lines like 127.0.0.1 manny 127.0.0.1 moe 127.0.0.1 jack Save the file. Now, typing "manny" at your browser should open your default 127.0.0.1 page. Now go into Xitami's Vhost settings and tell it that "manny" points to a CFG file called "manny.cfg". In manny.cfg, point to "O:/WebSites/mndm" as the root of the web pages for that host. Do the same for moe and jack, except point to your other web-root folders. Now typing manny, moe, or jack at your browser should open three different web sites. You -may- still have trouble with your TCP stack not believing the hosts file and going to the modem to ask a "real DNS". MS TCP stacks can be quite dumb. When you get past that: I've had some trouble when web folders are not on the same drive as Xitami. It "should" work, and often it does, but sometimes it does not. Also: after setting or changing a Vhost, stop and restart Xitami. I'm not sure if it "should" pick up the change on the fly, but my habit is to force it to start anew. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 25 06:43:58 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:43:58 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] How-to? Set up multiple web sites using a single static IP address References: Message-ID: <3B36CF9E.78492EBC@rci.rutgers.edu> > the documentation is fairly thin on how to actually set this up. Open http://www.yourhost.com/admin It wants the name and password you picked when you installed Xitami (the name is probably "admin"). Proceed to the Admin screen. Fourth button down is "VHost Wizard". Click. "Virtual Host Wizard Create virtual host profile: ### make up a name like "test" Select IP address: ### leave blank in this case Or, enter DNS host name: ### your second domain name Web page root directory: ### where the second set of files are You can leave the rest blank. This Wizard really does set it all up for you: making CFG files that point to the right place. Stop and re-start Xitami after the change: it is sometimes loathe to take on a new VHost until you whack it. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 25 11:03:06 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:03:06 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] SMP Problem (WAS: Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5) In-Reply-To: Message from bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) of "Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:36:54 GMT." <42702@dsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <200106251003.WAA00627@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <42702@dsl.co.uk>, Brian {Hamilton Kelly} writes: >AIUI, under Linux, creating a separate execution thread is almost as >costly as forking another process, so programs tend to do the latter >rather than the former. In contrast under OS/2, spawning a thread is a >very cheap operation, so multi-threaded programs are more common. Under Linux creating a new process (with fork()) is almost as cheap as creating a new thread -- which is what you said, but the emphasis is that creating a new process is cheap. (Starting a new program in that process costs more; more like starting a new process in OS/2.) Traditionally unix does not have threads, and even those unixes that do, do not have them in a widely portable fashion. So processes tend to get used instead. However as I said, Xitami tries to buck this trend and be single threaded, single process -- which has its advantages and disadvantages. All that said, I'm puzzled what could be causing your problem on a SMP machine, which is fixed by running it on a single processor, if it isn't a threading issue. Can you tell me what build flags you used to build Xitami? And which version of the compiler and build environment? Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 25 11:42:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Julian Rickards) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:42:57 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Newbie can't setup virtual hosts In-Reply-To: <3B36CD68.1242D5C3@rci.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <200106250658217.SM00258@default> On 25 Jun 01, at 1:34, Paul Reid wrote: > You probably have a text file called "hosts". On Windows NT it > may be at C:\WINNT\system32\hosts, though it has been seen under > many names. Even Lmhosts.sam (which is really for something else, but > has been known to influence IP lookup). Many thanks Paul for your help. I will try your suggestions this evening (I live north of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, same time zone as New York city). I remember seeing reference to this hosts file in the documentation but did not know how to use it. Jules From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 25 14:46:20 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dr. Martin R. Hadam) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:46:20 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] SMP Problem (WAS: Xitami 2.4d9/Xitami 2.5b5) Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:03:06 +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote: >However as I said, Xitami tries to buck this trend and be single >threaded, single process -- which has its advantages and disadvantages. since I'm running cgi programs written in rexx, smp is nice as all spawned processes are distributed evenly on both processors. >All that said, I'm puzzled what could be causing your problem on a SMP >machine, which is fixed by running it on a single processor, if it isn't >a threading issue. not being a programmer (other than rexx ) I can't help you much. But what transpires to me as feedback on my (other) bug reports is that thread timing seems critical on smp. My last bug report just the other week was fixed within 24 hours - the programmers's immediate response was "my gut feeling is it's this one..." >Can you tell me what build flags you used to build Xitami? And which >version of the compiler and build environment? I think there is misunderstanding: I did not build Xitami myself, I only used the patched version that was made by Bernd Hohmann. HOWEVER, the same applies also EACH version after v2.4d6 that was available on the Xitami website. So it's probably independent on the tools used to build the binary. When I first noticed (without doing the execmode test), I though that it might relate to my EMX version used, which is the newer than the one recommended. My current version is: EMX : revision = 61 EMXIO : revision = 60 EMXLIBC : revision = 63 EMXLIBCM : revision = 64 EMXLIBCS : revision = 64 EMXWRAP : revision = 60 I should add, however, that this does seem unlikely in view of my later observations using execmode. Also, prior revisions (still above the recommended level) showed the same problem. Hope this will get you any further. Martin Martin R. Hadam Kinderklinik - Medizinische Hochschule D-30623 Hannover Germany Email: Hadam.Martin@MH-Hannover.de From xitami@lists.xitami.org Mon Jun 25 18:18:17 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Francis Turner) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:18:17 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Newbie can't setup virtual hosts References: <200106250658217.SM00258@default> Message-ID: <3B377259.8080001@freesbee.fr> BTW since TCP/IP stacks are supposed to check the hosts file before DNS (and in the MS 95 and 08 stacks do) then you can do some sneaky things by (for example) mapping ad.doubleclick.net to 127.0.0.1 and thus avoiding tiresome adverts I have found however that occasionally this causes problems and run very very slowly. I am not sure that this is a Xitami problem but soemthing in the path of Netscape/Win95 IP stack/Xitami means that the time taken to resolve such addresses is very long. Francis Julian Rickards wrote: > On 25 Jun 01, at 1:34, Paul Reid wrote: > >> You probably have a text file called "hosts". On Windows NT it >> may be at C:\WINNT\system32\hosts, though it has been seen under >> many names. Even Lmhosts.sam (which is really for something else, but >> has been known to influence IP lookup). > > > Many thanks Paul for your help. I will try your suggestions this > evening (I live north of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, same time zone > as New York city). I remember seeing reference to this hosts file in > the documentation but did not know how to use it. > > Jules > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > -- "Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when you don't." Pete Seeger From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 26 10:52:22 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (dimitri) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:52:22 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] Shebang #! question on win98 Message-ID: <001801c0fe25$c28f7340$01000084@triggerhippie> Hi all, I have reinstalled xitami beta for win98, and got vhosts running (and ssi - thanks all for your patience with that stupid problem I thought I had). I am testing and compiling sites using these addresses - http://anyname/ all ok so far, but - the cgi and perl scripts in my cgi-bin all have the #! usr/bin/perl path, which I wish to keep as the original host's environment, and this will not work on Xitami. I have found the following information below under the help/configuration documents, and wondered how I could allow these scripts to work if at all - would I have to use aliases or something similar? can I ultimately configure different sites to use their respective 'Shebang's' despite running on win98 se? Please help, otherwise I may have to go back to trying to use lumbering Apache again for the 4th time :o( --------------------- What's the equivalent of the shebang ("#!") syntax for Win32? Unfortunately, Win32 platforms don't provide the shebang syntax, or anything like it. Although Win32 systems themselves don't use the shebang, the Apache webserver does. If you are using the Apache webserver on your Win32 system you should put the shebang line at the top of your CGI scripts. Your shebang line should look something like: #!perl --------------------- Dimitri - dimitri@easygoin-spam.net - remove -spam to mail - True Immortality is a sharing of knowledge & Ideas, not spam - From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 26 11:45:19 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Ewen McNeill) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:45:19 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] Shebang #! question on win98 In-Reply-To: Message from "dimitri" of "Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:52:22 +0100." <001801c0fe25$c28f7340$01000084@triggerhippie> Message-ID: <200106261045.WAA16564@pagoda.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> In message <001801c0fe25$c28f7340$01000084@triggerhippie>, "dimitri" writes: >all ok so far, but - the cgi and perl scripts in my cgi-bin all have the #! >usr/bin/perl >path, which I wish to keep as the original host's environment, Xitami is even more generous than Apache: providing the #! line _ends_ with "perl", _and_ the perl binary is on the Path, Xitami will run it. (It tries the exact path first, and if that is not found, it strips off the path name, and tries that instead.) So put perl in c:\perl, and add c:\perl\bin to your path, then start Xitami. And your #!/usr/bin/perl lines should work just fine. Ewen -- Ewen McNeill, Technical Consultant, iMatix Corporation www.imatix.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 26 13:18:16 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Zdenko =?iso-8859-1?Q?Roh=E1=E8?=) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:18:16 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] Forcing https. Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010626140940.0235b080@ccsun.tuke.sk> Hello. I would apreciate a suggestion. I have running Xitami/Pro server. My website is composed from some static pages and web applications. I would like to use http protocol for static pages and secure https for applications. But I was not able to figure out how to force using https for defined directory. Thanks Zdenko Rohac. P.S. May be usefull may be not - I have security certificate only for webserver. Users do not have them. Zdenko.Rohac@tuke.sk ############## # ## Ing. Zdenko Rohac # #### OPIS UIS UVT TU KE # ###### B. Nemcovej 3 # ######## 040 01 Kosice # ########## tel. 602 51 36 # ############ kl. 51 36 ############## From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 26 17:41:26 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:41:26 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Shebang #! question on win98 References: <001801c0fe25$c28f7340$01000084@triggerhippie> Message-ID: <3B38BB36.29E496AD@rci.rutgers.edu> > #! usr/bin/perl path, ... will not work on Xitami. On Xitami in DOS/Windows? Sure it does. The average unix interpreter and webserver wants the she-bang line to be exact; they won't go searching for Perl. As Ewen says, Xitami (at least when compiled for DOS/Win) is "Generous". It knows that DOS is different, and it would be awkward to re-edit scripts every time you move from unix to DOS. If the folder that the she-bang line points to doesn't exist, it pulls a copy of PATH and starts hunting for Perl or Perl.exe. To prove that Xitami is pretty smart, I have some scripts with #! /bing/bang/boom/perl , and it works. That fails, but PATH contains d:\perl , and Xitami quickly finds it there. Probable problems: Perl Install asks if you want Perl on PATH. I hope you said Yes. Also, you often have to shut-down and re-start Windows to get the changed PATH. (You can force it manually, but Win98 needs a break anyway.) Open a Command window and type PATH. If Perl's folder is on there, re-start Xitami and it should work. If it isn't there, re-start Windows. If you didn't let Perl Install modify PATH, open AUTOEXEC.BAT in notepad and add it, restart. Putting Perl in a path with a space in it (typically under "Program Files" can give trouble. Very long (over 62 characters) paths can also be iffy. I'm not sure if this is Xitami or Perl, but IAC nobody can exactly duplicate MS's wacky handling of long spacy filenames. K.I.S.S.: Keep It Short and Sweet. There is a limit in DOS/Win9x on the size of PATH (actually the envoronment). If you've installed many programs that all think they deserve to be on PATH (most don't), you may have to trim. In the unlikely event that you have a DOS/Win system that really does have a /usr/bin directory, I thought that Xitami would fail if the folder was valid and the program name wasn't right there. Mayeb I'm wrong. If I'm right, the logical thing to do is put Perl in /usr/bin. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 26 17:51:04 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Andrew Tate) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:51:04 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] How-to? Set up multiple web sites using a single static IP address In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010626175104.00ad0c80@pop.surrey.ac.uk> Hi, Others have already replied and given some information. The way the server decides on which site to serve up is the name given in the http request. So for instance one of my servers is on ip 131.227.111.3 - you can try it and you get served up the so called 'basehost.cfg' pages. If you use www.cpe.surrey.ac.uk then it finds the string in the request and severs up the pages defined in www.cfg. However, this only works in recent browsers and may not be supported with light wap phones etc - I don't know. I have just tested this and Netscape 1.0 and 1.2 give the basehost pages for www.cpe.surrey.ac.uk but version 2.0 and onwards behave properly. I guess newer browsers pass on the request string. Not that it matters much these days but I have no access to lightwieght browsers in personal phones and organisers. The suggestion to use the web admin page is good - once you have set one up then you can tweak and copy the actual file. The main file to look at is:- defaults.cfg and the lines that matter are like [Virtual-hosts] Www.cpe.surrey.ac.uk=www.cfg Www.tates.co.uk=tates.cfg as you see if you hit my server at 131.227.111.3 with the request string of www.cpe.surrey.ac.uk then it uses the www.cfg file for details of the web pages to serve up. If however you use www.tates.co.uk then it looks in tates.cfg. You can use any file name but these seemed sensible to me to keep it logical. You can even have multiple domain names going to the same pages so you can have your own custom pages - " web site under construction " Now file tates.cfg has [Accesslog] Cycle=5 Cycle-arg=tates-acc%yy%mm%dd.log Filename=tates-access.log Format=CLF Cycle-how=0 [Alias] Xitami=c:/xitami/webpages/xitami [Errorlog] Cycle=5 Cycle-arg=tates-er%yy%mm%dd.log Filename=tates-error.log Format=CLFX Translate=1 [Rdns] Recurse-lookups=0 [Security] Filename=tates.aut Safepaths=0 [Server] Webpages=/xitami/websites/tates [Serverlog] Enabled=0 so you see I mirror the normal file but put tates in place of the standard server to create log files, access files etc etc. You also need to create tates.aut to set the authorisations. I also use \websites as the directory under which all my virtual websites live but leave the default \webpages that Xitami sets up for basehost and other bits. basehost.cfg is automatically picked up by xitami if there is no match hence it gets any other unknown dns name that points to the ip address or a pure ip address as in my example above. On my server I serve up a page all about the wonders of Xitami !! The sample web pages that come with the distribution. I have typed this quickly and hope it helps - they may be a few mistakes I am no expert. I believe there is another way of multiple hosting where you assign multiple ip addresses to the same machine and xitami serves up the pages dependant on this but I have never done this and it does not seem to fit so well with the sort of re-direction available from isp services who will set up a redirection page for you. It also needs an operating system able to assign multiple ips to one ethernet card or you need multiple ethernet cards... not so easy. Yours, Andy Tate. At 22:37 24/06/2001 EDT, you wrote: > Hi, > >This was talked about by Andrew Tate a while back, but I didn't quite follow > I have a single web site running fine, but I have purchased > I had it directed to my >DSL provider, who just pointed it to my same IP address, so now I get my same > > >I would like to be able to have it go to the correct website when I type in >the name, and I am pretty sure that I am supposed to use the VHOST stuff, but > I think >that Andrew Tate is running it that way now, so I gues what I would like to >have is him, or someone else who is already doing this to point out what they > Currently xitami is only aware of the one >website, although I have the directory structure already set u for the second > > >I am assuming that there will be a second set of *.CFG files for the second >site, but I'm stuck at how I get XITAMI to point to the correct site when I >enter the website name for the second (or first) website name. > >Hopefully I have stated the question clearly, but if I have not, please let >me know and I will try to clairify the question a little better. > >Brian From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 26 19:02:24 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:02:24 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] How-to? Set up multiple web sites using a single static IP address References: <3.0.6.32.20010626175104.00ad0c80@pop.surrey.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3B38CE30.8CA30D8E@rci.rutgers.edu> > 131.227.111.3 - ... you get served ...'basehost.cfg' pages. If you use www.cpe.surrey.ac.uk then it finds the string in the request and serves up the pages defined in www.cfg. > However, this only works in recent browsers ...I have just tested this and Netscape 1.0 and 1.2 give the basehost pages for www.cpe.surrey.ac.uk but version 2.0 and onwards behave properly. I guess newer browsers pass on the request string. NetScape 2+ and IE 3+ send the URL of the page they expect to get. NS1 and IE2 don't. Basically, any browser made in the last 6 or 7 years will handle name-based VHosting. I'm tracking browser versions on a general-interest page. I don't track the oldest versions, but in the last 4,580 hits only 5 came from IE3, 0 from NS2, 100 from NS3. I suspect that NS1 and IE1-2 are less than NS2 and IE3, or well under 0.1%. Since few Win31 machines are alive, and Win95 came with IE3, the only large clump of IE2 users will be Win NT4 machines that have avoided any update of IE. (NT4 shipped with IE2, though many OEM installations and all MS Office installations put something newer on.) Upgrades of NS and IE are free. Those few people still using NS1 and IE2 are doing it because they want to. They must know that the Web expects something more today; many sites fall apart in NS1/IE2 (and yet some quite fancy sites stand up). If they don't get the site they expect, that's really their choice. As for palm wappers- I never saw one, in person or as a strange hit on my site. And I know they are minimal machines. But named VHost just means that they put the URL in the HTTP request header. They already have the URL in their tiny mind, so it seems trivial to add it to the request. And so many sites are really VHosted that I'd think they'd be useless for general surfing unless they supported it. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 26 21:43:46 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Johnson, Nathan J) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:43:46 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Re: Running Xitami ouside of Systray in windows Message-ID: <9EFD49E2FB59D411AABA0008C7E675C002DCDBE6@emss04m10.ems.lmco.com> Hello! I'm not really a windows user, so please bear with me.... I would like to know if it is possible to run Xitami for windows outside of the Systray. The reason being that I am writing a Java that "controls" all the processes in a product of ours (xitami being one of them), and for whatever reason my Java code can't kill processes that are running in the Systray (It can start them though). I could use the console version of xitami I know, that is what I am going to work on right now, I was just wondering if there is a quick and easy way to force xitami outside of the systray. ~Nate Nathan J. Johnson Lockheed Martin NE&SS - Undersea Systems Associate Software Engineer nathan.j.johnson@lmco.com 315-456-1737 From xitami@lists.xitami.org Tue Jun 26 22:56:22 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:56:22 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Re: Running Xitami ouside of Systray in windows References: <9EFD49E2FB59D411AABA0008C7E675C002DCDBE6@emss04m10.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: <3B390506.B7535AA7@rci.rutgers.edu> I assume you are using the NT Service version. The Service version is appropriate if you want Windows to auto-start the service even before any user logs-on. My web server sits at the log-in prompt for months on end, because there isn't any reason to log-on at the terminal since Xitami starts before that as a Service. If you or some process you wrote wants to be able to start and stop Xitami at will, I'd think the Console version is more appropriate. If Java can call an arbitrary DOS command, I think there is a command-line option to kill the Service. But a stop-start mode is more what the Console version is made for. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 27 08:40:49 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Espen Brynildsen) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:40:49 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami on BeOS Message-ID: Has someone been able to install/run the release on either PE 5.0.3 or Professional Edition 5.0.3 ??? I'm not able to run the binary/executable... Does it only run on r4.5? Thx for any insight Espen From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 27 09:02:48 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael S. Kazarin) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:02:48 +0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami on BeOS References: Message-ID: <002701c0fedf$8f77a940$659305c3@futeltra> Where can one get a compiled version of Xitami for BeOS? | Has someone been able to install/run the release on either PE 5.0.3 or | Professional Edition 5.0.3 ??? | | I'm not able to run the binary/executable... | | Does it only run on r4.5? From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 27 09:41:14 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Espen Brynildsen) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:41:14 +0200 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami on BeOS Message-ID: >Where can one get a compiled version of Xitami for BeOS? http://www.bebits.com/app/2317 Espen :) From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 27 10:24:22 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael S. Kazarin) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:24:22 +0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami on BeOS References: Message-ID: <004101c0feea$f50df970$659305c3@futeltra> thanks for info. i'll try to install it on my home pc. i don't have BeOS here. i will post whether the attempt will be successful or not | >Where can one get a compiled version of Xitami for BeOS? | | http://www.bebits.com/app/2317 | From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 27 22:32:09 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Jerry Richer) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:32:09 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] What's different about the XITAMI FTP server that makes it work with the Windows 98 FTP client? Message-ID: <00f401c0ff53$5e9d27e0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> I have two friends who run FTP sites but they don't use XITAMI. When I use the Windows 98 based FTP client to look at their sites I can't see other disk drives. These people have several hard drives full of information but I can only see whichever drive I end up on when I log in. In order to see the other hard drives on their sites I have to use one of the other popular FTP clients such as Cute or WSFTP. I'm running XITAMI and I can see my one other hard drive fine with the Windows 98 based FTP client. Is there something different about XITAMI or is it the way they have their sites set up? I much prefer the Windows 98 FTP client when it works. If I get my homework done maybe I can convince them as to why they should switch to XITAMI. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 27 19:16:51 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Jerry Richer) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:16:51 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Where do I look to see what FTP and HTTP activity I've been having? References: <002701c0fedf$8f77a940$659305c3@futeltra> Message-ID: <00f001c0ff53$5c6ba1e0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> I'm sure there's a way to look at who's been accessing my XITAMI FTP and HTTP servers but I can't figure it out. Where do I look. Is this information in a text file? I think I looked through all the log files but didn't see anything of interest. Thanks and take care. Jerry From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 27 23:35:21 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:35:21 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Where do I look to see what FTP and HTTP activity I've been having? In-Reply-To: <00f001c0ff53$5c6ba1e0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> References: <002701c0fedf$8f77a940$659305c3@futeltra> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010627182812.00ab0080@pop.prism.gatech.edu> At 02:16 PM 6/27/2001 -0400, you wrote: > I'm sure there's a way to look at who's been accessing my XITAMI FTP >and HTTP servers but I can't figure it out. Where do I look. Is this >information in a text file? I think I looked through all the log files but >didn't see anything of interest. > Thanks and take care. Take a look at access.log, in the logs subdirectory of wherever you installed Xitami. You might not be able to open it while Xitami is running, since it opens and locks that file when it starts up (at least for me; WinME, Xitami 2.4d9, YMMV). If you (or anyone else) is interested, I've written a short perl script that goes through and analyzes this file. http://xbones.resnet.gatech.edu/cgi-bin/logview.pl if you want to try it; email me if you want the source. -Dan Orzechowski xbonesgt@cc.gatech.edu http://xbones.resnet.gatech.edu K is for KATE, struck through with an axe. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Wed Jun 27 23:42:19 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org ([strfle] clan) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:42:19 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] How can I bypass flock References: <002701c0fedf$8f77a940$659305c3@futeltra> <5.1.0.14.0.20010627182812.00ab0080@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <002901c0ff5a$6c7c5140$0401a8c0@phnx1.az.home.com> I have windows me with xitami, and I installed the perl module. I have problems with flock on perl scripts, sometimes they dont work. Is there anyway I can install the nt perl module on windows me? How can i correct this? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 28 05:55:52 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Mike Hodgson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:55:52 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] How can I bypass flock References: <002701c0fedf$8f77a940$659305c3@futeltra> <5.1.0.14.0.20010627182812.00ab0080@pop.prism.gatech.edu> <002901c0ff5a$6c7c5140$0401a8c0@phnx1.az.home.com> Message-ID: <3B3AB8D8.4CE4AFE5@kos.net> "[strfle] clan" wrote: > > I have windows me with xitami, and I installed the perl module. I have > problems with flock on perl scripts, sometimes they dont work. Is there > anyway I can install the nt perl module on windows me? How can i correct > this? As far as I know flock() doesn't work on the Windows platform. That is the case with atleast the ActiveState distribution of Perl. You might want to try installing the LockFile::Simple package from CPAN, it may work. Mike From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 28 10:12:58 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Michael S. Kazarin) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:12:58 +0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami on BeOS References: <002701c0fedf$8f77a940$659305c3@futeltra> Message-ID: <006801c0ffb2$87884450$659305c3@futeltra> Hi Espen ! I downloaded xitami2.5b4 for beos from bebits and installed it. The result - generally I can say that it works. I can suppose what confused you. This is not a gui app, it's a console version. If you accepted default location for installation then you have to: start the Terminal cd /boot/apps/Xitami (mind case sensitivity) xitami -s (to run Xitami in background or) xitami -S (to run in foreground, default) Use xitami -h for options. Anyway I encountered some problems. I belive all files included in the package are the same as for windows distributions which I use except the binary itself. Thus I guess it wasn't properly compiled, something wrong with paths. For example the images located in ./webpages/images do not load if I type http://localhost/images/image_1.gif, but they do if I type http://localhost//images/image_1.gif. On the other hand ./webpages/xitami/images works fine and http://localhost/xitami/images/image_1.gif displays as desired. Probably for the same reason an image map on the front page doesn't work. When I click for testcgi.exe url on the map, it resolves as http:/cgi-bin/testcgi.exe CGI themselves work fine, as well as SSI. Perhaps, some tweaking can be done with configs. Didn't have time to try it yesterday. All I wanna say that it didn't install well from scratch as my windows version did. Another serious issue for me is that when Xitami is started, cpu load for my amd duron 750 goes up to 100% and stays there until I stop the server. I have no idea what's going wrong. Never experienced that with any other BeOS app. I hope this info will be of value to you and I would like to hear your comments on whether you'll be able to get it going. Mike. | Has someone been able to install/run the release on either PE 5.0.3 or | Professional Edition 5.0.3 ??? | | I'm not able to run the binary/executable... | | Does it only run on r4.5? From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 28 11:24:20 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Andrew Tate) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:24:20 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] What's different about the XITAMI FTP server that makes it work with the Windows 98 FTP client? In-Reply-To: <00f401c0ff53$5e9d27e0$6401a8c0@bur.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010628112420.008be100@pop.surrey.ac.uk> There does appear to be differences - my email of 22 June mentions problems I have had with the Xitami FTP server and webcam uploads from Capturix software that works with other ftp servers but not with Xitami. No one has replied to that message but I am interested in knowing of other ftp inconsistancies. Re browsing other disks I have noticed a couple of things. Sometimes ftp servers can 'restrict to home directory' and stop browsing outside of the home directory tree defined for the user. Other times you may not see the other disks (as ftp has roots in unix) so is not used to the disk drive letter idea but if you put 'cd d:/' it may take it and act correctly. Andy.. At 17:32 27/06/2001 -0400, you wrote: > I have two friends who run FTP sites but they don't use XITAMI. When I >use the Windows 98 based FTP client to look at their sites I can't see other >disk drives. These people have several hard drives full of information but >I can only see whichever drive I end up on when I log in. In order to see >the other hard drives on their sites I have to use one of the other popular >FTP clients such as Cute or WSFTP. I'm running XITAMI and I can see my one >other hard drive fine with the Windows 98 based FTP client. Is there >something different about XITAMI or is it the way they have their sites set >up? I much prefer the Windows 98 FTP client when it works. If I get my >homework done maybe I can convince them as to why they should switch to >XITAMI. > > > >-- >Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support >To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 28 17:11:06 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:11:06 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Xitami on BeOS References: <002701c0fedf$8f77a940$659305c3@futeltra> <006801c0ffb2$87884450$659305c3@futeltra> Message-ID: <3B3B571A.DD1CB911@rci.rutgers.edu> > [in BeOS] cpu load ... goes up to 100% and stays there Does it yield? That is, when you do other work on the machine, does it feel slow? I don't know BeOS, but in Windows many DOS apps will send the CPU Use meter to the max yet the machine feels only 5%-10% slow in other applications. In Windows, a proper app is supposed to give up its time slice if it has nothing to do. DOS apps assume they own the whole machine. Many of them, when "doing nothing" sit in a tight loop asking "Did user press a key yet?", asking that question 750,000,000 times a second on modern CPUs. Windows can't be sure if the DOS app's frenzy is doing something useful or not. So if no other app is demanding cycles, the DOS app gets most of the CPU's time. If another app does have something to do, it gets the time it needs, and the DOS app gets just a few cycles on every loop of the Windows task-switcher. Sometimes the DOS app appears to Windows to be greedy; I have a DOS modem program that -will- slow the rest of Windows if it has trouble opening the modem (because Windows has grabbed the modem for DUN). BTW, there are some tricks for time-sharing background programs in Windows (NT). A main one is to "Stall" a DOS app when it is in the background, so it gets no time when you are not using it. Good for a text editor, bad for a web server. There are other priority options, though I must note that some cause more trouble than they are worth. (Don't put a DOS app in RealTime priority or you'll never get control back!) Clearly the BeOS compile of Xitami is not supporting whatever load-sharing that BeOS has. Of course it is interesting that Xitami works at all on a platform that isn't really a classic unix and isn't DOS/Win or OS/2, the platforms that got specific support. There is of course a native web server in BeOS. And I'd guess that the total BeOS webserver market is too small for anybody to spend a lot of programming time on. But since Xitami itself runs on one big loop, anybody who really knows BeOS's load-share technique (or who can find similar code in some other BeOS application) could add a "Nothing to do right now" flag to release the current time-slice back to BeOS. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Thu Jun 28 21:57:00 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:57:00 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] SSI Help desperately needed Message-ID: <25309464.6CF8707E.0EEEC7A4@cs.com> I've posted this problem twice in the past and never got anywhere with it, and now I've reached the point where I really, REALLY need to get SSI working. I'm running Xitami 2.5b4 on Win95 on a Dell Latitude. The SSI demo (testssi.ssi) does NOT work, neither do my own SSI pages. Perl and all CGI scripts work fine. I've tried all suggestions from Ewen and others in the past, it just won't work! Can someone please help?!? Thanks... From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 29 04:13:50 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dragonballz Insane) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] How can I bypass flock In-Reply-To: <002901c0ff5a$6c7c5140$0401a8c0@phnx1.az.home.com> Message-ID: <20010629031350.78808.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> I also run Xitami on Windows Me and I have active perl and have had no problems for quite a while. Try using that instead. --- "[strfle] clan" wrote: > I have windows me with xitami, and I installed the > perl module. I have > problems with flock on perl scripts, sometimes they > dont work. Is there > anyway I can install the nt perl module on windows > me? How can i correct > this? > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 29 04:25:02 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (garry) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:25:02 +1200 Subject: [Xitami] SSI Help desperately needed References: <25309464.6CF8707E.0EEEC7A4@cs.com> Message-ID: <000d01c1004b$1570dd70$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> Hi i recently found i had this problem too ssi worked fine till i upgraded to 2.5b4 and i found myself with someone wanting to use ssi last week and not only was it not working but it was looking for xixssi on d drive while xitami resides on c drive and then it was showing an error and closing . the fix was to upgrade to 2.5b5 works just fine now. one thing though i was testing on the users page and found it coded for *nix they had used backticks in the ssi line while windows seems to need speech marks eg instead of Garry Stanley Cable.net.nz Beta Data Solutions Ltd. From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 29 05:47:11 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Thomas J. Hruska) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:47:11 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] Screen Resolution... In-Reply-To: <25309464.6CF8707E.0EEEC7A4@cs.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010628234711.007a45c0@pop.crosswinds.net> As I was playing around with IE, I noticed that the headers contain some extremely useful data that my CGI-based applications could use. I have this interesting idea that Xitami could do something horribly non-standard and pass all of the headers onto my CGI (filter) through another environment variable. Here is what I propose: 1) Create a configuration file option to turn on/off the COMPLETE_HEADERS environment variable. 2) During runtime, if the environment variable option is on, then the COMPLETE_HEADERS variable is created. Xitami stores the headers into the environment variable as a zero-terminated URL encoded string. Of particular interest to me (and probably a few others) are the headers: UA-pixels: 1152x864 UA-color: color16 UA-OS: Windows NT UA-CPU: x86 Now, I could use JavaScript to do what I want on the client end of things, but it would be nice to just grab and parse the headers for the information I need rather than play with cookies (we all know how much we love cookies :)) or other similar mechanism (cookies are easier). The only problem with both methods is that the user might turn the headers off. It doesn't matter, except that the server-side method is a lot easier to code than the cookie or JavaScript methods. Just an idea... Thomas J. Hruska -- shinelight@crosswinds.net Shining Light Productions -- "Meeting the needs of fellow programmers" http://www.shininglightpro.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 29 07:43:41 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dragonballz Insane) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xitami] why doesn't it work? In-Reply-To: <000d01c1004b$1570dd70$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> Message-ID: <20010629064341.43347.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> I just bought a server and I networked them together with two ethernet cards in the server so the other computer can use the internet. I used the same IP address only when people try to connect they don't seem able to because I think it is because that it runs two different IP's. Do you have any idea how to help? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 29 08:55:36 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:55:36 GMT Subject: [Xitami] Screen Resolution... Message-ID: <42868@dsl.co.uk> In message <3.0.6.32.20010628234711.007a45c0@pop.crosswinds.net> "Thomas J. Hruska" writes: > As I was playing around with IE, I noticed that the headers contain some > extremely useful data that my CGI-based applications could use. I have > this interesting idea that Xitami could do something horribly non-standard > and pass all of the headers onto my CGI (filter) through another > environment variable. Here is what I propose: > > 1) Create a configuration file option to turn on/off the COMPLETE_HEADERS > environment variable. > 2) During runtime, if the environment variable option is on, then the > COMPLETE_HEADERS variable is created. Xitami stores the headers into the > environment variable as a zero-terminated URL encoded string. > > Of particular interest to me (and probably a few others) are the headers: > > UA-pixels: 1152x864 > UA-color: color16 > UA-OS: Windows NT > UA-CPU: x86 Try reading the official definition of HTTP v1.1 (in RFC 2068 et seq) and you'll discover that those "headers" are completely non-standard and will be found only on requests coming from some of the computers that have been blessed with Mr Gates's crap. It's just another example of Redmond "inventing" an "extension" to a standard in order to suborn the world into using Windoze, when those standards were designed for interoperability between ANY computer systems. Such extensions are best ignored. Besides, the principle of good web page design dictate that the page should present itself in a manner that clearly communicates its information content to the reader, independently of any paramters such as those above. Remember "This page is optimized for ANY browser" is the best precept. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 29 15:33:32 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Thomas J. Hruska) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:33:32 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] why doesn't it work? In-Reply-To: <20010629064341.43347.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <000d01c1004b$1570dd70$123d60cb@cable.net.nz> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010629093332.007c0420@pop.crosswinds.net> At 11:43 PM 6/28/01 -0700, you wrote: >I just bought a server and I networked them together What is the "them" you are referring to? If you bought a server, there is only a single node on the network. If you are attempting to interface the server with a current lan to provide a single connection to get to the internet, you need to set up gateway information on the machines on the lan to point to the right place. >with two ethernet cards in the server so the other >computer can use the internet. I used the same IP >address only when people try to connect they don't >seem able to because I think it is because that it >runs two different IP's. Do you have any idea how to help? If you are running Xitami on the server and the server has two network cards (what I suspect you are doing), the server's network cards need to have their own individual IP addresses or the requests coming in will get messed up. To load-balance the requests, I suggest purchasing a load-balancing switch rather than messing with a software-based solution (really messy if you ask me). That way, if you get another server later, you can offload some of the load onto the newer server. Also, the IP addresses of the network cards have to be real IP addresses on the internet (or the firewall has to forward all connections on port 80 to the firewall's IP to the web server). If you want clients on the lan to access the internet through the server (via a proxy), you have to assign one network card with a LAN IP (10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x number, depending on which you use) and the other with a valid internet address. You can't just assign the internet address whatever you feel like using unless you have a static IP (in which case you have to use that IP and nothing else). Without more information on what exactly you are trying to accomplish with the server and how Xitami fits into this, this list can't really help you very much. Thomas J. Hruska -- shinelight@crosswinds.net Shining Light Productions -- "Meeting the needs of fellow programmers" http://www.shininglightpro.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 29 16:19:00 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (dimitri_the_bubble) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:19:00 +0100 Subject: [Xitami] why doesn't it work? References: <20010629064341.43347.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Also what I had trouble with was the Hosts and Hosts.sam and LMHosts.sam files under c:\windows under win98se had to put in the ip addresses of the 3 pc's on the network into each of them. (Norton antivirus has entered in some settings into one of the 'Hosts' files on my pc). You may want to have a look at this article as well. http://www.sharewire.com/nav/Articles/running_your_own_server.shtml Dimitri - dimitri@easygoin-spam.net - remove -spam to mail - True Immortality is a sharing of knowledge & Ideas, not spam - -------------- Subject: [Xitami] why doesn't it work? I just bought a server and I networked them together with two ethernet cards in the server so the other computer can use the internet. I used the same IP address only when people try to connect they don't seem able to because I think it is because that it runs two different IP's. Do you have any idea how to help? From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 30 04:58:54 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dennis G. Wicks) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:58:54 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] Refresh/Reload doesn't work In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010629093332.007c0420@pop.crosswinds.net> References: <20010629064341.43347.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B3D082E.30131.7D1FBF6@localhost> Greetings; Running V2.5b5 on NT 4.0 my browsers don't reload the page when it has changed. I use IE 5.5 and Netscape 4.7. I have to force the refresh or reload before I can see the changed page. (This is ctl- refresh in IE or shift-reload in Netscape.) I know only that this has something to do with the file date. Is Xitami not sending the date to the browser? I can see that the date has changed in NT explorer. Regards, Dennis From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 30 05:19:31 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:19:31 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Refresh/Reload doesn't work References: <20010629064341.43347.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> <3B3D082E.30131.7D1FBF6@localhost> Message-ID: <3B3D5353.C8575D4E@rci.rutgers.edu> > my browsers don't reload the page Typically, browsers don't even check every time, unless you change the defaults (which are designed for speed, not up-to-dateness). In NetScape 4.5+: Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Cache, "Document in cache is compared to document on network..." - EVERY time (the "once per session" and "never" options are no good for web authors). -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 30 06:06:29 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Dennis G. Wicks) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:06:29 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] Refresh/Reload doesn't work In-Reply-To: <3B3D5353.C8575D4E@rci.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <3B3D1805.4531.80FDE96@localhost> Paul, Thanks for that tip, but I set those options long ago! And I just checked them to make sure something didn't get reset to "factory defaults" (aka brain-dead defaults!) They do sort of defeat the whole purpose of the web. ie up-to-date information, let alone any sort of web authoring, as you mentioned! Dennis On 30 Jun 2001, at 0:19, Paul Reid wrote: From: Paul Reid To: xitami@lists.xitami.org Subject: Re: [Xitami] Refresh/Reload doesn't work Send reply to: xitami@lists.xitami.org

Date sent: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:19:31 -0400 > > my browsers don't reload the page > > Typically, browsers don't even check every time, unless you > change the defaults (which are designed for speed, not > up-to-dateness). > > In NetScape 4.5+: > > Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Cache, > "Document in cache is compared to document on network..." > - EVERY time > (the "once per session" and "never" options are no good for > web authors). > > -PRR > > -- > Xitami Users Mailing List -- For Xitami support > To unsubscribe: http://lists.xitami.org/mailman/listinfo/xitami > From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 30 05:31:13 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Thomas J. Hruska) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:31:13 -0500 Subject: [Xitami] Refresh/Reload doesn't work In-Reply-To: <3B3D082E.30131.7D1FBF6@localhost> References: <3.0.6.32.20010629093332.007c0420@pop.crosswinds.net> <20010629064341.43347.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010629233113.007bc390@pop.crosswinds.net> At 10:58 PM 6/29/01 -0500, you wrote: >Greetings; > >Running V2.5b5 on NT 4.0 my browsers don't reload the page when >it has changed. I use IE 5.5 and Netscape 4.7. I have to force the >refresh or reload before I can see the changed page. (This is ctl- >refresh in IE or shift-reload in Netscape.) > >I know only that this has something to do with the file date. Is Xitami >not sending the date to the browser? I can see that the date has >changed in NT explorer. I was having problems with both browsers as well until I added some meta tags: In theory this tells the browser to not cache anything and that the document expires immediately. I haven't had problems with updating normal content, but Netscape won't refresh images when they change if they are available in the cache. Now, there would be a useful utility: something that resides in the system tray and when you right-click, you can flush the memory and disk caches of IE and Netscape. I'll bet something like that exists...hmm...guess not (searched both ZDnet.com and download.com). Anyone up to the task? Disk caches are fairly easy, memory caches are another story. Thomas J. Hruska -- shinelight@crosswinds.net Shining Light Productions -- "Meeting the needs of fellow programmers" http://www.shininglightpro.com/ From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 30 06:32:39 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Paul Reid) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 01:32:39 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Refresh/Reload doesn't work References: <3.0.6.32.20010629093332.007c0420@pop.crosswinds.net> <20010629064341.43347.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> <3.0.6.32.20010629233113.007bc390@pop.crosswinds.net> Message-ID: <3B3D6477.1ED90561@rci.rutgers.edu> > Netscape won't refresh images when they change if they are available in the cache. No, though there is a trick. If the Height= or Width= has changed, NetScape thinks it is a new image. As a web-wacker you can change Height=200 to Height=201, and see the change. But you better change it back. The other way is to right-click on the stale image, "Open in new window", you'll get the stale image but shift-reload forces that image to get fresh (without having to reload -all- the images on the page). Then Back gets you the full page with the fresh image. Dennis > I set those options long ago! OK, I believe you. While I rarely have problems seeing my changes, I too have had to force it sometimes. Are there any proxy servers or caches along the way? AOL in particular caches pages their customers have requested, in case another AOL user asks for the same page soon after. Thomas's meta-tags *may* force AOL's caches to read a new copy every time (though I thought AOL needed no-cache in the HTTP header, not the HTML file). Other ISPs also cache to reduce load; my school had to cache for a few months while one of the two outside lines was down for repair and traffic on the other line was clogged. Caching a few hundred of the student's favorite external sites really took the edge off the overload. -PRR From xitami@lists.xitami.org Sat Jun 30 19:31:57 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (xitami@lists.xitami.org) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:31:57 -0700 Subject: [Xitami] CGI Perl search engine In-Reply-To: <993878169@coconutcomm.com> Message-ID: <993925917@coconutcomm.com> Anyone know of any good perl script search engines that do not require mySQL? (for my Xitami site running http://www.tahoecabinrentals.com) If you have an one running on your site, if you could provide the url so I can see it and the script, and provide the script name and where you d/l'd it from. Thanks all! -J From xitami@lists.xitami.org Fri Jun 29 16:26:55 2001 From: xitami@lists.xitami.org (Francis Turner) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:26:55 -0400 Subject: [Xitami] Screen Resolution... References: <3.0.6.32.20010628234711.007a45c0@pop.crosswinds.net> Message-ID: <3B3C9E3F.2030909@freesbee.fr> Comment below Thomas J. Hruska wrote: > As I was playing around with IE, I noticed that the headers contain some > extremely useful data that my CGI-based applications could use. I have > this interesting idea that Xitami could do something horribly non-standard > and pass all of the headers onto my CGI (filter) through another > environment variable. Here is what I propose: > > 1) Create a configuration file option to turn on/off the COMPLETE_HEADERS > environment variable. > 2) During runtime, if the environment variable option is on, then the > COMPLETE_HEADERS variable is created. Xitami stores the headers into the > environment variable as a zero-terminated URL encoded string. > > Of particular interest to me (and probably a few others) are the headers: > > UA-pixels: 1152x864 > UA-color: color16 > UA-OS: Windows NT > UA-CPU: x86 > > Now, I could use JavaScript to do what I want on the client end of things, > but it would be nice to just grab and parse the headers for the information Since this is coming from a form - create a hidden field which is populated by Javascript. The JS can query the browser for those fields. This works with all browsers and is trivial to implement and you don't need any cookies. For example -- "Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when you don't." Pete Seeger